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[Wicked 702]

It's pretty much a deal breaker for me unfortunately. I want more diversity in my RPGs, not less.

[phaonica]

Morwen Eledhwen wrote...

 It's also rather disturbing to me that Bioware would disregard one of the key elements that makes this game stand out from all those other set-character games --the variety and depth of the different cultures (and the attachments we form to the ones we adopt), the amazingly diverse range of experiences that are possible over any number of replays-- and just throw it away.

My thoughts exactly. The problem with the game being too "unique", though is that it becomes a "niche" game, and niche games tend to not make as much money as those that appeal to a wider audience.  

I hope they have something else planned for DA2 that will make up for this, 

Currently, it seems like they're relying on their revamped combat system to draw in new players, and their epic storytelling to keep their current players. I've played plenty of good, linear, single player RPGs, and the Elder Scrolls series is a pretty good single player, sandbox-style RPG. I can certainly fathom that DA2 could be like that. The origins certainly added replayability to the game, but replayability isn't a source of income. You buy the game once, you get one story. The end.

[phaonica]

I can't fathom a deal breaker for me, at this point. I'll be sad to see features that I like go away, but I still trust Bioware to come through with a good story. If nothing else, I'll play through DA2 once and then move on to another game. Really, that's what I was doing before Origins came along.

[errant_knight]

dream_operator23 wrote...

And seriously, how many games have you played if you restrict yourself so much?

LOL! Not many.  That was why I was so pleasantly surprised by DA.  I had finally found one of the few games that got it.  Too bad it was dropped after the first game. 

Exactly. There was a reason that Origins was my favorite game, ever, that I've never played Mass Effect, and that I wasn't interested in KOTOR2. I tended to open play games like Elder Scrolls or Fallout. Thing is, Origins has taken the shine off those for me. The play feels darn lonely without companions.

[adneate]

dream_operator23 wrote...

But I have trouble seeing how customization makes the game appeal LESS to gamers. I mean look at one of the best selling games of all time, The Sims series in which the player can customize everything, and you can see that there a lot of people out there that love customization. Of course I wouldn't expect that amount of customization from a story-driven game like DA, but to give us less than we got in the first game? I don't see how that would make the game more popular.

The problem is you're think like a gamer not a CEO with a pile of papers from focus groups. Look at popular music today, talent and quality are meaningless. What sells is mediocrity, blandness, something that's been watered down to appeal a little bit to lots of people but cater to nobody in particular. The general public will buy it because you tell them to and because others tell them it's popular. It's as simple as that.

[errant_knight]

phaonica wrote...

I can't fathom a deal breaker for me, at this point. I'll be sad to see features that I like go away, but I still trust Bioware to come through with a good story. If nothing else, I'll play through DA2 once and then move on to another game. Really, that's what I was doing before Origins came along.

I won't know until it's released, and I've read the fan reactions. I'm not going on trust like I did with Awakening. And if this is more of an action game than an RPG, or minimizes interactions.... I might not be interested.

[Costin_Razvan]

phaonica wrote...

I can't fathom a deal breaker for me, at this point. I'll be sad to see features that I like go away, but I still trust Bioware to come through with a good story. If nothing else, I'll play through DA2 once and then move on to another game. Really, that's what I was doing before Origins came along.

Honestly. I am waiting for Witcher 2 and Starcraft 2 to come out. I will play Mass Effect 3 and SWTOR, but I probably won't play Dragon Age 2. it has nothing to do with the changes ( which I like ) but I am getting bloody tired of the model Bioware has used OVER AND OVER AND OVER again for RPGs, even in Mass Effect 1 and 2. ( though they have a saving grace those two ).

The thing I really like about the Witcher is how your choices take at least a few hours to affect the game, while with Bioware the change is instant. ( though this does not apply to Mass Effect, since many choices there only show the outcome in the next game, and it's the reason I like the series so much ).

[phaonica]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Honestly. I am waiting for Witcher 2 and Starcraft 2 to come out. I will play Mass Effect 3 and SWTOR, but I probably won't play Dragon Age 2. it has nothing to do with the changes ( which I like ) but I am getting bloody tired of the model Bioware has used OVER AND OVER AND OVER again for RPGs, even in Mass Effect 1 and 2. ( though they have a saving grace those two ).

The thing I really like about the Witcher is how your choices take at least a few hours to affect the game, while with Bioware the change is instant. ( though this does not apply to Mass Effect, since many choices there only show the outcome in the next game, and it's the reason I like the series so much ).

I played a Witcher demo and was so put off by the battle animations that I could not play it (and I usually don't abandon games over graphics alone, so I don't know what happened). At any rate, since seeing trailers for Witcher 2 (which looks really good), I am probably going to give the Witcher series another chance. And eventually I'll get around to playing Mass Effect.

[SOLID_EVEREST]

Damn, that sucks. I just heard this, and I was kind of taken back. I would've expected no character transport, but playing as a human really took me by surprise. The move seems more like they want the game to correlate with Mass Effect, maybe. Since you can only play as Shepard, I think DA: 2 will be the exact same with some guy named Hawk. I wonder if everything our individual characters did in DA: O will at least affect DA: 2... I heard them say it was not all for nothing, but I can see them coming up with their own cannon story, and saying that maybe the big things we did was for nothing (stopping the blight of course lol).

[Costin_Razvan]

I played a Witcher demo and was so put off by the battle animations that I could not play it (and I usually don't abandon games over graphics alone,

Those battle animations in the Witcher show how sword fighting is actually in reality. ( as close as it can get in a game anyway )

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 09 juillet 2010 - 01:25 .

[Malkavianqueen]

I was! I'm in the minority and almost never played as a human! I covet my Dwarves and Elves. *mopes*



It's just really depressing! It MIGHT not be a deal breaker. If they get rid of romances...Then I probably won't buy it. How would this be any different than other random generic RPGs then? Poor human commoner rises to fame and glory. Yaaay! Awakening was so lonely!



I'm just glad you get to be female. I was worried about that, due to their nice marketing of only the male! T__T

[phaonica]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I played a Witcher demo and was so put off by the battle animations that I could not play it (and I usually don't abandon games over graphics alone,

Those battle animations in the Witcher show how sword fighting is actually in reality. ( as close as it can get in a game anyway )

That might be, but the squatting-run-with-your-sword-held-WAY-over-your-head thing was just too weird for me. Sometimes its good to sacrifice reality for fantasy. I don't know, maybe it's not as bad as I remember.

Edit: Okay, looking at it on YouTube, that animation is as bad as I remember, however the rest of the combat looks pretty good!

Modifié par phaonica, 09 juillet 2010 - 01:40 .

[phaonica]

Arduine wrote...

I was! I'm in the minority and almost never played as a human! I covet my Dwarves and Elves. *mopes*

I don't usually play human, either, so I was surprised to find that I actually liked DAO's humans. But then... I hated fantasy dwarves before DAO and now I love them.

If they get rid of romances...Then I probably won't buy it. How would this be any different than other random generic RPGs then? Poor human commoner rises to fame and glory. Yaaay! Awakening was so lonely!

I didn't realize how much a love story impacted how much I like a game until I played... I think it was Final Fantasy 12 that didn't have much in the way of a love story... and I really missed that aspect! The romances really do a lot to invest your character's emotions into the story and care about saving the world (or at least just saving your LI).

I'm just glad you get to be female. I was worried about that, due to their nice marketing of only the male! T__T

I actually usually play male characters anyway, and most linear RPGs have male leads, so I'm used to it.

[Costin_Razvan]

 www.youtube.com/watch

Witcher sword combat and other things.

[phaonica]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

 www.youtube.com/watch

Witcher sword combat and other things.

Yeah, I'd like to give this series another chance.  Between school and modding, though, it's going to have to wait.

[Cypher0020]

Uhh... I don't know what to think about this yet......sadness

[Swoo]

phaonica wrote...

Costin_Razvan wrote...

 www.youtube.com/watch

Witcher sword combat and other things.

Yeah, I'd like to give this series another chance.  Between school and modding, though, it's going to have to wait.

I was told a lot of good things about Witcher, but after trying it I put it away and never gave it a second thought. Between horribly clunky combat (Madden field goals come to mind) and downright Sandal-esque voice work, I just couldn't tough it out.

I'll keep an eye on Witcher 2. CD Project seems to really care about their games at least and has been all over bug fixes and expanding and introducing freebies into existing projects, so I'd like to see them succeed.

Modifié par Swoo, 09 juillet 2010 - 02:01 .

[Sabariel]

After the variety of Origins it is indeed very disappointing that I can only play a human male or female. It feels like kind of a step backward to me...

[Costin_Razvan]

Honestly, the first hour or so of the Witcher is crap. ( the Prologue ), but from there on it gets really interesting.

 I'll keep an eye on Witcher 2. CD Project seems to really care about their games at least and has been all over bug fixes and expanding and introducing freebies into existing projects, so I'd like to see them succeed.  

Yeah...the Witcher was released with a lot of bugs, but they fixed most if not all of them by now. This is a big + for me for any company.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 09 juillet 2010 - 02:26 .

[MDarwin]

So no other races than human to play. "Isn't that racist"   Well if BW goes down this path, I will give it a miss. Let the FPS players have it! They might like it !


Woops, BAD TYPO!

Modifié par MDarwin, 09 juillet 2010 - 02:50 .

[Cypher0020]

Ok...http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/7403.html



game takes place over a 10 year time period....



WTF

[Sarah1281]

I am having flashbacks to Fable...my 90-year-old MC with the 30-ish sister...