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[Arrtis]

LPPrince wrote...

Mike Hawke will call upon his power. Just watch.

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[SirOccam]

Arttis wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

Arttis wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

How could anyone possibly know for sure?

How am i suppose to know?I am just asking the question.

Repeatedly. Incessantly, you might say.

Do not understand.

Okay. What I mean is, I'm browsing the forums and I read a thread called "Is it possible to solo DA2?". In this thread, the question is asked and re-asked and bumped several times. The answer that is just about the best possible answer you can get at this point ("probably") is given.

Then in this thread, it is asked again moments later, along with this:

"*sigh*

Its almost no longer worth looking at DA2 forum now."

And in another thread, something about "not liking the devs right now," which I can only presume is related.

So when I asked how anyone could possibly know the answer, I was attempting to figure out your hopes for this question. Do you want someone to say definitively "yes"  or "no?" Because no one apart from a dev can reliably do that, and even then I recall seeing a discussion about how even the devs' answers on the subject were unreliable in the past.

So I guess I just don't know what you want us to say. If I knew, I would say it.

Modifié par SirOccam, 12 juillet 2010 - 05:10 .

[Arrtis]

SirOccam wrote...

Arttis wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

Arttis wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

How could anyone possibly know for sure?

How am i suppose to know?I am just asking the question.

Repeatedly. Incessantly, you might say.

Do not understand.

Okay. What I mean is, I'm browsing the forums and I read a thread called "Is it possible to solo DA2?". In this thread, the question is asked and re-asked and bumped several times. The answer that is just about the best possible answer you can get at this point ("probably") is given.

Then in this thread, it is asked again moments later, along with this:

"*sigh*

Its almost no longer worth looking at DA2 forum now."

And in another thread, something about "not liking the devs right now," which I can only presume is related.

So when I asked how anyone could possibly know the answer, I was attempting to figure out your hopes for this question. Do you want someone to say definitively "yes"  or "no?" Because no one apart from a dev can reliably do that, and even then I recall seeing a discussion about how even the devs' answers on the subject were unreliable in the past.

So I guess I just don't know what you want us to say. If I knew, I would say it.

Do not bother not much point.

[atheelogos]

I heard a rumor that Hawke could be a Grey Warden. I asked David if this was true and he said "no"
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[SirOccam]

Arrtis wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

Arttis wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

Arttis wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

How could anyone possibly know for sure?

How am i suppose to know?I am just asking the question.

Repeatedly. Incessantly, you might say.

Do not understand.

Okay. What I mean is, I'm browsing the forums and I read a thread called "Is it possible to solo DA2?". In this thread, the question is asked and re-asked and bumped several times. The answer that is just about the best possible answer you can get at this point ("probably") is given.

Then in this thread, it is asked again moments later, along with this:

"*sigh*

Its almost no longer worth looking at DA2 forum now."

And in another thread, something about "not liking the devs right now," which I can only presume is related.

So when I asked how anyone could possibly know the answer, I was attempting to figure out your hopes for this question. Do you want someone to say definitively "yes"  or "no?" Because no one apart from a dev can reliably do that, and even then I recall seeing a discussion about how even the devs' answers on the subject were unreliable in the past.

So I guess I just don't know what you want us to say. If I knew, I would say it.

Do not bother not much point.

*sigh*

Yes, I am slowly coming to that conclusion myself.

[Arrtis]

Learning is not always fun/.

[Wowlock]

Arrtis wrote...

Learning is not always fun/.

Depends on what you are learning  !

[Arttis]

SirOccam wrote...

Arttis wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

Arttis wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

How could anyone possibly know for sure?

How am i suppose to know?I am just asking the question.

Repeatedly. Incessantly, you might say.

Do not understand.

Okay. What I mean is, I'm browsing the forums and I read a thread called "Is it possible to solo DA2?". In this thread, the question is asked and re-asked and bumped several times. The answer that is just about the best possible answer you can get at this point ("probably") is given.

Then in this thread, it is asked again moments later, along with this:

"*sigh*

Its almost no longer worth looking at DA2 forum now."

And in another thread, something about "not liking the devs right now," which I can only presume is related.

So when I asked how anyone could possibly know the answer, I was attempting to figure out your hopes for this question. Do you want someone to say definitively "yes"  or "no?" Because no one apart from a dev can reliably do that, and even then I recall seeing a discussion about how even the devs' answers on the subject were unreliable in the past.

So I guess I just don't know what you want us to say. If I knew, I would say it.

THe OP has the question whether or nto we can leave our companions at camp and if we are forced to take some along.These were some of my concerns when DAO was coming out and now the same concerns come up now.

[wwwwowwww]

What do I know so far? hmmmmmmmmmmmm........... oh oh oh, I know that many people are jumping to conclusions about a game that has had very little about it being released and others are condeming the game already just because they disagree with the vague info they've received thus far.

[Arttis]

wwwwowwww wrote...

What do I know so far? hmmmmmmmmmmmm........... oh oh oh, I know that many people are jumping to conclusions about a game that has had very little about it being released and others are condeming the game already just because they disagree with the vague info they've received thus far.

well the topic says we.
Also they have reasons.
Not everyone is jumping to conclusions.

[wwwwowwww]

Arttis wrote...

wwwwowwww wrote...

What do I know so far? hmmmmmmmmmmmm........... oh oh oh, I know that many people are jumping to conclusions about a game that has had very little about it being released and others are condeming the game already just because they disagree with the vague info they've received thus far.

well the topic says we.
Also they have reasons.
Not everyone is jumping to conclusions.

We entails me, so I stated I

Reasons? Really? I'd love to hear the reasons considering about a page of info has actually been released about the game.  Not to mention reasons would = you having something to complain or applaud about. Jumping to conclusions = not having all the information and beginning to make assumptions about something you don't fully understand.

[Arttis]

well dialogue wheel people are not happy about because they enjoy reading the entire thing.

We means more than just you.

They may not seem signifigant to you but for some people it will greatly effect how they play the game.

[wwwwowwww]

Arttis wrote...

well dialogue wheel people are not happy about because they enjoy reading the entire thing.
We means more than just you.
They may not seem signifigant to you but for some people it will greatly effect how they play the game.

You are correct we means more than just me, but it does mean that I am entitled to my say does it not? It does "include" me as I stated before.


I know what people are unhappy about, but it has been stated several times over that the DA:2 wheel while similar is different than the ME wheel.

From another thread:

David Gaider

I would suggest that you wait to hear exactly what our approach is
before trying to figure out whether it's what you're interested in or
not.


People appear to be acting as if the scant details
we've revealed are all they'll ever learn about the game ever, and
they're thus required to render judgment immediately.



You're
really not. You might, in fact, want to see exactly how we're
implementing these features you dislike and seeing for yourself whether
they differ from, say, Mass Effect's. There are similarities, of course,
but there are also differences... and to assume you know everything
about how the game is going to feel based off the most cursory of
information is just going to make you look foolish.



Perhaps
in the end DA2 won't be for you after all. That's fair. You should be
able to judge prior to actually playing it-- there will be information
galore available prior to its release, I'm sure. But if you want to have
questions asking the "why" regarding our approach taken seriously, it
might be sensible to wait and see what that approach is first.

[Arttis]

Whats your point?

[wwwwowwww]

Arttis wrote...

Whats your point?

What is yours?

I simply said that I know everyone is jumping to conclusions. Your the one that started in on me. You said theire were reasons. Obviously there are no reasons. People are still jumping to conclusions and making assumptions and I know that much.

Since I have now shared it with the collective as a whole, WE  now know that everyone is jumping to conclusions about the game.

[17thknight]

Arttis wrote...

Whats your point?

She/he doesn't have one. Just blindly defending the game despite very real and well-spoken concerns. People are going to defend this game to the death, no matter what happens to it.

[Arttis]

Reason being no origins.This is fact.People loved Origins while some did not.You claim people are just jumping to conclusions.I will say this I played the Origin stories many times.I liked them.Taking them out means less replayability for me.Thus I dislike the new game a little bit more.

There reason and no jumping to wild conclusions.

[angelgaidin]

17thknight wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Whats your point?

She/he doesn't have one. Just blindly defending the game despite very real and well-spoken concerns. People are going to defend this game to the death, no matter what happens to it.

Obvious troll is obvious.  She directly quoted a developer in defense of her stance, and you're disregarding it.  I find it hard to believe that you're more intimate with what's going to be in the game than the lead writer.

[LPPrince]

17thknight wrote...

Arttis wrote...

Whats your point?

She/he doesn't have one. Just blindly defending the game despite very real and well-spoken concerns. People are going to defend this game to the death, no matter what happens to it.

What was done was a list of quotes that actually made SENSE from the devs was posted.

That's not defending the game. That's a suggestion that instead of slandering it or being incredibly worried, maybe the masses should wait to have more than 5 sentences before the judge the final product.

[Riona45]

17thknight wrote...


She/he doesn't have one. Just blindly defending the game despite very real and well-spoken concerns.

And that statement was completely civil and treated that poster with all the respect you say you'd like to have.

[Arttis]

*sigh* the overreaction of the Overreaction is getting boring.

[17thknight]

LPPrince wrote...

What was done was a list of quotes that actually made SENSE from the devs was posted.

That's not defending the game. That's a suggestion that instead of slandering it or being incredibly worried, maybe the masses should wait to have more than 5 sentences before the judge the final product.

Saying "you can't question us until the game is done" is a logical fallacy.

They have already and explicitly listed numerous things that are real concerns and gripes.
1. No origins.
2. Forced to play as "Hawke"
3. The godawful dialogue wheel from ME
4. No alternate races

Complaining about these things, for the numerous reasons that have been listed throughout this forum site, isn't wrong simply because "the game isn't finished". What level of completion will make someone want to play as "Hawke" if they simply do not want to play as "Hawke"?  None. There is no point in the development of the game where this will become more appealing.

It's as if someone disliked that the game was in a fantasy world and you said that they should wait until it's more finished or they have more information. No further amount of information will make the idea more palletable to someone who dislikes the basic notion.

[Riona45]

Arttis wrote...

*sigh* the overreaction of the Overreaction is getting boring.

I guess you'll just have to be bored then.  LOL!

[angelgaidin]

Then go play another game. Clearly there's nothing that can be said that will shake your iron will from not enjoying this game. So why are you sticking around?

[wwwwowwww]

Arttis wrote...

Reason being no origins.This is fact.People loved Origins while some did not.You claim people are just jumping to conclusions.I will say this I played the Origin stories many times.I liked them.Taking them out means less replayability for me.Thus I dislike the new game a little bit more.
There reason and no jumping to wild conclusions.

If you have reasons then your have complaints or your applauding the game. I have no problems with that.

It's all the wild assumptions people are coming up with that I am referring too.