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[DPB]

H.Jonas.H wrote...

Wait.. so the game takes place during DAO when Lothering is destroyed? Seeing as Hawke comes from there, its basically a replay of DAO and DAA from a different point of view. Interesting...

No, that's just where it begins. I believe that most of the game is supposed to take place in the Free Marches, which is across the sea to the north of Ferelden.

[Brockololly]

SirOccam wrote...

I don't know, I just think this game is going to be set almost entirely in the Free Marches. If we did go to Orlais or Llomeryn, or Par Vollen, or Minrathous, or wherever, they'd have to visualize those countries/cities now for what would probably be a short scene, locking them into one interpretation.

I agree- at most we'll see the Free Marches and maybe one other area. I doubt we'd see places as significant as Minrthrous or Val Royeaux in addition to everything DA2- that might be a bit much. GIven how DA is all about Thedas, its not too crazy to expect that each game will revolve around one country in Thedas.

[SirOccam]

H.Jonas.H wrote...

Wait.. so the game takes place during DAO when Lothering is destroyed? Seeing as Hawke comes from there, its basically a replay of DAO and DAA from a different point of view. Interesting...

Only the Lothering section. After he escapes the Blight he flees to the Free Marches for (presumably) the rest of the game. I doubt there will be many (if any at all) further crossovers, but I'm sure he'll hear news or something about the Blight and Ferelden's new King and/or Queen and the like.

[Bryy_Miller]

Part of the game is, yes.

[Morroian]

SirOccam wrote...

Yeah, but lots of stuff is clickable on that map...the only locations that have been confirmed are all within the Free Marches as far as I know (aside from Lothering of course). I don't think being clickable necessarily means we will go there in DA2. Otherwise we'd be all over the continent, and I just can't see them doing that.

And yet why are the other locations clickable but not locations in Ferelden that we visited in DAO and Awakenings except for Lothering, Denerim and Orzammar?

[SirOccam]

Morroian wrote...

SirOccam wrote...

Yeah, but lots of stuff is clickable on that map...the only locations that have been confirmed are all within the Free Marches as far as I know (aside from Lothering of course). I don't think being clickable necessarily means we will go there in DA2. Otherwise we'd be all over the continent, and I just can't see them doing that.

And yet why are the other locations clickable but not locations in Ferelden that we visited in DAO and Awakenings except for Lothering, Denerim and Orzammar?

Who says they have to be? Why does clickability have to be tied to our past or future visits to that place at all? Maybe they just had some interesting information for places like Llomeryn and Par Vollen and so forth and chose to tell us. Kirkwall is supposed to be something of a melting pot; perhaps the politics of the people from all these places will figure into the storyline. That's my guess. It my behoove us to know about people from these places even if we don't personally go there.

We don't really know anything about their motives for showing us these locations...I think assuming that everything clickable is a place we're going to go is just setting ourselves up for disappointment.

Modifié par SirOccam, 03 août 2010 - 12:28 .

[Riona45]

joriandrake wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

Wynne did have a son. That's not really relevant to Hawke though, as Hawke could be of either gender. Same goes for Fiona's child, who was said to be a son.

WOuld be interesting to have Wynne's templar son as companion

We don't know that he would be a templar.  Not all men of the Chantry are templars, after all (see Brother Genitivi).

That being said, it's not a bad idea for a party member.  Players might be able to pick up on who it is, even if it means nothing to Hawke.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Riona45 wrote...

We don't know that he would be a templar.  Not all men of the Chantry are templars, after all (see Brother Genitivi).

That being said, it's not a bad idea for a party member.  Players might be able to pick up on who it is, even if it means nothing to Hawke.

...hopefully he's not a templar.  Because then my femHawke, who's shaping up in my mind to be a rather evil individual because I think it'd be funsies, will have to stab him with a spork.  And I'll be sad 

Though I'm probably the only one already concocting a personality and roleplaying style for Hawke this early on.  Alas.

[Riona45]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

...hopefully he's not a templar.  Because then my femHawke, who's shaping up in my mind to be a rather evil individual because I think it'd be funsies, will have to stab him with a spork.  And I'll be sad 

Though I'm probably the only one already concocting a personality and roleplaying style for Hawke this early on.  Alas.

No, that's not weird, I'm already thinking up my own character, who will definitely be a female mage.  She'll be benevolent (as I've mentioned before, I prefer good characters), but she definitely won't be a Purity Sue, either.  She won't stab a templar (unless necessary), but she won't suffer foolishness from them, either.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Riona45 wrote...

No, that's not weird, I'm already thinking up my own character, who will definitely be a female mage.  She'll be benevolent (as I've mentioned before, I prefer good characters), but she definitely won't be a Purity Sue, either.  She won't stab a templar (unless necessary), but she won't suffer foolishness from them, either.

You know, I tend to prefer good characters in CRPGs too.  My Bhaalspawn, Shepard, Heroes of Neverwinter/Undrentide/Waterdeep, and Warden are all benevolent characters.  But I like the occasional bad girl...ohh, my Exile was a nasty piece of work.  And the political clime in the Free Marches, combined with the state of the Chantry in DA2, is just too tempting.  My character's going to be a female mage, but she's shaping up to be the perfect little Slytherin, so to speak: ambitious for ambition's sake, cunning, subtle, and ruthless 

[Riona45]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

My character's going to be a female mage, but she's shaping up to be the perfect little Slytherin, so to speak: ambitious for ambition's sake, cunning, subtle, and ruthless 

Those qualities can all be very valuabe in this setting, to be sure.

[Josielyn]

Guys, I don't know about you, but I looked at the screenshots and the darkspawn don't look as scary when they have actual noses. The gaping nasal cavity is much more nightmarish. Please put some really scary looking darkspawn in DA2--- DAO and Awakening were perfect- all the better for slicing up!

[Gbone27]

only thing I'm disliking is the similarities to mass effect. I like the mass effect series but DA:O was so much more then just ME in a fantasy medieval setting.

[Freakaz0idx]

Gbone27 wrote...

only thing I'm disliking is the similarities to mass effect. I like the mass effect series but DA:O was so much more then just ME in a fantasy medieval setting.

Maybe they did it because they anticipate they'll get more sales that way. I personally didn't buy Dragon Age because the combat looked terrible, and I use a 360 which won't help one bit. I'll definetly buy DA2 though. I'll rent DA to see what I'm in for.

Modifié par Freakaz0idx, 03 août 2010 - 05:40 .

[SirOccam]

Gbone27 wrote...

only thing I'm disliking is the similarities to mass effect. I like the mass effect series but DA:O was so much more then just ME in a fantasy medieval setting.

This comes up again and again. A dialogue wheel isn't Mass Effect. A voiced protagonist isn't Mass Effect. And sharing any of these things does not mean DA2 is becoming Mass Effect. There are a LOT of factors that made Mass Effect Mass Effect. Sharing one or two minor factors doesn't mean all the other factors have to come along with them.

It's like, say you dislike a certain book. Then someone tells you about a new book coming out, which is totally different, but they use the same font on the cover, and it's written in the same perspective. Is it reasonable to dislike the new book based on that, without so much as reading the Foreword first?

[LovelyLittleLeprechauns]

SirOccam wrote...

Gbone27 wrote...

only thing I'm disliking is the similarities to mass effect. I like the mass effect series but DA:O was so much more then just ME in a fantasy medieval setting.

This comes up again and again. A dialogue wheel isn't Mass Effect. A voiced protagonist isn't Mass Effect. And sharing any of these things does not mean DA2 is becoming Mass Effect. There are a LOT of factors that made Mass Effect Mass Effect. Sharing one or two minor factors doesn't mean all the other factors have to come along with them.

It's like, say you dislike a certain book. Then someone tells you about a new book coming out, which is totally different, but they use the same font on the cover, and it's written in the same perspective. Is it reasonable to dislike the new book based on that, without so much as reading the Foreword first?

Well of course not, but people like to find things to complain about. I swear, some people are just trying to find reasons not to like DA2 even when we hardly have any information and the release is about seven months away. I think those people are just seeking attention much to our chagrin.

[joriandrake]

Gbone27 wrote...

only thing I'm disliking is the similarities to mass effect. I like the mass effect series but DA:O was so much more then just ME in a fantasy medieval setting.

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[H.Jonas.H]

Hopefully this game won't be too related to the Blight and darkspawn, since we already had them in DAO and DAA, and I thought the franchise was called Dragon Age because all the events happen in that age, not all the games being centered around darkspawn, but its too early to say for certain.

[Arlana Tabris]

H.Jonas.H wrote...

Hopefully this game won't be too related to the Blight and darkspawn, since we already had them in DAO and DAA, and I thought the franchise was called Dragon Age because all the events happen in that age, not all the games being centered around darkspawn, but its too early to say for certain.

No, it's not too early to say:
"Dragon Age II is not about killing an ancient evil or about quelling another blight; Hawke is the driving force behind the narrative. Over the course of the game's 10-year timeline, players' actions and choices will determine Hawke's history, relationships, and regrets...all in service to answering the larger question: Who is the Champion of Kirkwall?"

Modifié par Arlana Tabris, 03 août 2010 - 12:14 .

[Gbone27]

SirOccam wrote...

Gbone27 wrote...

only thing I'm disliking is the similarities to mass effect. I like the mass effect series but DA:O was so much more then just ME in a fantasy medieval setting.

This comes up again and again. A dialogue wheel isn't Mass Effect. A voiced protagonist isn't Mass Effect. And sharing any of these things does not mean DA2 is becoming Mass Effect. There are a LOT of factors that made Mass Effect Mass Effect. Sharing one or two minor factors doesn't mean all the other factors have to come along with them.

It's like, say you dislike a certain book. Then someone tells you about a new book coming out, which is totally different, but they use the same font on the cover, and it's written in the same perspective. Is it reasonable to dislike the new book based on that, without so much as reading the Foreword first?

I didn't mean to say it is going to be exactly like mass effect I just didn't like what seems like changes going in that direction for example I'd prefer not to have the dialogue in a wheel with investigate options on the side I rather liked the classic feel that DA:O had to it.

That being said I still think it will be a great game with a story that I'm really looking foward to. I didn't much care for some of the changes ME2 had from ME1 but I still loved the game.

Modifié par Gbone27, 03 août 2010 - 12:49 .

[TheButterflyEffect]

The Dark Ritual is... NOT canon?!?!?!!



Oh. No. No no no no NO.



BioWare you are stupid and I haaaaate you.



So... we'll never find out what becomes of the god baby??

[StreetlightEagle]

Varic is actually a dwarven king who knew Hawke when he was younger...

Also: "Unlike Origins, where unused party members presumably sat around the campfire, twiddling their thumbs until you returned with tales of adventure, Dragon Age 2's brood of followers will get on with their own lives. They have jobs beyond adventurer - which doesn't pay very well obviously. You'll meet them in their day to day lives." - UK PC Gamer magazine.

I don't know whether or not this is common knowledge but I thought I'd post it here anyway.

Modifié par StreetlightEagle, 03 août 2010 - 01:17 .

[DPB]

StreetlightEagle wrote...

I don't know whether or not this is common knowledge but I thought I'd post it here anyway.

No, that appears to be new information, thanks. That was something people requested a lot before DAO was released, it sounds like an interesting approach.

Is your PC Gamer a subscription copy or did you buy it from a shop? I might get it myself if it's out already.

[Bugzehat]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

The Dark Ritual is... NOT canon?!?!?!!

Oh. No. No no no no NO.

BioWare you are stupid and I haaaaate you.

So... we'll never find out what becomes of the god baby??

"Not canon" doesn't mean "will never be revisited". It just means that if you import the choices of a Warden who didn't do the ritual, it won't be a part of your game -- just like how you won't have Alistair show up if he died in your game (barring bugs, of course...)

Modifié par Bugzehat, 03 août 2010 - 01:13 .

[StreetlightEagle]

Nah I'm not subscribed to PC gamer cos I actually play my RPG's on the 360, but I needed a magazine for my long train ride to London so when I saw that DA2 was the cover story I couldn't resist!