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[Lucy Glitter]

 Yeah probably good warden will be canon. 

[Suron]

Halfno wrote...

I believe that the Canon DA run-through would look like this.

Human Noble Warden.
Mages saved
Werewolves freed
Harrowmont king
Ashes saved
Warden lives (Sleeps with morrigan)
Alistair marries Queen

I started to type and saw this..

so..

this.

[bigbade]

besides it wouldn't be ridiculous to think that DA2 may allow you to import your origins/awakening save files so that all the world decisions carry over without necessarily importing the warden in

I really doubt that they wouldn't take advantage of this fairly new idea of importing the saves especially seeing as they've made it clear that it's post-blight, and it would ruin it for alot of people if the stuff they were shown in the epilogue was recycle bin'd in the sequel

[syllogi]

bigbade wrote...

besides it wouldn't be ridiculous to think that DA2 may allow you to import your origins/awakening save files so that all the world decisions carry over without necessarily importing the warden in

I really doubt that they wouldn't take advantage of this fairly new idea of importing the saves especially seeing as they've made it clear that it's post-blight, and it would ruin it for alot of people if the stuff they were shown in the epilogue was recycle bin'd in the sequel

With an entirely new PC, they can easily forego importing saves, and save themselves the time and effort of fitting it into DA2.  I'm not saying it's impossible, but not as likely as it would be if we were continuing the adventures of the Grey Warden. 

I also think the Dark Ritual is canon no matter what.  If they allowed people to import the rest of their choices, but not this, people would be pretty peeved.

[Leon Evelake]

TeenZombie wrote...

bigbade wrote...

besides it wouldn't be ridiculous to think that DA2 may allow you to import your origins/awakening save files so that all the world decisions carry over without necessarily importing the warden in

I really doubt that they wouldn't take advantage of this fairly new idea of importing the saves especially seeing as they've made it clear that it's post-blight, and it would ruin it for alot of people if the stuff they were shown in the epilogue was recycle bin'd in the sequel

With an entirely new PC, they can easily forego importing saves, and save themselves the time and effort of fitting it into DA2.  I'm not saying it's impossible, but not as likely as it would be if we were continuing the adventures of the Grey Warden. 

I also think the Dark Ritual is canon no matter what.  If they allowed people to import the rest of their choices, but not this, people would be pretty peeved.

Like I said I think they have created a scenario where it can happen if you did the ritual or have happened after.  Assuming that the game takes place after the next blight.

[Kaiser Shepard]

My most burning question to the writers would at this moment be what they've done with the final choice of Awakening.

While the Warder survives anyway, the ending in which you spare the "Father" does lead to an arguably better pre-battle coversation with the Mother, not to mention also learning of the fact that it was him that caused the previous Blight. If it is canon for Urthemiel to survive, I suspect it might be just that for the Architect as well. Would be interesting to see, though, as his actions might eventually indeed have the intended purpose.

Also, like Morrigan, he probably is a favorite of Gaider.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 09 juillet 2010 - 04:02 .

[BroBear Berbil]

My guess is they reference the blight and then avoid the details as much as possible and with as few names as possible.

[Ellroy06]

They'll probably shroud it in mystery. Like, everyone knows about the GW that stopped the Blight, but no one really knows the details about him/her. There could be rumours, like "they say he was a human noble who's entire family was slaughtered" "I heard she was a female elven mage" "nah you're both wrong, he was an exhiled qunari from Par Vollen", etc, but no one would know everything for sure. Or they can make it so you can import the save from DA:O, carrying over your Warden and some of the decisions. Which for all we know may be what they do.

[BlackyBlack]

There won't be a canon which is why we play as a different character in DA2 (so that they don't have to do "consequences")

[Phazor58]

Halfno wrote...

I believe that the Canon DA run-through would look like this.

Human Noble Warden.
Mages saved
Werewolves freed
Harrowmont king
Ashes saved
Warden lives (Sleeps with morrigan)
Alistair marries Queen

Make Bhelen king, make Alistair king but not marry Anora, and make the Warden an elf mage and I'll be happy.

You know, cause then it would basically be my character, lol.  Also, chasing down Morrigan in Orlais please.

[Ellroy06]

BlackyBlack wrote...

There won't be a canon which is why we play as a different character in DA2 (so that they don't have to do "consequences")

Unless I missed something, it's only been confirmed that we won't be playing the same character, not that we won't be able to import the saves. The decisions you made could be carried over, and the 'canon' Warden could be the one you import...though, yeah, unlikely.

[Leon Evelake]

according to game informer you choices will carry over, possibly between systems even, and (i was very wrong) the game starts during the fall of lothering and carries on for 10 years. so no cannon ending

[Bobad]

Canon: Killed in Castle Cousland, by Giant Rats, some remains found in the yolks of Mabari dogs eggs.

[ITSSEXYTIME]

 In this day and age of saved game importing, I think having any sort of "canon" story is an act of laziness.

[Giltspur]

We don't even know that there will be a canon Warden. Besides, you import your save game (despite not continuing the Warden). There's no reason to canonize anything. Unless there's some Chantry member wagging a finger saying "No, you can't import this save game. It's too deviant."

[Leon Evelake]

aggh you didn't even read my post there is no cannon ending at this point they plan on having imported saves

[C9316]

The Canon Grey Warden you ask? By all means the "canon" warden will be a heroic and righteous fellow possibly a human of noble blood or some sort and through an epic adventure of epic proportions and have women fall over him and I know we most likely won't see this canon warden my guess is that he would look like this.

[Archereon]

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

 In this day and age of saved game importing, I think having any sort of "canon" story is an act of laziness.

No, its an act of creating a coherent plot.  The amount of handwaves, retcons and completely unbelievable and overly convinient "twists" in ME2 to prevent imported saves from effecting the game is staggering.  Since Dragon Age doesn't seem to be following a mottif of 1 protagonist through all games, canonizing it would strengthen the overall plot of Dragon Age.

Besides, the DR is the best sequel hook we have for future DA titles, its big enough that its product, the child, could easily be the villain, or the protagonist of Dragon Age 3.

[Mdfitz]

packardbell wrote...

Let's assume you're playing the child between Morrigan and the Warden, obviously he'll be male but he could be any species as human features are almost always dominant.

didnt read all the way sorry

Modifié par Mdfitz, 14 juillet 2010 - 03:14 .

[Ellestor]

Bobad wrote...

Canon: Killed in Castle Cousland, by Giant Rats, some remains found in the yolks of Mabari dogs eggs.

My mind is blown. Ferelden has giant rats? Mabari lay eggs? 

[Davasar]

None of it matters, the story is about Hawke, not the previous characters.

[syllogi]

Davasar wrote...

None of it matters, the story is about Hawke, not the previous characters.

As someone said above in this thread, your DA:O save can be imported, so I suppose there will be mentions of the characters from the last game.  I would *love* to see what some of my Grey Warden's companions are doing while I'm playing as Hawke.

I assume they'll have a default state too, for those who don't import saves from DA:O.  It will be interesting to see what events they choose to use for new players.

[Altima Darkspells]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Halfno wrote...

I believe that the Canon DA run-through would look like this.

Human Noble Warden.
Mages saved
Werewolves freed
Harrowmont king
Ashes saved
Warden lives (Sleeps with morrigan)
Alistair marries Queen

No, he is a terrible king.

I'm going to go with that this doesn't matter, as BioWare, as the sequels go further on, will try to minimalize dwarves and elves more and more.

So the only things that'll matter is that the Grey Warden is human (therefore, human noble), had relations with Morrigan (therefore, male), and, oh, I dunno, prolly Alistair living, but no mention of if he's married to Anora or no.

[Bryy_Miller]

dajackal07 wrote...

Collider wrote...

packardbell wrote...

Let's assume you're playing the child between Morrigan and the Warden, obviously he'll be male but he could be any species as human features are almost always dominant.

You aren't playing as the child.

How do you know that you arent playing as the child
link please, or something that backs it up
please and thanky ou

The game begins in Lothering before the sacking.

[i love lamp x3]

"You may be controlling a different character in Dragon Age II, but the choices your Grey Warden made in Origins are still imported from your save and reflected into the world. Who is leading Ferelden? Who defeated the archdemon? These questions are vital in determining the current state of the Dragon Age universe, and the team at BioWare wants to make sure your decisions carry over."

-lead designer Mike Laidlaw

"unlike the mass effect series, you won't feel left out if you haven't played Origins. The team has established a canon if you start fresh, and since the story isn't a direct continuation, Dragon Age II will be a great entry point."
-game informer

This all leads me to believe little effort is going to be put in to provide nostalgia. I'm guessing whoever killed the archdemon and whoever leads Ferelden will end up being two out of very few choices that actually get imported and will probably only be mentioned in passing. I wonder though, if the nameless PC is the king, how do they mention him? king grey warden? er i mean king former grey warden?

Modifié par i love lamp x3, 19 juillet 2010 - 07:07 .