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[TheRevanchist]

Evewyn wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

sorry to disapoint...Bioware has already confirmed the sibling thing. If you make a warrior or rogue then Carver dies, if you make a mage Bethany dies. It's an unchangeing fact set in stone.

Got a link by chance?

I totally believe it, but I can't add it if I don't also include a link.

http://social.biowar...&lf=8/1#5515076

Ah, but they just say you "get" Carver if you're a mage and Bethany if you're a warrior or rogue. They don't say what happens to the one you don't "get."

Like I said I totally believe they die. After seeing Carver die in the PAX demo I don't see them doing anything beyond putting Bethany in his place for those who play mages. But I got called out (and rightfully so) for putting the death of the other sibling in the list. They haven't (to my knowledge) actually explicitly said that there is no way to prevent the death of the other sibling. Theoretically, they could make a way to save them but not have them join you, without contradicting what they said there.

This whole thing has really been bothering me ever since they announced it, especially when they said that Hawke's family is extremely important to the plot of DAII.  Why actually kill off a sibling if that's the case?  Furthermore, it seems like a waste of time and money to have to completely voice two different characters for the entire game when one of them supposedly dies.  I'm having trouble believing it, even though it has apparently been confirmed as such.  I suppose the dead sibling could still have an impact later on in the game in some way...  I guess we'll have to wait and see.  Quite frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if they do both survive and this was all just a trick.  The devs are sneaky like that.  

It's not a waste because they are both fully realized companions. They are simply class restricted.

[SirOccam]

Evewyn wrote...

This whole thing has really been bothering me ever since they announced it, especially when they said that Hawke's family is extremely important to the plot of DAII.  Why actually kill off a sibling if that's the case?  Furthermore, it seems like a waste of time and money to have to completely voice two different characters for the entire game when one of them supposedly dies.  I'm having trouble believing it, even though it has apparently been confirmed as such.

Actually it hasn't been confirmed. It seems extremely likely, but they haven't come out and said it (as far as I know).

As for why they'd kill off a sibling...well they didn't have to. They could have had only one sibling who survives no matter what. I recall a thread in which Gaider when into some depth on the topic. I wonder if that might actually contain a quote that can be cited as proof. Hmm. *goes off to search for it*

Riosred wrote...

Isn't that the facebook game and isn't it aready out?

It's in closed beta still.

[Riosred]

So why do we think anything will happen feb 1? Why is it a special date?

[SirOccam]

Riosred wrote...

So why do we think anything will happen feb 1? Why is it a special date?

Because Awakening came with a little card in the case that had the blood dragon and the date 2/1/2011 and nothing else.

[Benlal]

Riosred wrote...

So why do we think anything will happen feb 1? Why is it a special date?

February 1 is the fereldan April Fool's ... It's a trap (!).

[Riosred]

Oh, I had heard that was their original release date that had since been changed to mar. 8?

[SirOccam]

Riosred wrote...

Oh, I had heard that was their original release date that had since been changed to mar. 8?

That was one of the theories. Some people thought it might also be something to do with the anime. Now it's looking more like Legends, but who knows.

[Blacklash93]

Seeing as Feb. 1 is a Tuesday, I'd bet it was the original release date of DA2.

[Silas7]

I tried a few searches but couldn't anything on weather or not we can change Hawkes face?

[Gerudan]

Disapointment wrote...

I tried a few searches but couldn't anything on weather or not we can change Hawkes face?

Its just like in ME. You can either make a Hawke with the custome face or create a new face, but you can't change the custome face. 

[Redhawkdown]

Evewyn wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

sorry to disapoint...Bioware has already confirmed the sibling thing. If you make a warrior or rogue then Carver dies, if you make a mage Bethany dies. It's an unchangeing fact set in stone.

Got a link by chance?

I totally believe it, but I can't add it if I don't also include a link.

http://social.biowar...&lf=8/1#5515076

Ah, but they just say you "get" Carver if you're a mage and Bethany if you're a warrior or rogue. They don't say what happens to the one you don't "get."

Like I said I totally believe they die. After seeing Carver die in the PAX demo I don't see them doing anything beyond putting Bethany in his place for those who play mages. But I got called out (and rightfully so) for putting the death of the other sibling in the list. They haven't (to my knowledge) actually explicitly said that there is no way to prevent the death of the other sibling. Theoretically, they could make a way to save them but not have them join you, without contradicting what they said there.

This whole thing has really been bothering me ever since they announced it, especially when they said that Hawke's family is extremely important to the plot of DAII.  Why actually kill off a sibling if that's the case?  Furthermore, it seems like a waste of time and money to have to completely voice two different characters for the entire game when one of them supposedly dies.  I'm having trouble believing it, even though it has apparently been confirmed as such.  I suppose the dead sibling could still have an impact later on in the game in some way...  I guess we'll have to wait and see.  Quite frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if they do both survive and this was all just a trick.  The devs are sneaky like that.  

Ok, let me ask you this. Why waste time and money creating 6 different fully-voiced origins in DA:O?

[TheRevanchist]

Redhawkdown wrote...

Ok, let me ask you this. Why waste time and money creating 6 different fully-voiced origins in DA:O?

Um...variety?

[Milkinator]

Thanks for all the info

[upsettingshorts]

kylecouch wrote...

Um...variety?

That more or less vanishes after 45 minutes.

Modifié par Upsettingshorts, 30 janvier 2011 - 05:21 .

[Redhawkdown]

kylecouch wrote...

Redhawkdown wrote...

Ok, let me ask you this. Why waste time and money creating 6 different fully-voiced origins in DA:O?

Um...variety?

The answer i was looking for is actually replayability, but i agree more or less..


I was trying to respond to Evewyn's complain regarding the fact that  you can only  either Bethany or Carver not both as a companion based on your class.

Instead of looking it as ;Bioware has stripped you of one possible companion. Think of it as a way to make your playthrough either as a mage or non mage non-identical to each other.

Modifié par Redhawkdown, 30 janvier 2011 - 05:43 .

[raziel3080]

Redhawkdown wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Redhawkdown wrote...

Ok, let me ask you this. Why waste time and money creating 6 different fully-voiced origins in DA:O?

Um...variety?

The answer i was looking for is actually replayability, but i agree more or less..


I was trying to respond to Evewyn's complain regarding the fact that  you can only  either Bethany or Carver not both as a companion based on your class.

Instead of looking it as ;Bioware has stripped you of one possible companion. Think of it as a way to make your playthrough either as a mage or non mage non-identical to each other.

This is also part of my issue with the sibling being dependant upon the class you choose...as that means for me...that 2 outa of every 3 playthroughs Bethany will be in my party as opposed to Carver...though that's not a problem with me as she is whom I would want with me anyway from a visually appealing standpoint(as a man, I say this)...

[Doyle41]

Will there be conversation interupts like in Mass Effect 2?

Modifié par Doyle41, 31 janvier 2011 - 02:53 .

[Shifty Assassin]

No i dont think so only the conversation wheel

[Redhawkdown]

raziel3080 wrote...

Redhawkdown wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Redhawkdown wrote...

Ok, let me ask you this. Why waste time and money creating 6 different fully-voiced origins in DA:O?

Um...variety?

The answer i was looking for is actually replayability, but i agree more or less..


I was trying to respond to Evewyn's complain regarding the fact that  you can only  either Bethany or Carver not both as a companion based on your class.

Instead of looking it as ;Bioware has stripped you of one possible companion. Think of it as a way to make your playthrough either as a mage or non mage non-identical to each other.

This is also part of my issue with the sibling being dependant upon the class you choose...as that means for me...that 2 outa of every 3 playthroughs Bethany will be in my party as opposed to Carver...though that's not a problem with me as she is whom I would want with me anyway from a visually appealing standpoint(as a man, I say this)...

I suppose thats true. But then again the party is more balanced this way.
Im guessing from a storytelling PoV if your character is a non mage you will act the protective older brother/sister towards Bethany protecting her from templar scrutiny.
While if you re a Mage Carver would be the subservant little brother but has a slight "you brought this upon us by being a mage" mentality going on.

[raziel3080]

Redhawkdown wrote...

raziel3080 wrote...

Redhawkdown wrote...

kylecouch wrote...

Redhawkdown wrote...

Ok, let me ask you this. Why waste time and money creating 6 different fully-voiced origins in DA:O?

Um...variety?

The answer i was looking for is actually replayability, but i agree more or less..


I was trying to respond to Evewyn's complain regarding the fact that  you can only  either Bethany or Carver not both as a companion based on your class.

Instead of looking it as ;Bioware has stripped you of one possible companion. Think of it as a way to make your playthrough either as a mage or non mage non-identical to each other.

This is also part of my issue with the sibling being dependant upon the class you choose...as that means for me...that 2 outa of every 3 playthroughs Bethany will be in my party as opposed to Carver...though that's not a problem with me as she is whom I would want with me anyway from a visually appealing standpoint(as a man, I say this)...

I suppose thats true. But then again the party is more balanced this way.
Im guessing from a storytelling PoV if your character is a non mage you will act the protective older brother/sister towards Bethany protecting her from templar scrutiny.
While if you re a Mage Carver would be the subservant little brother but has a slight "you brought this upon us by being a mage" mentality going on.

That's exactly how it's promoted from the most recently released dev diary...atleast judgng from the clip of dialog that wnet on between carver and hawke...

[jhnxsmth]

I was going to post something on topic, until someone asked about the dialogue wheel. That is the single BIGGEST detriment to re-playability, having to sift through every un-readable, fully-voiced line of VO in the friggin game.



If there is a toolset, and there is a way to modify dialogue to play out differently, I will be there, developing that mod, the 1ST day I get the game.



If I have to start the entire game over to see a different companion -like, at all-, then I'd definitely want to speed through allot stuff the second time around.



This combination of SLOW + Replay-Focus does not sit well with me.

[VampOrchid]

On the subject about Flemeth, I think maybe something to do about Morrigan's 'sisters' might be related to the topic. Maybe Flemeth took over one of their bodies, or something along those lines. I don't think the story about the sisters would have been put in there if it wasn't important.

[VampOrchid]

I personally want to know what that templar chick is interrogating Varric. That's curious to me. Sure she wants to know more about hawk, but why?

[wulfsturm]

VampOrchid wrote...

I personally want to know what that templar chick is interrogating Varric. That's curious to me. Sure she wants to know more about hawk, but why?

That would be dear old Cassandra:

dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Cassandra