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[Arlana Tabris]

ozzzman5 wrote...

Can Hawke be a rogue?

Yes, Hawke can be a rogue, mage or a warrior.

Modifié par Arlana Tabris, 20 juillet 2010 - 05:43 .

[Riona45]

ozzzman5 wrote...

Can Hawke be a rogue?

Yes.

EDIT:  I see someone said it before me. 

Modifié par Riona45, 20 juillet 2010 - 05:55 .

[geekeffect]

…ok, this goes back a couple of pages, sorry…

youjik33 wrote...
I don't particularly WANT a sandbox-type game, personally.

Roger that. I’m not expecting that either. DA2 seems to be following a different narrative structure, since the story is being told in chapters, and we don’t even know if it will be revealed in a sequential order, or how it all will turn out in the end. But I do expect more exploration and a wider feel, especially regarding outside areas. I would only like to see a greater sense of landscape, if you know what I mean.

Biotic Budah wrote...
Ok, as we have seen with Mass Effect 2 this wreaks of EA tampering. While it is still early, I liked playing as different races, now we only have choices of male and female. I hope that they do not lose the soul of this game for the sake of pleasing some ignoramous in a suit at EA's opinion of what the game should be. (…)

Please take these as completely friendly remarks, but I really disagree. I don’t know anything about EA tampering. I have the feel that ME2 went where BioWare wanted to take the series. Some of their choices were right, others were so-so. But I think it was part of their evolving vision of what narrative games are all about.
You may disagree with me, and I respect your opinion. But I think that a lot of people who express disappointment with ME2 also have a much idealized vision of what ME1 was. Don’t get me wrong. ME1 was fabulous, and nothing in ME2 comes close to the feel of awe I had when first visiting the Citadel. That made it for me. But many things in ME1 didn’t really work out in terms of gameplay structure, and you get that as you go through multiple playthroughs. You can enjoy them, I know I did too. But there are all these template areas that make planet exploration not as rewarding as you would expect. And there are breaks in gaming rhythm that come with some problems with inventory management. That sort of thing.
ME2 tried to sort those problems, and BW did make some mistakes as they disregarded the customization (almost) entirely, or had a wrong perception of how people would address planet scanning – and how that could change the rhythm of the game as well. But on the other hand, ME2 had fantastic characters, rich locations – although not that wide – and a great momentum overall. It’s, in my view, a better game, but it lacks some of the things that made ME1 so fascinating.

I think BioWare is evolving with every game they make. DAO is a completely different approach, but also I find people get over-sensitive with some of the improvements/changes already announced. The dialogue wheel, for example. It’s one of BW greatest innovations and inventions in gaming. That being said, I’m also a bit concerned with the lack of multiple races, regarding the potential for multiple playthroughs. I’m confident I will enjoy the game, and if they are really successful, maybe it will be a more enjoyable experience than DAO. But will I replay it as much? That, to me, is the big question hanging over DA2.

[Snelle Jaap]

just a fast one here ...
But will there be Mod Tools/Toolset like DAO ?

(note my search is buggy don't know why)

Modifié par Snelle Jaap, 20 juillet 2010 - 07:26 .

[Fiannawolf]

I wonder what data will be used from our save files for 2. That little piece of info has me interested. Would be fun to see what Lady Hawke thinks of Queen Cousland. Muahahahaha!

[Saibh]

Fiannawolf wrote...

I wonder what data will be used from our save files for 2. That little piece of info has me interested. Would be fun to see what Lady Hawke thinks of Queen Cousland. Muahahahaha!

I'm pretty sure we can bet on the Warden not making an actual speaking appearance, given s/he has no speaking voice or character. Since Awakening always ends with the Warden up and disappearing (occasionally with a love interest), it's doubtful we'll see her/him. Probably plenty of references, and we may even get to find out her/his fate.

Since we know the king/queen of Ferelden is getting ported, I guess it would make sense for the player as King/Queen to get imported as well. I would imagine, if you meet Alistair or Anora, they'll at least mention the Warden.

[lord berwick]

SirOccam, here are a couple of tidbits from the first podcast on DA2 by Mike Laidlaw and Victor Watcher

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• Decisions made in DA:O will show up in future iterations of
  the DA universe.
• Varic is recounting events and decisions Hawke is involved in to Cassandra of the Chantry.  With the world on the brink of war, Cassandra wishes to know more about Hawke and find him/her.

Modifié par lord berwick, 21 juillet 2010 - 05:27 .

[asaiasai]

Very nice OP hats off to you for compiling all this information, but most importantly providing the links where possible.



If it were possible to give you "five" i would but as i can not just hold out your hand and feel the spiritual 5 arrive.



Asai

[mkaka]

Sounds stupid. I am dissapoint

[Biotic Budah]

Mass Effect 2, like I said, more bells and whistles, and they greatly improved on the combat system, but again, to me the story was just not as compelling as ME1. I know they wanted a darker tone, but the story just didn't captivate me like ME1.

One of my gripes for DA2 is that you cannot play as any other race. I liked the aspect of playing as a city elf, or elf in general, that suffers discrimination. Or seeing how the dwarven castes work. Here we have a protagonist whose origin is already set. One origin versus 7 possible origins (I believe) in DAO. To me that is a let down. How would you like it if on ME you could only play as a soldier?

If you played Awakenings and depending on the ending you chose, not to give any spoilers, the Darkspawn were not eradicated, and part of the Grey Wardens credo is Vigilance. There are always Grey Wardens, even when there is no blight. To ignore a group that was so prevalant in the first game just seems like a bad move to me.

There is a lot to live up to from DAO. I think we all invested so much time into these characters that it will be hard for us to just pick up and start over again. ME2 you did not have this problem, and kudos to them for allowing us to import from ME1. I know Hawke is from Lothering, a survivor, my question is what happened to the Sheep herder? I think the uproar over a lack of anything about Morrigan or the child will probably cause them to add something.

I am looking forward to this game, it's Dragon Age, of course I am, I just hope the game does not lose its soul in the sequel. We can all sit and speculate all day, but in the end we won't know till 2011. I am eagerly awaiting the promo videos. I think the crew at Bioware is awesome.

Modifié par Biotic Budah, 21 juillet 2010 - 03:27 .

[mkaka]

DSEIused

Modifié par mkaka, 21 juillet 2010 - 03:38 .

[Riona45]

Biotic Budah wrote...

One origin versus 7 possible origins (I believe) in DAO.

Six.

There are always Grey Wardens, even when there is no blight. To ignore a group that was so prevalant in the first game just seems like a bad move to me.

1)  We don't know that the game is ignoring the Grey Wardens.

2)  Not every PC has to be a Grey Warden, there is more to the setting than just them.

[da_showstoppa]

Biotic Budah wrote...
One of my gripes for DA2 is that you cannot play as any other race. I liked the aspect of playing as a city elf, or elf in general, that suffers discrimination. Or seeing how the dwarven castes work. Here we have a protagonist whose origin is already set. One origin versus 7 possible origins (I believe) in DAO. To me that is a let down. How would you like it if on ME you could only play as a soldier?.

Well to play only as a soldier in ME would be limiting the fighting classes not the origins. I don't think that's a fair comparison in my estimation..

We can tell from the latest Mike Laidlaw podcast that Bioware want to target a wider audience.

Mike Laidlaw, "There ARE people out there who I think, would love to play DAO, would love to dip into the world, would love to explore this rich lore, but  they may not know about the game."

And they aim to attract this audience by introducing the story from a more precise, generic starting point;

Mike Laidlaw,  "What we want to do is make sure that we're presenting the story".

Consider when trying to tell your friends about DA:O. They would ask what's the story about? And what usually
dampens their interest is where you reply, "Well, it depends which origin you choose..."

It (at first) sounds too vague to be worthy of interest...

Not to disregard your point but I think ultimately the odds will justify the means... More time and therefore effort and detail can be put towards telling one origin story. On the other hand this detail and effort was divided in DA:O when attempting to give gamers the option of six origin stories to tell..

Modifié par da_showstoppa, 21 juillet 2010 - 05:44 .

[godslittledude1]

Sounds like a Mass Effect version of Dragon Age, except without space and guns and morality.





... Dragon Effect. Or Mass Age. Or Dragon Mass!

[zuleika]

perishh wrote...

So... How is it a sequal?
No Warden?
No Morrigan ending?
No Morrigan's child?
No return of old favorite characters?
All new adventure?

Anyone else as dissapointed as I am?  I mean They didnt exactly put an ending on the 1st one.
As much as I LOVED the 1st one I'm not exicted about the next

I couldn't agree more. I don't understand how this is a sequel if nothing from the first game which we loved continues into the second? Why not finish the stories in the first game instead of creating lots of new ones (Awakening)? It doesn't look as though I'll be buying Dragon Age 2  Very disappointed because I loved the first game! Played it over and over. x

[Riona45]

zuleika wrote...

I couldn't agree more. I don't understand how this is a sequel if nothing from the first game which we loved continues into the second?

The events that happened in DA:O are important in DA2, it's just that we will use a different protagonist.  It is still a sequel.

[iTomes]

zuleika wrote...

perishh wrote...

So... How is it a sequal?
No Warden?
No Morrigan ending?
No Morrigan's child?
No return of old favorite characters?
All new adventure?

Anyone else as dissapointed as I am?  I mean They didnt exactly put an ending on the 1st one.
As much as I LOVED the 1st one I'm not exicted about the next

I couldn't agree more. I don't understand how this is a sequel if nothing from the first game which we loved continues into the second? Why not finish the stories in the first game instead of creating lots of new ones (Awakening)? It doesn't look as though I'll be buying Dragon Age 2  Very disappointed because I loved the first game! Played it over and over. x

yes it is so frustrating that we arent allowed to continue playing our character like in great sequels as need for speed. and that morrigans ending propably is not canonized is really the worst thing that could've happened. and yes, im also sure that we wont know how the story will go on, i mean how should it, when both games are abut a few centuries away from each other. and that i only can play this hawke guy is horrible... i mean i cant pick my surname anymore. how dare you bioware??

[Davasar]

da_showstoppa wrote...

Consider when trying to tell your friends about DA:O. They would ask what's the story about? And what usually
dampens their interest is where you reply, "Well, it depends which origin you choose..."

It (at first) sounds too vague to be worthy of interest...

My experience was quite the contrary, all my friends had an imagination epiphany with being allowed to make that choice with all the options.  They, like many people on the forums, actually dislike games that have more limitations.

[wbrown2]

Those anyone know what the canoncail ending is for DA:O? BEcause in my playthroughs I always killed Flemeth. How does she appear in DA2? Could the game take place during the same time as in DA:O? I mean DA2 spans ten years so it's possible right?

[iTomes]

wbrown2 wrote...

Those anyone know what the canoncail ending is for DA:O? BEcause in my playthroughs I always killed Flemeth. How does she appear in DA2? Could the game take place during the same time as in DA:O? I mean DA2 spans ten years so it's possible right?

there propably is no canon. and even if, we dont know it yet. the point at were we meet flemeth is as far as i know when lotherings destroyed and we cant kill flemeth at this time (we can kill her earliest after the visiting the circle, and lothering is destroyed then).

[Riona45]

wbrown2 wrote...

Those anyone know what the canoncail ending is for DA:O?

There is no "canon" ending for DA:O.  That would mean that the devs decided that there is one version of that story that is true for all players.  That is not the case, especially since we are supposed to be able to import save games into DA2.

[MoogleNut]

Apologies if this has been asked and answered before, but is Game Informer available in the UK?

If so, would, say WHSmith stock it, or would I have to get it online?

Thanks muchly.

[SirJoeofthePub]

Wow, I’m… underwhelmed. =\\\\

Sounds like a full game sized DLC rather than a “Dragon age II”

I’m rather disappointed with the whole setting myself. I’m not interested really in playing DA:O just from a different perspective, I did that six times already, lol.

Also what exactly does this mean?

“No exclusive organization. No saving the world. No ancient evil.”

o.0 What are we going to be doing then “Rising to power” for giggles?

Well, I do suppose it’s better then what some games do, release a “2” as a prequel. I hate prequels when you expect a continuation of a story (which 2 implies)

Modifié par SirJoeofthePub, 21 juillet 2010 - 07:31 .

[Riona45]

SirJoeofthePub wrote...

I’m rather disappointed with the whole setting myself. I’m not interested really in playing DA:O just from a different perspective, I did that six times already, lol.

That's not what the game is about, though.

[Jonathan Seagull]

I don't believe that you'll be "playing DA:O just from a different perspective." While it sounds as if the beginning of the game overlaps with Origins (i.e. Lothering), the 10-year time span would imply that the majority of it takes place following the events of the first game.

As for the "No saving the world," etc., I'm interested in that as well. But just because there isn't an Archdemon/King of Shadows/Lavos doesn't mean there won't be any antagonist at all. It just might be a more human enemy, as Loghain was in the first (and to be honest, it seemed to me that the Archdemon himself was practically an afterthought compared to Loghain). And there will presumably still be conflict, it just might not be of the apocalyptic RPG-staple type.

Modifié par Jonathan Seagull, 21 juillet 2010 - 08:03 .