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The "Canon" Grey Warden: What's the most likely scenario?


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syllogi

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If DA2 does give us information concerning the story of DA:O, and it is set as canon, what is the most likely origin for them to use?

Personally, although human nobles are fun to play, I don't see them using a Cousland on the throne.  Alistair and Anora ruling together, or one or the other ruling alone are more likely.

Dwarves?  A Dwarven Grey Warden as the Hero of Ferelden seems pretty feasible to me, because dwarves may not be a large part of the new plot, or else they could use Kal Sharok as a setting, which would avoid any conflicts with the previous game.

A Dalish Warden would be the same as dwarves, not a lot of "cleanup" to do with past plots.  A City Elf would be fine too, if their effect on Denerim isn't mentioned.

Mages might cause too many ripples due to the Circle...but who knows. 

Of course, they might gloss over any choices we made anyway, and any speculation is unnecessary.

Edited, my apologies for the formerly blank post.  :blush:

Modifié par TeenZombie, 09 juillet 2010 - 02:46 .


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Kaiser Shepard

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Morrigan's Dark Ritual seems to be the only thing that's canonized.



Aside from that one, I doubt any of your choices from Origins would get represented or even referenced in a whole different county.

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I believe that the Canon DA run-through would look like this.



Human Noble Warden.

Mages saved

Werewolves freed

Harrowmont king

Ashes saved

Warden lives (Sleeps with morrigan)

Alistair marries Queen




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Let's assume you're playing the child between Morrigan and the Warden, obviously he'll be male but he could be any species as human features are almost always dominant.

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Collider

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packardbell wrote...

Let's assume you're playing the child between Morrigan and the Warden, obviously he'll be male but he could be any species as human features are almost always dominant.

You aren't playing as the child.

Morrigan's Dark Ritual seems to be the only thing that's canonized.



Aside
from that one, I doubt any of your choices from Origins would get
represented or even referenced in a whole different county.

This is my guess.

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joriandrake

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canon Grey Warden: a bastard son of Shepard and Morrigan raised by masquerading krogans in a remote holographic village

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Onyx Jaguar

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Everything in this thread makes me sad

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Azint

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The Dark Ritual leaves an opening for a sequel better than the sacrafice does...

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Azint wrote...

The Dark Ritual leaves an opening for a sequel better than the sacrafice does...


This! Morrigans demon baby is alot more intresting and could be an amazing story.

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Halfno wrote...

Human Noble Warden.
Mages saved
Werewolves freed
Harrowmont king
Ashes saved
Warden lives (Sleeps with morrigan)
Alistair marries Queen


That would be my guess too.

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kraidy1117

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Halfno wrote...

I believe that the Canon DA run-through would look like this.

Human Noble Warden.
Mages saved
Werewolves freed
Harrowmont king
Ashes saved
Warden lives (Sleeps with morrigan)
Alistair marries Queen


No, he is a terrible king.

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Collider wrote...

packardbell wrote...

Let's assume you're playing the child between Morrigan and the Warden, obviously he'll be male but he could be any species as human features are almost always dominant.

You aren't playing as the child.




How do you know that you arent playing as the child
link please, or something that backs it up
please and thanky ou

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thesuperdarkone

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My canon is all of the appove except bhelen is king

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Kaiser Shepard

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Azint wrote...

The Dark Ritual leaves an opening for a sequel better than the sacrafice does...


This! Morrigans demon baby is alot more intresting and could be an amazing story.

True, but it does take the "choice" away from the player.

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Azint

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

True, but it does take the "choice" away from the player.

To "canonize" anything would do that anyways.

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Onyx Jaguar

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I don't think it makes for a very interesting scenario. The best part of DA was the political intrigue and the DR doesn't set that up very well.

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Mystranna Kelteel

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There's no need to canonize anything, and there's certainly no evidence (that I've seen) that implies the Dark Ritual is canon (though I had Alistair do it regardless).

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

There's no need to canonize anything, and there's certainly no evidence (that I've seen) that implies the Dark Ritual is canon (though I had Alistair do it regardless).


Awakening has the Warden alive no matter what.

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Mystranna Kelteel

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Dave of Canada wrote...
Awakening has the Warden alive no matter what.


Well, yeah, but that's a retcon and not a canonization.

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
Awakening has the Warden alive no matter what.


Well, yeah, but that's a retcon and not a canonization.


True, yet it implies that if they make a canon storyline that the Dark Ritual is likely to be the chosen ending.

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Helena Tylena

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dajackal07 wrote...

Collider wrote...

packardbell wrote...

Let's assume you're playing the child between Morrigan and the Warden, obviously he'll be male but he could be any species as human features are almost always dominant.

You aren't playing as the child.




How do you know that you arent playing as the child
link please, or something that backs it up
please and thanky ou


Something along the lines of 'you were alive during the Blight, and hence can't be Morrigan's child' was said by one of the Devs. I don't know which thread exactly, and it's probably buried by now, but it's been confirmed you're not Morrigan's god-baby.

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Mystranna Kelteel

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Dave of Canada wrote...
True, yet it implies that if they make a canon storyline that the Dark Ritual is likely to be the chosen ending.


I don't see how. The Warden can live with the sacrifice endings as well. They're just as valid and they depend on less variables.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

There's no need to canonize anything, and there's certainly no evidence (that I've seen) that implies the Dark Ritual is canon (though I had Alistair do it regardless).


Awakening has the Warden alive no matter what.


I always find that statement to be very unfair to Bioware (I haven't read a lot of the thread so I'm unsure what context you meant it in DoC, so let's just use this as a general example and not personal). The Warden is only alive no matter what if you, the player, decide to handwave the consequence of your actions and load in a dead character willingly.

I guess I just never understood the 'We are cool with it if you are cool with it', and then people get upset after they upload a sacrificed Warden that 'Bioware destroyed their game'. Just totally nonsensical to me.

As to the Canon Warden, Gaider (GAAAAAAAIDER!) said not to write him off quite yet. Always with the teasing.

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I think that the fact that this game takes place after a devastating event maybe the next blight is so that they can not have a cannon ending. everything from before will be "this may or may not of happened" or "no ones sure what really happened". and since it may be after the next blight the dark ritual could of happened at either time. so they sidestepped the issue

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Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
True, yet it implies that if they make a canon storyline that the Dark Ritual is likely to be the chosen ending.


I don't see how. The Warden can live with the sacrifice endings as well. They're just as valid and they depend on less variables.


I imported into my Awakening profile where I had King Alistair sacrifice himself, apparently he was still alive in Awakening (maybe it was a bug?) but it seemed to be that no matter what happened Alistair was alive (unless the Loghain choice happened).