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[Davasar]

As confirmed by the Mod Eurypterid on this thread
 
http://social.biowar...9/index/3062795

You do NOT get to choose your race. Since I have NO desire to play someone elses character, it's a game I won't be buying then.

Modifié par Davasar, 09 juillet 2010 - 03:45 .

[Abriael_CG]

"OH MY GAH! HE/SHE INSULTED BIOWARE!!! TO THE STAKE!!!"

Internet. The home of oversensitive people.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 09 juillet 2010 - 03:45 .

[Kaiser Shepard]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

You know what else was a waste of time?

Call of Duty 3

You know what else was?

Tetris





It was a helluva lot of fun, though.

[Davasar]

Abriael_CG wrote...

"OH MY GAH! HE/SHE INSULTED BIOWARE!!! TO THE STAKE!!!"

Internet. The home of oversensitive people.

LOL

I just don't think they recognize the immersion required by many players, and that involves making and playing your character, not someone elses.

Modifié par Davasar, 09 juillet 2010 - 03:48 .

[Merci357]

We lack any real information about DA2's gameplay - any reason to go on ranting like this? Why should they abandon everything that was enjoyable? After all, DA as a game catering to their core audience did as well (better, due to the PS3 release) then the streamlined ME2. It's the same team working on the sequel, maybe give them for once the benefit of the doubt until we have something to talk about besides some stupid marketing catch phrases.

[DespiertaLosNinos]

Abriael_CG wrote...

I would disagree with this.
First of all, defining it "insulting" is a bit farfetched. I would more label it as pretty harmless satire. Most public figures have to accept it, and I doubt game developers should be exempt.

Whether the disastrous changes depicted in the OP are really set to happen or it's pure theorycraft, preemptive expressions of concern are STILL an useful form of feedback for Bioware (IF they're willing to listen of course), as they can see where their fans stand about the issue.

Trust me, I'm no stranger to stiff opposition and less than accommodating people but you are honestly going to tell me that you think this is a good way of getting a point across?  I agree that negative feedback is an important thing but you yourself wrote "IF they're willing to listen", this style of feedback will ensure they don't listen.  Suron's approach is juvenile at best.

[Wrathra]

Abriael_CG wrote...

joriandrake wrote...
this is mostly why people are scared

Exactly. Mind you, the wording of the reveal site might as well be meaningless marketing jibberjabber, but it does cast a "mass effect 2 dumbing down" shadow on Dragon Age 2.

While I'm not 100% sold that such dumbing down will really happen, when it paddles around like a duck and quacks like a duck, it only needs to actually look like a duck to be a duck.
I would say expressing some concern on the matter is entirely justified.

I agree. I really, really, really want to be worried for nothing, but the recent trend of Bioware stuffs has me concerned.  

A pregenerated character (prolly not the exact right word) just doesn't sit right with me in a series like this. It worked in ME. It should stay in ME.   The entire way they've presented what little they have makes me nervous.

Modifié par Wrathra, 09 juillet 2010 - 03:57 .

[SirOccam]

Suron wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

I'm as guilty of jumping to conclusions as anyone, but this is a little nutty.
A lot of what little has been announced has been disappointing to me too, but that doesn't mean it's not going to be a great game.
And for what it's worth, ME2 is sooo much better than ME1. I'm not saying every change was for the better, but in general it was way smoother and a lot more fun to play. Better action, better squadmates (in my opinion), no Mako, no dealing with piles and piles of stupid upgrade junk, etc.

what's funny is..I almost..almost MIGHT agree..

except....I've played ME1 10+ times....and even though the combat is clunkier..and the inventory management is a mess..and the mako (which I didn't mind much..but then again I didn't mind scanning either) wasn't very good...

with all these "improvements" why can't I make it through a 3rd play of ME2?

makes ya wonder...

Indeed it does make me wonder, because I have had pretty much the opposite experience. Playing through ME1 is a chore, and I've only done it twice. I MIGHT do it once more to get a good "canon" playthrough of it and ME2 before ME3 comes out. But other than that, it's been all ME2. It's just...more FUN. I dunno. It doesn't feel like I'm constantly putting up with things while I play it.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

You know what else was a waste of time?

Call of Duty 3

You know what else was?

Tetris





It was a helluva lot of fun, though.

[Abriael_CG]

@SirOccam: The answer to that is quite simple. It's "variation". Variation adds to replayability, and Mass Effect 2 removed a lot of the variation to it's gameplay, making further playthorughs simply more boring.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 09 juillet 2010 - 04:00 .

[mordy_was_here]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

You know what else was a waste of time?

Call of Duty 3

You know what else was?

Tetris





It was a helluva lot of fun, though.

Lol.

[Davasar]

Abriael_CG wrote...

@SirOccam: The answer to that is quite simple. It's "variation". Variation adds to replayability, and Mass Effect 2 removed a lot of the variation to it's gameplay, making further playthorughs simply more boring.

Win.

[Kandene]

While I'm at odds with some of the changes as well I kinda feel it was necessary.



We should wait until more details about combat and the rpg elements are available and focus on the changing story/character.



I will support the change in the story simply because all my warden had left was his calling I don't think as high quality a story could be presented through him compared to a new character.

[Bryy_Miller]

Suron, grow up.

[TheShadowWolf911]

Helena Tylena wrote...

Don't feed the troll, people.

but i like feeding the troll.
'throws the troll a waffle'

[onotix]

[Magixion]

The funny thing is, people are saying that everything is turning into Mass Effect 2 (they claim its Bioware's new "track record"), when their track record is unbelievably good games. Just because they did something with Mass Effect 2 does not mean they are doing the same thing with Dragon Age. In my opinion, I think it was pretty clear Bioware wanted to go towards telling the story of one particular character in the sequel even before DA:O came out. Hence, the "Origins" in the title.



Everyone should stop freaking out and blasting Bioware for being a "traitor" and "sell out" until you have a clear understanding of the direction the game is going in and exactly how everything is going to be handled.

[Vicious]

Suron is THE internet tough guy!

[Livemmo]

Suron wrote...

thesuperdarkone wrote...

 To OP:

lol @ morons equating difference of opinion to a troll

good job....you fall into my simpleton category..if you can't show any intelligence, if you agree or disagree, then...well...yah...good job my friend.

obvious moron is obvious also y'know.

No. You yourself are being trolled by trolls that are trolling you by both calling you a troll and posting pictures of an actual troll doll. See now?

[Images]

Davasar wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

@SirOccam: The answer to that is quite simple. It's "variation". Variation adds to replayability, and Mass Effect 2 removed a lot of the variation to it's gameplay, making further playthorughs simply more boring.

Win.

I second that.

[joriandrake]

Images wrote...

Davasar wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

@SirOccam: The answer to that is quite simple. It's "variation". Variation adds to replayability, and Mass Effect 2 removed a lot of the variation to it's gameplay, making further playthorughs simply more boring.

Win.

I second that.

I endorse this too

[2papercuts]

MindYerBeak wrote...

I'm willing to bet 100G that a month after DA2 is released you'll be singing it's praises. You'll be proved wrong, will look and feel like an idiot, and change your forum name to Duncan.<br />
<br />

close!

Modifié par 2papercuts, 11 avril 2011 - 11:38 .