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[kingkellogg]

Yah i went there.
With the main character being a human male or female,  more cinematic story telling(Mass effect), the possibility of a greatly altered conversation system it seems to be a reasonable assumption.Or even the possibilty  of the main character being voiced.

   I love dragon age, not mass effect i don't want the game to be tweaked because they think those types of changes worked well for that game. I want what was in dragon age origins to be expanded on not "streamlined" to appeal to more people or so it can be released as quickly as possible.

[Onyx Jaguar]

streamlined doesn't equate to being released quickly, Bugginess is. The quicker its release, the buggier it is. Sometimes. Unless you are Insomniac.

[Leon Evelake]

Hehe puns.

I haven't played much of mass effect but a lot of people seem to share this view. and many have made pretty good arguments in that regard. all i can say is i hope not ... but it seems that way.

[kingkellogg]

YokoFactor wrote...

SEVERAL TOPICS ABOUT THIS EXACT THING ALREADY.

Sorry for the caps lock.

But mine has a catchier name.

It seems to me like Ea is just trying to get this game out quick in order to cash in on the previous games success.Besides the hastiness that the game is being made with,it seems  that they're decisions are being based on what will be cheaper and quicker to make. 

[joriandrake]

YokoFactor wrote...

SEVERAL TOPICS ABOUT THIS EXACT THING ALREADY.

Sorry for the caps lock.

still, doesn't make the OP-s post less true

[Onyx Jaguar]

unless its not true

[Leon Evelake]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

unless its not true

It seems perfectly plausible.  You gave another reason for one element of his comment, but gave no real reason that his overall assertion was not true

[Onyx Jaguar]

Outside of limiting the Character to a base Human character there isn't an indication that it would be "mass effected"



Even Mass Effect has multiple Origins, you just don't play as them.

[Keithhy]

I sincerely hope that Dragon Age has taken a hint from Mass Effect, and will be fully voiced. The fact that the main character will be known as Hawke is an indication of this (In ME everyone goes around calling you Shepard despite your rather feeble protests that you have another name), and hopefully Bioware will go ahead with this. DA:O was fantastic, but the effect of the conversation mechanic was blunted by the fact that your character pretty much just stood there and got talked to. I ended up saying my character's lines in lieu of a real voice, but it's not the same.

[errant_knight]

I wasn't that bothered by the human only thing, except that it's just one more way they're abandoning the Origins model that I liked so much. I can see the reasons, if they have a particular story they wanted to tell. But now I've found that it will be fully voiced. Aw, crap. FPG is just flying out the window. I really don't like the Mass Effect voice system. I liked having actual choices of what I wanted to say, not a vague idea. I liked it that I could have my character saying the lines as I roleplayed it. I hope I'm wrong, but this has action not rpg written all over it.

Keithhy wrote...

I sincerely hope that Dragon Age has taken a hint from Mass Effect, and will be fully voiced. The fact that the main character will be known as Hawke is an indication of this (In ME everyone goes around calling you Shepard despite your rather feeble protests that you have another name), and hopefully Bioware will go ahead with this. DA:O was fantastic, but the effect of the conversation mechanic was blunted by the fact that your character pretty much just stood there and got talked to. I ended up saying my character's lines in lieu of a real voice, but it's not the same.

Heh, you can do that in your head you know.

Modifié par errant_knight, 09 juillet 2010 - 04:35 .

[kingkellogg]

Personally i don't want dragon age 2 to be voiced,If they go the fully voiced path its very likely that the amount of choice and side conversations will be greatly limited,besides that i don't want to be called Hawke all the time.

[Onyx Jaguar]

errant_knight wrote...

I wasn't that bothered by the human only thing, except that it's just one more way they're abandoning the Origins model that I liked so much. I can see the reasons, if they have a particular story they wanted to tell. But now I've found that it will be fully voiced. Aw, crap. FPG is just flying out the window. I really don't like the Mass Effect voice system. I liked having actual choices of what I wanted to say, not a vague idea. I liked it that I could have my character saying the lines as I roleplayed it. I hope I'm wrong, but this has action not rpg written all over it.

Keithhy wrote...

I sincerely hope that Dragon Age has taken a hint from Mass Effect, and will be fully voiced. The fact that the main character will be known as Hawke is an indication of this (In ME everyone goes around calling you Shepard despite your rather feeble protests that you have another name), and hopefully Bioware will go ahead with this. DA:O was fantastic, but the effect of the conversation mechanic was blunted by the fact that your character pretty much just stood there and got talked to. I ended up saying my character's lines in lieu of a real voice, but it's not the same.

Heh, you can do that in your head you know.

I have too many voices in my head competing for my airtime, makes me purple

[errant_knight]

kingkellogg wrote...

Personally i don't want dragon age 2 to be voiced,If they go the fully voiced path its very likely that the amount of choice and side conversations will be greatly limited,besides that i don't want to be called Hawke all the time.

I haven't seen the link to verify, but enough people are saying it's fully voiced that it seems likely. I was expecting less choice and side conversation anyway, just based on Awakening and the DLCs, it seems to be the way they have chosen to go. This makes it virtually certain.

I just don't understand why they took all those years making an innovative RPG if they were going to scrap the model immediately. I could understand it if people hated it, but that's not the case.

[Leon Evelake]

Keithhy wrote...

I sincerely hope that Dragon Age has taken a hint from Mass Effect, and will be fully voiced. The fact that the main character will be known as Hawke is an indication of this (In ME everyone goes around calling you Shepard despite your rather feeble protests that you have another name), and hopefully Bioware will go ahead with this. DA:O was fantastic, but the effect of the conversation mechanic was blunted by the fact that your character pretty much just stood there and got talked to. I ended up saying my character's lines in lieu of a real voice, but it's not the same.

God no.  The point in origins was that you create you character in appearance backstory and personality.  The mass effect system would kill that, I dont want to select some generality hopeing that is close to what I mean so I can listen to voiced dialogue.  That kills the immersion and the variation of personality you can put behind your character.  You can have it in mass effect all you want but putting that in dragon age may well kill the experience, at least the part I loved.  i want dozens options not three, and the ability to define my character through the conversations so he has a degree of depth.

[joriandrake]

kingkellogg wrote...

Personally i don't want dragon age 2 to be voiced,If they go the fully voiced path its very likely that the amount of choice and side conversations will be greatly limited,besides that i don't want to be called Hawke all the time.

to be frank, i see no other reason for Bioware to cut out the option to play as other races than to plan to make Dragon Age 2 fully voiced, and are too lazy to make multiple voiceovers for elven females, male dwarves, ect.

[kingkellogg]

errant_knight wrote...

kingkellogg wrote...

Personally i don't want dragon age 2 to be voiced,If they go the fully voiced path its very likely that the amount of choice and side conversations will be greatly limited,besides that i don't want to be called Hawke all the time.

I haven't seen the link to verify, but enough people are saying it's fully voiced that it seems likely. I was expecting less choice and side conversation anyway, just based on Awakening and the DLCs, it seems to be the way they have chosen to go. This makes it virtually certain.

I just don't understand why they took all those years making an innovative RPG if they were going to scrap the model immediately. I could understand it if people hated it, but that's not the case.

True,and so very depressing.I'm not going to buy it ,if its like that.

[DarthRomance]

They want the game to look cooler on the 360. Lack of sploshuns and twitchy fingers disappoint 360 fanboys.

[Keithhy]

Because everyone is so hell-bent on hurting my delicate feelings, I'll clarify. Loss of characterization and extra dialogue is a very, very bad thing. However, right now, Bioware is attempting to fit nine novels worth of voice acting into TOR, and there's no reason they can't have one (albeit detailed) novel's worth of voice acting in DA2. Everyone else in the world is already voiced, and it wouldn't be too hard to simply add audio to the main character's lines.



The one thing I don't like about voice acting is that you're character becomes the same as everyone else's, and ideally I'd want half a dozen different voices to choose from. However, that's not going to happen, and I know it.



By the way, for everyone who's digging their heels in so quickly at the mention of voice acting, it's obviously going to happen, so making claims such as, "I won't buy it!", and "I'd rather fry myself in a toaster!" sound a trifle petulant.

[Onyx Jaguar]

DarthRomance wrote...

They want the game to look cooler on the 360. Lack of sploshuns and twitchy fingers disappoint 360 fanboys.

grow up

[Keithhy]

Because everyone is so hell-bent on hurting my delicate feelings, I'll clarify. Loss of characterization and extra dialogue is a very, very bad thing. However, right now, Bioware is attempting to fit nine novels worth of voice acting into TOR, and there's no reason they can't have one (albeit detailed) novel's worth of voice acting in DA2. Everyone else in the world is already voiced, and it wouldn't be too hard to simply add audio to the main character's lines.

The one thing I don't like about voice acting is that you're character becomes the same as everyone else's, and ideally I'd want half a dozen different voices to choose from. However, that's not going to happen, and I know it.

Modifié par Keithhy, 09 juillet 2010 - 06:02 .

[kraidy1117]

DarthRomance wrote...

They want the game to look cooler on the 360. Lack of sploshuns and twitchy fingers disappoint 360 fanboys.

And PC gamers will comit suicide when there PC blows up.

[joriandrake]

@Keithhy





as I explained in another thread, the times are different from the 80's where you either bought a game and played it, or didn't buy it and missed out on it.

If people today say they will not buy it then they usually mean they are dissatisfied with the choices made for the development of the game and will pirate the game rather to give money for a game they didn't want it to turn out like.



This is why listening to complains from the fanbase is the top priority for developers now, or they might soon find themself bankrupt.









Also: I seriously see no other cause for cutting option for multiple origins and races from Dragon Age than to make a single male and female voiceover for the main character, neglecting male/female dwarven or elven, ect voices thus.

[Vicious]

You all lose. Go back to Dragon Age 1.

[Keithhy]

@joriandrake



Actually, you make a good point. While Bioware does seem to be particularly mule-headed, I suppose that even they might have to listen to the community, considering the sheer number of complaints that come up at the mere implication of voice acting (Which is, I suppose, reasonable, considering the fact that it means less customization).