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[kraidy1117]

camcon2100 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

Ya i wish it had a main baddy like saren!! ME3 i have faith in. They did the best they could with the middle of a trilogy. They made the story interesting while a plot less interesting and i hope they put the best of both in ME3

Saren was not a good villian

How??

You want a good tragic, fallan hero villian? Play DAO, Loghain is what Saren should have been. ME had two bad villians. Saren was undev, not that intresting and was too hard to feel sorry for him. Soverign was pretty much "YOU PUNY MORTALS SUCK!!!" At lest in ME2, TIM was a fantastic villian and is one of the best Bioware has made.

[Pocketgb]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Ecael wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Mainly? Disconected plot, no cohesion.

Only run into the collectors what, three times?

Im not one of the haters, but i see their criticisms as valid.

How often did we fight Saren, Sovereign or Benezia?

But we fought the geth a lot.  I liked the collectors, and I wish we got to fight them more often.

This. Every main mission had the Geth, so we always had that sence. With ME2, there was too few missions with the Collectors and people forgot about them to the point where I consider the mercs the main villians in ME2. ZYes the emrcs make sence where we fight them, but there should have been more Collector missions.

Geth were cannon fodder, possibly the weakest enemies.

Not so much when you encounter the Collectors.

While they are encountered rather infrequently, the times you do encounter them leave some pretty good impressions.

[kraidy1117]

Pocketgb wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Ecael wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Mainly? Disconected plot, no cohesion.

Only run into the collectors what, three times?

Im not one of the haters, but i see their criticisms as valid.

How often did we fight Saren, Sovereign or Benezia?

But we fought the geth a lot.  I liked the collectors, and I wish we got to fight them more often.

This. Every main mission had the Geth, so we always had that sence. With ME2, there was too few missions with the Collectors and people forgot about them to the point where I consider the mercs the main villians in ME2. ZYes the emrcs make sence where we fight them, but there should have been more Collector missions.

Geth were cannon fodder, possibly the weakest enemies.

Not so much when you encounter the Collectors.

While they are encountered rather infrequently, the times you do encounter them leave some pretty good impressions.

You only fight the collectors two times beforte you go to there base. That's not right. There should have been more Collectors.

[Spectre 117]

Somebody1003 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

Ya i wish it had a main baddy like saren!! ME3 i have faith in. They did the best they could with the middle of a trilogy. They made the story interesting while a plot less interesting and i hope they put the best of both in ME3

Saren was not a good villian

How??

You want a good tragic, fallan hero villian? Play DAO, Loghain is what Saren should have been. ME had two bad villians. Saren was undev, not that intresting and was too hard to feel sorry for him. Soverign was pretty much "YOU PUNY MORTALS SUCK!!!" At lest in ME2, TIM was a fantastic villian and is one of the best Bioware has made.

I thought Saren and Sovereign were both pretty cool. And I definitely liked Sovereign a lot more then Harbinger. 

ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL!!! YOU WILL KNOW PAIN SOMEBODY 1003!!

[kraidy1117]

Somebody1003 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

camcon2100 wrote...

Ya i wish it had a main baddy like saren!! ME3 i have faith in. They did the best they could with the middle of a trilogy. They made the story interesting while a plot less interesting and i hope they put the best of both in ME3

Saren was not a good villian

How??

You want a good tragic, fallan hero villian? Play DAO, Loghain is what Saren should have been. ME had two bad villians. Saren was undev, not that intresting and was too hard to feel sorry for him. Soverign was pretty much "YOU PUNY MORTALS SUCK!!!" At lest in ME2, TIM was a fantastic villian and is one of the best Bioware has made.

I thought Saren and Sovereign were both pretty cool. And I definitely liked Sovereign a lot more then Harbinger. 

The problem with Saren is he is presented as a fallen hero and tragic villian, yet he was done poorly. There was no reason to feel sorry for him since he was ruthless, killed inocents and so on. As for Soverign. Villians like that are borining as hell.

[kraidy1117]

Hey at lest Harby made my laugh. All Sovereign did was make me facepalm.

[Pocketgb]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Pocketgb wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Ecael wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Mainly? Disconected plot, no cohesion.

Only run into the collectors what, three times?

Im not one of the haters, but i see their criticisms as valid.

How often did we fight Saren, Sovereign or Benezia?

But we fought the geth a lot.  I liked the collectors, and I wish we got to fight them more often.

This. Every main mission had the Geth, so we always had that sence. With ME2, there was too few missions with the Collectors and people forgot about them to the point where I consider the mercs the main villians in ME2. ZYes the emrcs make sence where we fight them, but there should have been more Collector missions.

Geth were cannon fodder, possibly the weakest enemies.

Not so much when you encounter the Collectors.

While they are encountered rather infrequently, the times you do encounter them leave some pretty good impressions.

You only fight the collectors two times beforte you go to there base. That's not right. There should have been more Collectors.

Only two times? Thank God, because Harbinger and all those scions can be a HUGE pain in the behind! Then a Pratoerian shows up and all goes to hell...

The infrequency of the Collector encounters coupled with the difficulty of their encounters (or at least 'harder' difficulty, might not be the same for some) added to the allure and threat of the Collectors: They are rarely seen, but when they are bad, bad things are going to happen. Worked well.

Modifié par Pocketgb, 09 juillet 2010 - 04:19 .

[Spectre 117]

I WILL TEAR YOU APART SOMEBODY 1003!!! Seriously i think harby is at least funnier than sovereing but he aint one of those villians that you really want to kill like The Spaniard in AC2

[MarchWaltz]

ME3 will be the best.

ME2 is the odd "middle" game.

ME1 was good because it set the ground work on what we had to do.

ME3 will be good because we are finishing it.

ME2 had to push the game forward, thusly being the odd ball.

[kraidy1117]

Somebody1003 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Hey at lest Harby made my laugh. All Sovereign did was make me facepalm.

I facepalmed with harbinger. A whole lot of sexual innuendo there...

But at least he made us laugh and created funny memes.Plus we can't compare Harby and Sovereign yet because we still have ME3 and Harby is still alive.

[kraidy1117]

Spectre 117 wrote...

I WILL TEAR YOU APART SOMEBODY 1003!!! Seriously i think harby is at least funnier than sovereing but he aint one of those villians that you really want to kill like The Spaniard in AC2

TIM is a villian people will enjoy killing. That's a villian and Saren should have been like Loghain. With Loghain you felt sorry for him and understood why he did what he did and he was just well-done.

[Spectre 117]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Spectre 117 wrote...

I WILL TEAR YOU APART SOMEBODY 1003!!! Seriously i think harby is at least funnier than sovereing but he aint one of those villians that you really want to kill like The Spaniard in AC2

I'll give you that, he did make me laugh.

And yeah, I really did want to kill that guy.

Yeah and like Kradiy said we have to wait and see how evil he is i ME3 but still in 2010 he is on the top 10 Wannabe Villians:D

[Onyx Jaguar]

Don't worry, Harbinger will be around to enlighten us further

[Spectre 117]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Spectre 117 wrote...

I WILL TEAR YOU APART SOMEBODY 1003!!! Seriously i think harby is at least funnier than sovereing but he aint one of those villians that you really want to kill like The Spaniard in AC2

TIM is a villian people will enjoy killing. That's a villian and Saren should have been like Loghain. With Loghain you felt sorry for him and understood why he did what he did and he was just well-done.

Yes TIM reminds me of the spaniard but worse cause i had to work with him and i have to thank him for being alive :l

[kraidy1117]

Somebody1003 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Spectre 117 wrote...

I WILL TEAR YOU APART SOMEBODY 1003!!! Seriously i think harby is at least funnier than sovereing but he aint one of those villians that you really want to kill like The Spaniard in AC2

TIM is a villian people will enjoy killing. That's a villian and Saren should have been like Loghain. With Loghain you felt sorry for him and understood why he did what he did and he was just well-done.

I actually like TIM in a way.

Thats what makes TIM such a good villian. You want to hate him, yet if you look closey his ideas while are extream are right. It what makes him so compeling and probaly one of the best characters Bioware has ever done. PLus his theme also added the epicness to it.

[Inquisitor Recon]

The only thing I have a problem with is the ridiculous "Hey lets kill Shepard for two years to move the plot ahead and get him working for Cerberus." There must have been a better way to do that.



Yet unlike some people's obsession with plot holes this doesn't change the fact that I think it is a great game.

[kraidy1117]

Spectre 117 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Spectre 117 wrote...

I WILL TEAR YOU APART SOMEBODY 1003!!! Seriously i think harby is at least funnier than sovereing but he aint one of those villians that you really want to kill like The Spaniard in AC2

TIM is a villian people will enjoy killing. That's a villian and Saren should have been like Loghain. With Loghain you felt sorry for him and understood why he did what he did and he was just well-done.

Yes TIM reminds me of the spaniard but worse cause i had to work with him and i have to thank him for being alive :l

LOL I think TIMs death will be a very sad but happy moment in gaming (that makes no sence )

[kraidy1117]

ReconTeam wrote...

The only thing I have a problem with is the ridiculous "Hey lets kill Shepard for two years to move the plot ahead and get him working for Cerberus." There must have been a better way to do that.

Yet unlike some people's obsession with plot holes this doesn't change the fact that I think it is a great game.

I am not against the two year thing. It took two years to fix the Citidal and even after two years it's still being fixed. I still think that Bioware should not have leaked that we die at the star. It should have been a surprise.