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[D34dw4lk3r]

Dave of Canada wrote...

D34dw4lk3r wrote...

DA 2 needs only a 7 GB of your disk drive. DA Origins with expansion and all DLC packs takes more than 20 GB. I think a answer is obvious.

That you're overreacting?

No, I'm just realistic. Ok, maybe a compression method is better and so on, but I'm sure that DA 2 will not have about 100 hours of gameplay. More like about 30-40, as ME2.

[nightcobra]

 like a wise bag of bolts once said:

Statement: It is about making more with less.

[ankuu]

D34dw4lk3r wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

D34dw4lk3r wrote...

DA 2 needs only a 7 GB of your disk drive. DA Origins with expansion and all DLC packs takes more than 20 GB. I think a answer is obvious.

That you're overreacting?

No, I'm just realistic. Ok, maybe a compression method is better and so on, but I'm sure that DA 2 will not have about 100 hours of gameplay. More like about 30-40, as ME2.

They said that it's going to be almost the same lenght as ME2 anyway...but truth being told, would you rather have 30 h of good gameplay or would you like to spend hours and hours in places like the Fade? And the actual Origins took some time too so it's normal for DA2 to be shorter...

But i also think you are overreacting.

[D34dw4lk3r]

Fade...I think I'm the only one who didn't lost nerves on this quest

I see that people misunderstand me. I also want to see 30h of epic gameplay but also I have a feeling that DA 2 won't be on the same level as Origins when we look sequel as one complete product.

I hope you understand what I want to tell because I'm from Europe and english isn't my primary language

Modifié par D34dw4lk3r, 27 décembre 2010 - 11:54 .

[ankuu]

D34dw4lk3r wrote...

Fade...I think I'm the only one who didn't lost nerves on this quest

I see that people misunderstand me. I also want to see 30h of epic gameplay but also I have a feeling that DA 2 won't be on the same level as Origins when we look sequel as one complete product.

I hope you understand what I want to tell because I'm from Europe and english isn't my primary language

Sorry if i misunderstood you then ^^""

Origins was a big hit and it's always hard to live up to the standards...but DA2 is made by the same people and has a lot of improvements (for example visual style) so it's hard to go wrong. And i think they know that next year competition is important.

[D34dw4lk3r]

Since you mentioned visuals, in last PC gameplay walkthrough video graphics looked terrible and I really hope that graphics will be better in final version of game.

[Graunt]

D34dw4lk3r wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

D34dw4lk3r wrote...

DA 2 needs only a 7 GB of your disk drive. DA Origins with expansion and all DLC packs takes more than 20 GB. I think a answer is obvious.

That you're overreacting?

No, I'm just realistic. Ok, maybe a compression method is better and so on, but I'm sure that DA 2 will not have about 100 hours of gameplay. More like about 30-40, as ME2.

Dragon Age:Origins did not have "100 hours of gameplay" out of the box either. Unless of course you truly believe that starting a new game for a different origin (race) and playing it all the way through is somehow adding more content other than the first 30 - 45 minutes that you didn't already see in your first playthrough.  

Origins took approximately 35 hours to beat without skipping anything.  The only reason it would take longer is if someone takes a very long time to read, or they paused every single move during fights.  You can't count the DLC or Awakenings either -- that's just being utterly unrealistic.

Since you mentioned visuals, in last PC gameplay walkthrough video
graphics looked terrible and I really hope that graphics will be better
in final version of game.

Don't count on the PC visuals to look any better than a "modern console game that came out in 2008" until texture packs are released.  Origins looked like something straight out of 2004 - 2005 and was barely above Xbox quality.

Modifié par Graunt, 27 décembre 2010 - 12:49 .

[Warheadz]

How could you possibly beat Origins in 35 hours? I have had 3 playhtroughs and all of them took about 60 hours. Without DLC. And I didn't exactly waste any time running back and forth.

[ankuu]

Warheadz wrote...

How could you possibly beat Origins in 35 hours? I have had 3 playhtroughs and all of them took about 60 hours. Without DLC. And I didn't exactly waste any time running back and forth.

My very first playthrough in which i didn't skip dialogue and i was kinda lost here and there took around 42h. But i played only the main quest (maybe 2-3 side ones but i don't really remember). Oh and the playthrough was on normal.

Modifié par ankuu, 27 décembre 2010 - 01:48 .

[Pitrus]

Yea, Can you run it is sort of flawed. The video card memories of today are rather complex and the site isn't up to date. The nvidia cards are the ones on the left on Tomshardware, if you tell me the name of yours I can look it up for you Warheadz.



Peace

[upsettingshorts]

Warheadz wrote...

How could you possibly beat Origins in 35 hours? I have had 3 playhtroughs and all of them took about 60 hours. Without DLC. And I didn't exactly waste any time running back and forth.

Most of my playthroughs of DAO were around 40-50 hours.  And most of my playthroughs in ME1-2 were 35-45 hours. 

Guess how worried I am about how long DA2 is?  

[Paladin000]

Dear developers, could you answer me: what role plays the Architect in DA world? What consequences can cause our choice in Awakening (to kill him or to leave him alive) in DA 2?

Modifié par Paladin000, 27 décembre 2010 - 06:38 .

[SSJ5]

I was wondering if we will see the Grand Oak in the sequel? Even though he made only a small appearance he left quite a bit of an impression on me.

[sevalaricgirl]

Don't count on the PC visuals to look any better than a "modern console game that came out in 2008" until texture packs are released.  Origins looked like something straight out of 2004 - 2005 and was barely above Xbox quality.

Play it in 3D and you'll definitely see a difference.  Of course it is your opinion, but I happen to love DAO graphics and think they are quality.  Bioware was going for look and they were very successful at it.  Now I own some of those 2004-2005 games which are pixelated, etc, and need texture packs to make them look good and DAO's graphic quality is much better than that.  That you didn't like the graphics is fine but there are many thousands of us who do.

[Wissenschaft]

Graunt wrote...

D34dw4lk3r wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

D34dw4lk3r wrote...

DA 2 needs only a 7 GB of your disk drive. DA Origins with expansion and all DLC packs takes more than 20 GB. I think a answer is obvious.

That you're overreacting?

No, I'm just realistic. Ok, maybe a compression method is better and so on, but I'm sure that DA 2 will not have about 100 hours of gameplay. More like about 30-40, as ME2.

Dragon Age:Origins did not have "100 hours of gameplay" out of the box either. Unless of course you truly believe that starting a new game for a different origin (race) and playing it all the way through is somehow adding more content other than the first 30 - 45 minutes that you didn't already see in your first playthrough.  
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My first playthrough of Origins was over 110 hours long. So speak for yourself. 

[Graunt]

Warheadz wrote...

How could you possibly beat Origins in 35 hours? I have had 3 playhtroughs and all of them took about 60 hours. Without DLC. And I didn't exactly waste any time running back and forth.

Honestly?  Because during my first playthrough I was an Arcane Warrior and took Morrigan and Wynne along with me with Leliana as an Archer, despite Archery being awful.  And this was before I had any idea how completely broken not only the AW spec was, but Mages in general.  I played on Hard and even that experience was greatly cheapened by the fact that you could literally skirt close enough to the enemies to see most of them without being detected and then cast Blizzard, Tempest and Inferno.  For any area that had large amounts of enemies like this, especially all of the areas inside of rooms, they were cleared by the time the spells ended.  When you're all offense and almost never needing to heal or use CC it speeds things up considerably.

After that I just knew the areas better and decided to play the game again on Nightmare, but much more melee focused this time around.  I would also skip all of the conversations I've already seen and only watch the new options if any came up.  

Upsettingshorts wrote...
Most of my playthroughs of DAO were around 40-50 hours.  And most of my playthroughs in ME1-2 were 35-45 hours. 

Guess how worried I am about how long DA2 is?  

Precisely.  Also, "replay value" is entirely subjective, but I find a game offering more overall replay value, but being a little shorter in length to be superior to a game that may be twice as long but that you can't bring yourself to play all the way through again for a very long time, if ever.

sevalaricgirl wrote...

Don't count on the
PC visuals to look any better than a "modern console game that came out
in 2008" until texture packs are released.  Origins looked like
something straight out of 2004 - 2005 and was barely above Xbox quality.

Play
it in 3D and you'll definitely see a difference.  Of course it is your
opinion, but I happen to love DAO graphics and think they are quality. 
Bioware was going for look and they were very successful at it.  Now I
own some of those 2004-2005 games which are pixelated, etc, and need
texture packs to make them look good and DAO's graphic quality is much
better than that.  That you didn't like the graphics is fine but there
are many thousands of us who do.

I think it's safe to assume the majority of people who have played the game do not have 3D kits, so that's not a realistic option.  To be fair, I'm sure most RPGS would look better in 3D, so you really need to stick with an apples to apples comparison.  While you may have enjoyed the visuals, they were entirely bland and nothing new.  It's also as you said, Bioware was going for the look they were successful at -- aka not stepping outside of their comfort zone and simply repeating the exact same thing they'd been doing for ten years.  

I was also not as clear as I should have been about my references.  When I said "Xbox quality" I was actually talking about the console versions in terms of graphics -- they were truly dated.  The PC looked better, but still not enough (on Ultra) for even a medium level, single graphics carded modern PC.  I still would not expect the PC version to look any better than a 2008 console until texture packs are released.  Even though "thousands of people" may have "accepted the graphics", Bioware must tend to agree with those who didn't think they were anything special which is why they've already said countless times that they weren't really satisfied with how the game looked overall and that it was a bit too "generic".  While the new look may have a lot of "over the top" scenes, I'd still prefer that if it means it's going to have it's own identity this time.

Modifié par Graunt, 28 décembre 2010 - 01:38 .

[87Lycan]

Does anyone know with warriors are you going to be able to to choose your weapon path as in before; from sword and sheild, duel welding or two handed weapons?

[upsettingshorts]

87Lycan wrote...

Does anyone know with warriors are you going to be able to to choose your weapon path as in before; from sword and sheild, duel welding or two handed weapons?

Sword and shield = Yes
Duel wielding = No
Two-handed weapons = Yes

[uuuhcantthinkofaname]

SSJ5 wrote...

I was wondering if we will see the Grand Oak in the sequel? Even though he made only a small appearance he left quite a bit of an impression on me.

He decided to travel across the map from the brecelien forests to Kirkwall?

The mental image of a talking Oak strolling casualy by the folk of Ferelden while on his travels is kind of amusing.

[stujlaird]

uuuhcantthinkofaname wrote...

SSJ5 wrote...

I was wondering if we will see the Grand Oak in the sequel? Even though he made only a small appearance he left quite a bit of an impression on me.

He decided to travel across the map from the brecelien forests to Kirkwall?

The mental image of a talking Oak strolling casualy by the folk of Ferelden while on his travels is kind of amusing.

What if he only moved when no-one was looking - I have visions of people being sure they saw the tree moving, and dismissed as drunks by their fellows.  

[sevalaricgirl]

I think it's safe to assume the majority of people who have played the game do not have 3D kits, so that's not a realistic option.  To be fair, I'm sure most RPGS would look better in 3D, so you really need to stick with an apples to apples comparison.  While you may have enjoyed the visuals, they were entirely bland and nothing new.  It's also as you said, Bioware was going for the look they were successful at -- aka not stepping outside of their comfort zone and simply repeating the exact same thing they'd been doing for ten years.

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Who needs a 3d kit.  IZ3D and a pair of 5.00 cyan/red glasses and you have 3D.  It cost me all of 4.80.

And again, I am hearing the same complaints about the DA2 graphics that you are complaining about in the DAO graphics.  DAO's muted colors appealed to me but of course I also have a 1920 x 1200 LCD (1080p) and dual ATI graphics cards in my Alienware laptop so it is my opinion that the graphics are very nice.

[Graunt]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

87Lycan wrote...

Does anyone know with warriors are you going to be able to to choose your weapon path as in before; from sword and sheild, duel welding or two handed weapons?

Sword and shield = Yes
Duel wielding = No
Two-handed weapons = Yes

Dual wielding!

sevalaricgirl wrote...
Who needs a 3d kit.  IZ3D and a pair of 5.00 cyan/red glasses and you have 3D.  It cost me all of 4.80.

And
again, I am hearing the same complaints about the DA2 graphics that you
are complaining about in the DAO graphics.  DAO's muted colors appealed
to me but of course I also have a 1920 x 1200 LCD (1080p) and dual ATI
graphics cards in my Alienware laptop so it is my opinion that the
graphics are very nice.

I just built a new, moderately high end computer last fall so it's not an issue of power.  When you mention 3D, I'm thinking about proper 3D on a PC, not just blurry red/blue screens that sort of work.  

The graphics were "ok" by default, but they were greatly improved with texture packs.  But it wasn't even the textures that caused the world to look so bland.  Bioware didn't actually create much of anything that had a unique look.  The closest to originality would have been Orzammar, but even that just looked like a reskinned Mine of Moria.  Everything about the Dragon Age setting was cliche and had already been sound a thousand times before in virtually every other RPG.  

The problem wasn't the writing -- it was fine and created a believable enough backdrop, it was that nothing looked inspired artistically and the color platelet was ultra bland and mostly earth tones.  Did you play NWN or NWN2?  Dragon Age looked almost exactly like that game with just better textures.  They tried to improve that with Awakening.  I think it was definitely a step up in atmosphere at least.

Modifié par Graunt, 29 décembre 2010 - 01:15 .

[Sharn01]

Graunt wrote...

Upsettingshorts wrote...

87Lycan wrote...

Does anyone know with warriors are you going to be able to to choose your weapon path as in before; from sword and sheild, duel welding or two handed weapons?

Sword and shield = Yes
Duel wielding = No
Two-handed weapons = Yes

Dual wielding!

Chill maybe, its commonly misspelled, forums are supposed to be a relaxed place for people to talk and debate, I really dont think spell check is necessary.

[upsettingshorts]

Yeah, I know - I blame myself for just copying the spelling in the quote and not correcting it myself. Off to hang my head in shame.

[Graunt]

Sharn01 wrote...
Chill maybe, its commonly misspelled, forums are supposed to be a relaxed place for people to talk and debate, I really dont think spell check is necessary.

It's one of the most misused words on the internet and a peeve of mine.  Thanks for the lecture though; it's not like you were trying to correct me on something you thought was wrong or anything. <_<

Modifié par Graunt, 29 décembre 2010 - 08:13 .