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[Virginian]

DespiertaLosNinos wrote...

We know, through the reliable forum members, that this game will be the anti-christ and bring civilization to absolute ruin.....it will likely also make you sterile

If the game makes you sterile, what happens if you are already sterile? Does it shrivel up your family jewels until they dissappear? Do they fall off?

[Aggie Punbot]

It re-fertilizes you and then sterilizes you.

[TheSeeker2654]

Does anyone know if the Tactics system is returning for DA2? I mean that was huge from a tactical standpoint. You can customize your AI routines so that each party member reacts to given situations just as you want them to.. without having to switch over to them and control them directly. And you can change up different sets of routines to fit any given situation. I LOVED the system and really hope they dont ditch it so that players arent spending so much time in the menu.



I mean it IS an rpg. The menu is a big part of it. Please Bioware, bring back the tactics system.

[saMoorai]

Cypher0020 wrote...

hmmmm....story told through narrative style?

uhh...so if DA2 is a giant flashback...with companions tellingt he story....

o.o something bad happen to Hawke? Why isn't he/she retelling the events?

hes To Busy Gromming his Beard

[bcooper56]

Facts so far.



-It's console game now

[Lord_Saulot]

TheSeeker2654 wrote...

Does anyone know if the Tactics system is returning for DA2? I mean that was huge from a tactical standpoint. You can customize your AI routines so that each party member reacts to given situations just as you want them to.. without having to switch over to them and control them directly. And you can change up different sets of routines to fit any given situation. I LOVED the system and really hope they dont ditch it so that players arent spending so much time in the menu.

I mean it IS an rpg. The menu is a big part of it. Please Bioware, bring back the tactics system.

I forget who, but one of the Bioware people said that the Tactics system was on the development teams' favorite aspects and that they would be working to do it justice in DA2.

[Virginian]

Whatever defaulted in the tactics system is what I used I never bothered with it.



So meh, update it, get rid of it, leave it exactly the same doesn't matter to me.

[Lintanis]

Maniac600 wrote...

Polemists05 wrote...

I wonder if or who they will get as far as famous voice actors go. I know DAO had some big names as did ME 2, hopefully Bioware can wrangle some very talented vo names for DA 2.

If they're going to take the time and effort to voice the main character, they may as well do it right.

been said in another thread that they have the people to do the voices for male and female hawke 

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/141/index/3106040%26lf%3D8#3141281

Modifié par Lintanis, 16 juillet 2010 - 03:48 .

[TheSeeker2654]

Virginian wrote...

Whatever defaulted in the tactics system is what I used I never bothered with it.

So meh, update it, get rid of it, leave it exactly the same doesn't matter to me.

Im surprised you even play RPG's.. Sounds like they arent even your thing. I mean, if you dont even bother to customize your squads behaviors... why not just play a shooter?

Lord_Saulot wrote...

TheSeeker2654 wrote...

Does anyone know if the Tactics system is returning for DA2? I mean that was huge from a tactical standpoint. You can customize your AI routines so that each party member reacts to given situations just as you want them to.. without having to switch over to them and control them directly. And you can change up different sets of routines to fit any given situation. I LOVED the system and really hope they dont ditch it so that players arent spending so much time in the menu.

I mean it IS an rpg. The menu is a big part of it. Please Bioware, bring back the tactics system.

I forget who, but one of the Bioware people said that the Tactics system was on the development teams' favorite aspects and that they would be working to do it justice in DA2.

This is AWESOME news thanks. Hopefully the same level of customizability. I mean, you could literaly customize your guys to be able to tackle almost any situation. Really great system.

Modifié par TheSeeker2654, 16 juillet 2010 - 04:38 .

[DarkSpiral]

TheSeeker2654 wrote...
Im surprised you even play RPG's.. Sounds like they arent even your thing. I mean, if you dont even bother to customize your squads behaviors... why not just play a shooter?

The tactics system, as presented in DA:O is a very recent development.  Older RPGs tended to have either lousy AI, or you micro-managed your party.  Usually the latter.

I personally hope they give us more tactic slots earlier.  I usually commanded specfic actions from the party memebers, rather than automate them, but I didn't have any problem automatic things like spell combos (if X enemy is suffering Y status, cast Z spell) or drinking potions/using poltices.

Also, topic is sticky again.  Win!

Modifié par DarkSpiral, 16 juillet 2010 - 06:46 .

[TheSeeker2654]

DarkSpiral wrote...

TheSeeker2654 wrote...
Im surprised you even play RPG's.. Sounds like they arent even your thing. I mean, if you dont even bother to customize your squads behaviors... why not just play a shooter?

The tactics system, as presented in DA:O is a very recent development.  Older RPGs tended to have either lousy AI, or you micro-managed your party.  Usually the latter.

I personally hope they give us more tactic slots earlier.  I usually commanded specfic actions from the party memebers, rather than automate them, but I didn't have any problem automatic things like spell combos (if X enemy is suffering Y status, cast Z spell) or drinking potions/using poltices.

Also, topic is sticky again.  Win!

True, it wasnt super useful until you had a bunch of slots later in the game. But at the least you can setup so they use healing potions and mana/stamina potions at the right times. And also setup like one or two of their most used moves as automated. It wasnt until later in the game when you could pretty much setup an AI Routine and let them have almost complete free reign.

[Saibh]

Huh. You know, since reading the "conversation wheel" thing and the Five Facts I've been feeling very low on this game. I'm glad I read the OP summary because my opinion has been raised immediately. BioWare has never failed me, so I don't think they'll start now. That's my two cents, anyway.

I mean, I see the point of making Hawke one standard character--and unlike Shepard, at least s/he'll have a backstory on which to go on. I'm excited to see Hawke has a sister! So long as we get Jennifer Hale-quality VA, I'm pleased s/he'll have voice. I mean, I'm not so pleased that the number of options Hawke will have in dialogue is going to be reduced greatly, but without a morality meter, perhaps they'll run less like Shepard's "Nice, neutral, d***", and more in a way that makes me okay with picking that bottom-right option.

Also hoping that along with importing saves, the Warden's gender and romance option (assuming we see god-baby I definitely want to see a Morrigan romance continued--as well as the effects of a King/Queen Warden) will be carried through. Here's also hoping we see more character development and friendship with non-romancable party members (I'm looking at you, Wynne).

Well, I don't want to simmer over a game that BioWare isn't going to change because I'm complaining. I'd rather go with it and enjoy it when it comes out.

Modifié par Saibh, 16 juillet 2010 - 07:29 .

[kurairmorgan]

SirOccam wrote...
[*]Bethany is a companion who is a mage and also Hawke's sister.
.

My sisters name is Bethany...I guess that's it, it was meant to be I'll be playing reguardless of whatever else is included.

[Mehow_pwn]

I just hope its not gone be limted... and im very dispointed that the old characs may not be involved in this one or the god child .. since I really loved morrigan and alistair a lot

[SirOccam]

TheSeeker2654 wrote...

Virginian wrote...

Whatever defaulted in the tactics system is what I used I never bothered with it.

So meh, update it, get rid of it, leave it exactly the same doesn't matter to me.

Im surprised you even play RPG's.. Sounds like they arent even your thing. I mean, if you dont even bother to customize your squads behaviors... why not just play a shooter?

RPGs are about way more than tinkering with mechanics.

I also rarely cracked open the tactics menu (except occasionally to disable one or two of the really power-hungry sustained abilities from being used by default). It just wasn't necessary (or interesting, in my opinion). Then again, I rarely put the difficulty above Easy or Casual, because the difficulty of the combat was pretty much irrelevant to me. If I wanted that, THEN I would put in a shooter. I'm in it for the storyline, the choices, the RP.

I don't give a toss for maximizing dps or comparing weapon ratios or customizing tactics or anything like that. For the most part, it made such a small difference in the combat that I found it very difficult to care.

When I hear about people soloing on Nightmare, I'm like...that's nice. But that sort of thing doesn't have any interest for me. I don't think NOT caring about it is any less valid a reason for playing RPGs, though. There is much more to them than min/maxing and numbers and stats.

[SirOccam]

Saibh wrote...

I mean, I see the point of making Hawke one standard character--and unlike Shepard, at least s/he'll have a backstory on which to go on. I'm excited to see Hawke has a sister! So long as we get Jennifer Hale-quality VA, I'm pleased s/he'll have voice. I mean, I'm not so pleased that the number of options Hawke will have in dialogue is going to be reduced greatly, but without a morality meter, perhaps they'll run less like Shepard's "Nice, neutral, d***", and more in a way that makes me okay with picking that bottom-right option.

The wheel can handle 6 choices, and we never got more than 6 choices in DA:O, if I remember correctly.

[saruman85]

SirOccam wrote...

TheSeeker2654 wrote...

Virginian wrote...

Whatever defaulted in the tactics system is what I used I never bothered with it.

So meh, update it, get rid of it, leave it exactly the same doesn't matter to me.

Im surprised you even play RPG's.. Sounds like they arent even your thing. I mean, if you dont even bother to customize your squads behaviors... why not just play a shooter?

RPGs are about way more than tinkering with mechanics.

I also rarely cracked open the tactics menu (except occasionally to disable one or two of the really power-hungry sustained abilities from being used by default). It just wasn't necessary (or interesting, in my opinion). Then again, I rarely put the difficulty above Easy or Casual, because the difficulty of the combat was pretty much irrelevant to me. If I wanted that, THEN I would put in a shooter. I'm in it for the storyline, the choices, the RP.

I don't give a toss for maximizing dps or comparing weapon ratios or customizing tactics or anything like that. For the most part, it made such a small difference in the combat that I found it very difficult to care.

When I hear about people soloing on Nightmare, I'm like...that's nice. But that sort of thing doesn't have any interest for me. I don't think NOT caring about it is any less valid a reason for playing RPGs, though. There is much more to them than min/maxing and numbers and stats.

Well said. I'm exactly the same. But I'm sure you realise we're not the majority - plenty of people love to min/max, even some folks who'd call themselves "hardcore" RPGers.

[SirOccam]

saruman85 wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

TheSeeker2654 wrote...

Virginian wrote...

Whatever defaulted in the tactics system is what I used I never bothered with it.

So meh, update it, get rid of it, leave it exactly the same doesn't matter to me.

Im surprised you even play RPG's.. Sounds like they arent even your thing. I mean, if you dont even bother to customize your squads behaviors... why not just play a shooter?

RPGs are about way more than tinkering with mechanics.

I also rarely cracked open the tactics menu (except occasionally to disable one or two of the really power-hungry sustained abilities from being used by default). It just wasn't necessary (or interesting, in my opinion). Then again, I rarely put the difficulty above Easy or Casual, because the difficulty of the combat was pretty much irrelevant to me. If I wanted that, THEN I would put in a shooter. I'm in it for the storyline, the choices, the RP.

I don't give a toss for maximizing dps or comparing weapon ratios or customizing tactics or anything like that. For the most part, it made such a small difference in the combat that I found it very difficult to care.

When I hear about people soloing on Nightmare, I'm like...that's nice. But that sort of thing doesn't have any interest for me. I don't think NOT caring about it is any less valid a reason for playing RPGs, though. There is much more to them than min/maxing and numbers and stats.

Well said. I'm exactly the same. But I'm sure you realise we're not the majority - plenty of people love to min/max, even some folks who'd call themselves "hardcore" RPGers.

Well I wouldn't assume they're the majority either. Both camps are large, no doubt, and that's exactly what I'm saying. They are both perfectly valid reasons to enjoy RPGs. What I was taking issue with was TheSeeker expressing such shock at the concept of not caring so much about messing around with tactics. As though anyone who didn't enjoy that should have no other reason for playing RPGs.

In my opinion, RPGs were never about the rules and the dice-rolling. Those were necessary in order to support the true spirit of RPGs, which was freedom and choice and imagination. Without them it's just a bunch of people sitting around daydreaming together. But without the freedom and choice and imagination...it's just what? A bunch of people sitting around doing math together?

Modifié par SirOccam, 16 juillet 2010 - 11:08 .

[Bryy_Miller]

I honestly actually hope that they look at what they did with Awakenings so well, which was make Party AI better so that Tactics almost became moot, and improve upon that.

[Ladybright]

Well, we know the dragon lady is Flemeth, as per the GI wallpapers.

http://media1.gamein...lpapers/yyyDA2_Flemeth_1920x1280.jpg

[saruman85]

Ladybright wrote...

Well, we know the dragon lady is Flemeth, as per the GI wallpapers.
http://media1.gamein...lpapers/yyyDA2_Flemeth_1920x1280.jpg

Oh man. Thanks for pointing that out. Does that white hair mean she's still Kate-Mulgrew-old, except in armour? Cos that makes staring at her legs...just wrong...

[Riona45]

SirOccam wrote...
What I was taking issue with was TheSeeker expressing such shock at the concept of not caring so much about messing around with tactics. As though anyone who didn't enjoy that should have no other reason for playing RPGs.

I just want to pipe up and say I agree with you.

I'm so glad Flemeth is back and apparently will have a major role in this game.  She was one of my favorite characters in the first game, and I felt like she didn't get enough screen time there (to my tastes, anyway).  I honestly had mixed feelings about killing her, as a player.

[LPPrince]

Random comment from me, I know, but I wish we got a DA game in the future on CryEngine 3.

Modifié par LPPrince, 17 juillet 2010 - 04:46 .

[Tamyn]

SirOccam wrote...


From German gaming site GameStar [English translation]:



[*]Bethany is a companion who is a mage and also Hawke's sister.

Another female mage lead. Boo.

Cassandra is an "Inquisitor" with an "interest" in Hawke. (Whatever that means)

Future marketing sex object? Taking bets now.

"Dragon age II uses a conversation system similar to mass effect's, where players select paraphrased versions of the dialogue from a wheel. an icon in the middle of the wheel even illustrates the line's basic intent ( like aggressive or sarcastic )"


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


I'll still buy it and play it and likely love it.

Modifié par Tamyn, 17 juillet 2010 - 05:14 .

[Riona45]

Tamyn wrote...



Another female mage lead. Boo.

We don't know that Bethany is a lead.  For all we know she could be a red shirt.

Future marketing sex object? Taking bets now.

Does the Seeker really appear all that sexy to people?  Nothing about her seems inviting, at least not in the concept art.  She is completely armored from the neck down and the look on her face is all business (and perhaps a bit cold).

Modifié par Riona45, 17 juillet 2010 - 05:29 .