SirOccam wrote...
Got a link by chance?kylecouch wrote...
sorry to disapoint...Bioware has already confirmed the sibling thing. If you make a warrior or rogue then Carver dies, if you make a mage Bethany dies. It's an unchangeing fact set in stone.
I totally believe it, but I can't add it if I don't also include a link.
kylecouch wrote...
sorry to disapoint...Bioware has already confirmed the sibling thing. If you make a warrior or rogue then Carver dies, if you make a mage Bethany dies. It's an unchangeing fact set in stone. Also Gaider said Flemeth looked like a crippled old woman on purpose to try to get the Warden's sympathy or whatever her reasons were. The point is she looks different to different people on purpose for different reasons.
That is indeed something to ponder, it is also interesteing to think about how killing Flemeth in DAO might affect her in DA2. Because Hawke meets Flemeth before the Warden has the chance to kill her. So if you kill Flemeth you might change something about the rest of the game.da0Xeffect wrote...
kylecouch wrote...
sorry to disapoint...Bioware has already confirmed the sibling thing. If you make a warrior or rogue then Carver dies, if you make a mage Bethany dies. It's an unchangeing fact set in stone. Also Gaider said Flemeth looked like a crippled old woman on purpose to try to get the Warden's sympathy or whatever her reasons were. The point is she looks different to different people on purpose for different reasons.
That's interesting about Flemeth. I wonder if Morrigan knows this or maybe Flemeth has her under a spell where she is completely oblivious to it. I know Morrigan is this strong willed and very hard to fool but Flemeth basically made her.
kylecouch wrote...
That is indeed something to ponder, it is also interesteing to think about how killing Flemeth in DAO might affect her in DA2. Because Hawke meets Flemeth before the Warden has the chance to kill her. So if you kill Flemeth you might change something about the rest of the game.da0Xeffect wrote...
kylecouch wrote...
sorry to disapoint...Bioware has already confirmed the sibling thing. If you make a warrior or rogue then Carver dies, if you make a mage Bethany dies. It's an unchangeing fact set in stone. Also Gaider said Flemeth looked like a crippled old woman on purpose to try to get the Warden's sympathy or whatever her reasons were. The point is she looks different to different people on purpose for different reasons.
That's interesting about Flemeth. I wonder if Morrigan knows this or maybe Flemeth has her under a spell where she is completely oblivious to it. I know Morrigan is this strong willed and very hard to fool but Flemeth basically made her.
Gaider said Flemeth looked like a crippled old woman on purpose to try to get the Warden's sympathy or whatever her reasons were. The point is she looks different to different people on purpose for different reasons.HTTP 404 wrote...
kylecouch wrote...
That is indeed something to ponder, it is also interesteing to think about how killing Flemeth in DAO might affect her in DA2. Because Hawke meets Flemeth before the Warden has the chance to kill her. So if you kill Flemeth you might change something about the rest of the game.da0Xeffect wrote...
kylecouch wrote...
sorry to disapoint...Bioware has already confirmed the sibling thing. If you make a warrior or rogue then Carver dies, if you make a mage Bethany dies. It's an unchangeing fact set in stone. Also Gaider said Flemeth looked like a crippled old woman on purpose to try to get the Warden's sympathy or whatever her reasons were. The point is she looks different to different people on purpose for different reasons.
That's interesting about Flemeth. I wonder if Morrigan knows this or maybe Flemeth has her under a spell where she is completely oblivious to it. I know Morrigan is this strong willed and very hard to fool but Flemeth basically made her.
Technically it appears that Flemeth actually never dies, even if you "kill" her. I want it so that if you did "kill" her in DA:O she will appear younger in DA2. If you let her live she will be her old self in DA2.
Ah, but they just say you "get" Carver if you're a mage and Bethany if you're a warrior or rogue. They don't say what happens to the one you don't "get."kylecouch wrote...
SirOccam wrote...
Got a link by chance?kylecouch wrote...
sorry to disapoint...Bioware has already confirmed the sibling thing. If you make a warrior or rogue then Carver dies, if you make a mage Bethany dies. It's an unchangeing fact set in stone.
I totally believe it, but I can't add it if I don't also include a link.
http://social.biowar...&lf=8/1#5515076
Modifié par schalafi, 29 janvier 2011 - 04:38 .
schalafi wrote...
This Flemeth thing is messing up my head. It's like the old story about if you time travel to the past and kill a butterfly, it will affect the future. But in Origin's Flemeth was killed in what would be the first part of DA2's present, which is the same as Origin's present... so how does she remain alive in their future? Oh I know, I'm trying to impose logic in a fantasy, which is impossible, but to carry this a little further, maybe the answer is that Flemeth found Morrigan and absorbed her. ; - )
Count Viceroy wrote...
schalafi wrote...
This Flemeth thing is messing up my head. It's like the old story about if you time travel to the past and kill a butterfly, it will affect the future. But in Origin's Flemeth was killed in what would be the first part of DA2's present, which is the same as Origin's present... so how does she remain alive in their future? Oh I know, I'm trying to impose logic in a fantasy, which is impossible, but to carry this a little further, maybe the answer is that Flemeth found Morrigan and absorbed her. ; - )
Flemeth was never killed, her (current) physical form was. The DA2 prologue takes place while DAO is happening, Then it jumps forward a year, DAO is already complete, and flemmeth has had enough time to gain a body again and is free to run around and cause as much havoc as possible.
schalafi wrote...
Except that in Origins, Morrigan said it would take Flemeth a long time to find a new host, maybe years, so who was Flemeth's new host barely a year later?
Modifié par Count Viceroy, 29 janvier 2011 - 04:42 .
schalafi wrote...
Count Viceroy wrote...
schalafi wrote...
This Flemeth thing is messing up my head. It's like the old story about if you time travel to the past and kill a butterfly, it will affect the future. But in Origin's Flemeth was killed in what would be the first part of DA2's present, which is the same as Origin's present... so how does she remain alive in their future? Oh I know, I'm trying to impose logic in a fantasy, which is impossible, but to carry this a little further, maybe the answer is that Flemeth found Morrigan and absorbed her. ; - )
Flemeth was never killed, her (current) physical form was. The DA2 prologue takes place while DAO is happening, Then it jumps forward a year, DAO is already complete, and flemmeth has had enough time to gain a body again and is free to run around and cause as much havoc as possible.
Except that in Origins, Morrigan said it would take Flemeth a long time to find a new host, maybe years, so who was Flemeth's new host barely a year later?
Modifié par KhorinShizucor, 29 janvier 2011 - 05:21 .
Nothing earth-shattering, but there are a few minor bits and pieces that can be added. I'm waiting until the 1st of February, though, for two reasons:Rimfrost wrote...
This thread is getting long but I was hoping for another update to the first post. Surley we must know more now then at Jan 14th?
SirOccam wrote...
1. That is the "mystery date" and something is going to happen.
2. That's when I start my DA2 media blackout. So an update on that day will be as up-to-date as possible, because after that, I'll be (hopefully) staying away from the forums until the game is released. I want at least one companion to be unknown when I play the game, among other things.
Modifié par wulfsturm, 29 janvier 2011 - 06:39 .
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SirOccam wrote...
Ah, but they just say you "get" Carver if you're a mage and Bethany if you're a warrior or rogue. They don't say what happens to the one you don't "get."kylecouch wrote...
SirOccam wrote...
Got a link by chance?kylecouch wrote...
sorry to disapoint...Bioware has already confirmed the sibling thing. If you make a warrior or rogue then Carver dies, if you make a mage Bethany dies. It's an unchangeing fact set in stone.
I totally believe it, but I can't add it if I don't also include a link.
http://social.biowar...&lf=8/1#5515076
Like I said I totally believe they die. After seeing Carver die in the PAX demo I don't see them doing anything beyond putting Bethany in his place for those who play mages. But I got called out (and rightfully so) for putting the death of the other sibling in the list. They haven't (to my knowledge) actually explicitly said that there is no way to prevent the death of the other sibling. Theoretically, they could make a way to save them but not have them join you, without contradicting what they said there.
Riosred wrote...
Mystery date?? So you think they will announce more??
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