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What do we KNOW so far? Updated: 02 Feb 2011 *spoilers* *FINAL UPDATE* (or IS it?)


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Hmmmm... I wonder if Hawke being related to the human mage warden will be of much significance.
I really don't fancy doing another play through.... But i will if it is Posted Image

Also - majorly disappointed that we wont meet any Qunari females as i am in love with the Qunari, but i was very very pleased when i found out we would be (however much) involved with the culture.

I really hope we meet Sten again Posted Image

Modifié par Weebz, 05 octobre 2010 - 10:07 .


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Ahhhh nothing earth shattering... Good good ^_^

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Weebz wrote...

Hmmmm... I wonder if Hawke being related to the human mage warden will be of much significance.
I really don't fancy doing another play through.... But i will if it is :)

Also - majorly disappointed that we wont meet any Qunari females as i am in love with the Qunari, but i was very very pleased when i found out we would be (however much) involved with the culture.

I really hope we meet Sten again <3


I know we can't totally depend on concept art but this bit of concept art tells me we may have a Qunari companion.

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ViSeirA wrote...


David said somewhere that the mage boon isn't happening, like you never asked for it.


That is incorrect.

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KhorinShizucor wrote...

Weebz wrote...

Hmmmm... I wonder if Hawke being related to the human mage warden will be of much significance.
I really don't fancy doing another play through.... But i will if it is :)

Also - majorly disappointed that we wont meet any Qunari females as i am in love with the Qunari, but i was very very pleased when i found out we would be (however much) involved with the culture.

I really hope we meet Sten again <3


I know we can't totally depend on concept art but this bit of concept art tells me we may have a Qunari companion.



Ahhh i really hope so! HOW in apple sauce have i not seen that picture before??
Thanks for that !

I got the impression from all the forums etc that i had been lurking that no-one was really interested in the Qunari at all, everything was Alistar & Morrigan - which wasnt a suprise, they are the main companions after all.
But people seemed kind of - unhappy about them being a feature...?
Thats most likely the whole horn thing though.

Any way i for one am happy Posted Image

As for the dalish elves newly Welsh accents....
Fair enough Rob Brydan is Welsh but his accent isnt that "broad"
I hope the dalish are full on Welsh Posted Image

& that one of our companions is "Fex"

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Weebz wrote...
I got the impression from all the forums etc that i had been lurking that no-one was really interested in the Qunari at all, everything was Alistar & Morrigan - which wasnt a suprise, they are the main companions after all.


Which forums?  There was a whole thread here (a long one too) for people who wanted a qunari romance.

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Riona45 wrote...

Weebz wrote...
I got the impression from all the forums etc that i had been lurking that no-one was really interested in the Qunari at all, everything was Alistar & Morrigan - which wasnt a suprise, they are the main companions after all.


Which forums?  There was a whole thread here (a long one too) for people who wanted a qunari romance.



One thread? Compared to how many for the Alistair fan girls?
Forums here, the nexus, just general searching & googling really,

But i digress, i want to hear more on the Fex!!

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Weebz wrote...




One thread? Compared to how many for the Alistair fan girls?


Well, not just one thread about the qunari (which, I'll point, is a topic of a different nature than one particular romancable character), but you said it didn't seem like anyone was interested in them whereas I got the opposite impression.

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My second main is a mage. I'll do a playtrough with his decisions as well.
<--- He doesn't look related to Hawke in the least though.


But you could just make him look related.  ah, the beauty of CC. Now that I think of it, that would actually be a fun little project to try. Hmmm...Posted Image


I'm going to have the same issue, considering my avatar here is an Amell and my canon Warden. I hadn't originally planned on making Hawke Rivaini (ethnically, at least), but now with the confirmed - however close/far - Amell/Hawke family link, looks like my Hawke will be different than my original plan. I don't mind, however. In fact, I think I'll make him a mix - maybe a quarter Rivaini, because even if Hawke and Warden!Amell are first cousins, that's still far enough apart for my Warden to look mostly Rivaini and for Hawke to look mostly Ferelden with a few subtle Rivaini features.

I'm actually kinda excited about this, as I'm already getting far better early drafts in my head than my original Hawke ideas. Whoo! :D

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perishh wrote...

So... How is it a sequal?
No Warden?
No Morrigan ending?
No Morrigan's child?
No return of old favorite characters?
All new adventure?
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Anyone else as dissapointed as I am?  I mean They didnt exactly put an ending on the 1st one.
As much as I LOVED the 1st one I'm not exicted about the next Posted Image

I am a bit dissapointed too. Though a lot of things I am looking forward to, there are a few things I am not. I feel quite limited to know that we can only play as Hawke! I prefered making my own characters!  Saying that, IF we indded can make our own Hawke family member then that will be kind of cool. At least we could change the appearance, but I feel for those who like to play as elves and dwarves.

Modifié par Antmarkhemingway, 06 octobre 2010 - 04:56 .


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I feel quite limited to know that we can only play as Hawke! I prefered making my own characters!


If you think about it, all Bioware games limit you to playing a character with a single role.

In the Baldur's Gate series, you're the Bhaalspawn.

In Neverwinter Nights, you're the Hero of Neverwinter.

In KOTOR, you're a... very, very important Jedi. (Don't want to spoil that in case someone here hasn't played KOTOR yet)

In Jade Empire, you're the last Spirit Monk.

In Mass Effect, you're Commander Shepard.

In Dragon Age, you're the Warden that saves Ferelden from the Fifth Blight (regardless of whether or not you sacrifice yourself or even take the final blow, you're one of the main people moving events along).

Now, all of these games allowed you to customize the character in some way and make choices that shape the story and how others react to you. Granted, some of these games offered you more options in character creation - such as different playable races - but in the end, you're still in the same role, though your approach to fulfilling that role is determined by your actions. Except for Commander Shepard (who has a predetermined basic personality - you just choose from possible options available to his/her personality), they all allow - within innate limitations of a video game RPG and a linear storyline - a certain degree of the player shaping who/what that hero is, as a person.

I fail to see how Hawke is any different. I completely understand people being saddened by the restriction to human-only for creation, however... That has little effect on our ability to shape who Hawke is as a person. And it's hardly the first time Bioware's limited the character creation options to human only. In fact, half of the games I listed above have human-only PCs.

That's my two coppers on the subject, anyway. Not sure if I'm articulating them clearly or not, though. :P

Modifié par DalishRanger, 06 octobre 2010 - 07:42 .


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Well Mr. DalishRanger, seeing as pretty much 90% of the games i have played (and I have played a lot) are like this, it comes as no surprise that the list of games you mentioned had a single character you play as who shapes the whole game. In fact the only game I can remember where you dont play as a single important character, are the COD games, because you play as numerous characters. But yeah, any game where you play as 1 character, chances are, he or she is gonna be pretty important.

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Trumellionaire1 wrote...

Well Mr. DalishRanger


I'm a woman. Hence my signature quote about me having two X chromosomes. :P


To the rest: That's my point though - I don't see why people are complaining they're being "forced" to play Hawke, when it's no different than any other game. Even Origins, while different in the beginning and some dialogue in certain parts, was essentially the same regardless of what your Warden was to start with. I understand the disappointment in only having humans as an option for character creation, but that's not the same as being put in a particular role for the story. That's kinda the staple of linear RPGs like Bioware makes, or almost any video game for that matter. :blink:

Modifié par DalishRanger, 06 octobre 2010 - 08:07 .


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DalishRanger wrote...

Antmarkhemingway wrote...
I feel quite limited to know that we can only play as Hawke! I prefered making my own characters!


If you think about it, all Bioware games limit you to playing a character with a single role.

In the Baldur's Gate series, you're the Bhaalspawn.

In Neverwinter Nights, you're the Hero of Neverwinter.

In KOTOR, you're a... very, very important Jedi. (Don't want to spoil that in case someone here hasn't played KOTOR yet)

In Jade Empire, you're the last Spirit Monk.

In Mass Effect, you're Commander Shepard.

In Dragon Age, you're the Warden that saves Ferelden from the Fifth Blight (regardless of whether or not you sacrifice yourself or even take the final blow, you're one of the main people moving events along).

Now, all of these games allowed you to customize the character in some way and make choices that shape the story and how others react to you. Granted, some of these games offered you more options in character creation - such as different playable races - but in the end, you're still in the same role, though your approach to fulfilling that role is determined by your actions. Except for Commander Shepard (who has a predetermined basic personality - you just choose from possible options available to his/her personality), they all allow - within innate limitations of a video game RPG and a linear storyline - a certain degree of the player shaping who/what that hero is, as a person.

I fail to see how Hawke is any different. I completely understand people being saddened by the restriction to human-only for creation, however... That has little effect on our ability to shape who Hawke is as a person. And it's hardly the first time Bioware's limited the character creation options to human only. In fact, half of the games I listed above have human-only PCs.

That's my two coppers on the subject, anyway. Not sure if I'm articulating them clearly or not, though. :P


That is a very interesting point Dalish Ranger, and the more I have thought about this the more I am coming round to it.  If our character is simply born into the Hawke family, but we can customise their appearance than i suppose that is fine. Im glad the mage option is there :).

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Antmarkhemingway wrote...
That is a very interesting point Dalish Ranger, and the more I have thought about this the more I am coming round to it.  If our character is simply born into the Hawke family, but we can customise their appearance than i suppose that is fine. Im glad the mage option is there :).


Glad my point was clearer than it sounded to me. :lol:

From all accounts I've heard/seen from the devs, you can indeed customize the looks/class and personality of Hawke, just like in Dragon Age. It's just the interface is different and there's one origin, not several. Whether people will like that or not overall will have to wait until the game comes out, but being the cautiously optimistic person that I am, I think if customization is your concern, it sounds like you'll be happy with DA2. :)

But if I'm wrong, come March feel free to berate tell me. ;)

Modifié par DalishRanger, 06 octobre 2010 - 08:24 .


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DalishRanger wrote...

Antmarkhemingway wrote...
That is a very interesting point Dalish Ranger, and the more I have thought about this the more I am coming round to it.  If our character is simply born into the Hawke family, but we can customise their appearance than i suppose that is fine. Im glad the mage option is there :).


Glad my point was clearer than it sounded to me. :lol:

From all accounts I've heard/seen from the devs, you can indeed customize the looks/class and personality of Hawke, just like in Dragon Age. It's just the interface is different and there's one origin, not several. Whether people will like that or not overall will have to wait until the game comes out, but being the cautiously optimistic person that I am, I think if customization is your concern, it sounds like you'll be happy with DA2. :)

But if I'm wrong, come March feel free to berate tell me. ;)


Well  im very easily impressed and pleased, and I know I will love DA 2, though I was initially under the impression your character wasn't uniquely the players, but i do see now that this will not be the case.

I have NEVER played DA:O as a dwarf or elf, I always go for the human mage route, still not bored of it on my 5th time round LOL.  So I personally dont care much that those other races arent in the game, but I do sympathise with those who are dissapointed..... But they will soon get over that I expect :-).

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"Alistair will likely make a cameo appearance. Steve Valentine seems to have done some work on DA2. [SV Twitter: 1, 2] NEW 10/01"



And fan girls of the world just got a lil moister

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Rumor has it Hawke will be voiced by the same VO who played Vaughan in DA:O.

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A bit more info about picking/forced companions :wizard:

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/4972024%26lf%3D8#4972193

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Podcast 4 is out now, if you are interested



http://social.biowar...index/4980383/1

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Lady light doorbell wrote...

Podcast 4 is out now, if you are interested

http://social.biowar...index/4980383/1

Yeah I've got about a third of the transcription typed out.

Here's the link for the transcript so far, if anyone's interested. It'll get finished eventually (hopefully tonight).

Based on the last thing I typed before posting this, I am thinking Cammen and Gheyna are going to be in DA2 (perhaps only if you got them together). I'm calling it now.

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 Cammen as a Follower call that now ;)

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I wish they had just a random NPC named "Hawke" when The Warden from Origins travel to Lothering from Ostagar.

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Crappystuff wrote...

I wish they had just a random NPC named "Hawke" when The Warden from Origins travel to Lothering from Ostagar.


That would be quite weird, since Hawke can be both male and female, and it would be quite weird if the NPC was a man, while your DA2 Hawke would be a woman. It would be if someone in Lothering would've talked about him though.

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Yeah, something like that. Since I feel like it's blank to have a guy named "Hawke" in Lothering although you haven't seen or heard about the guy in Origins.