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[Sylvius the Mad]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

You're always a Cousland everytime you play as Human Noble. I think people are getting too hung up on the last name.

There is only so many times I want to play someone with that particular backstory.

However, they haven't told us how much of Hawke's backstory is written in stone.  I'm hoping effectively none.  I'd love as much freedom as KotOR (the game offered no guidance at all on why you were on the Endar Spire), or NWN:SoU (which made you a student of a reclusive teacher, but said nothing of why you were there or what you'd done before) offered.

If Hawke's backstory is as fleshed out as the DAO origins' were, that makes it lesser than DAO on that front.  But if Hawke's backstory isn't written at all, then DA2 steps ahead of DAO by quite a bit.

No, the real problem with Hawke is the voice.  I see no way that you could play meaningfully different Hawkes using the same voice.  You'd always end up with basically the same character.

[Bryy_Miller]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

You're always a Cousland everytime you play as Human Noble. I think people are getting too hung up on the last name.

There is only so many times I want to play someone with that particular backstory.

And... ?

So only play the game that many times. Seriously, there's no use complaining about a feature that's not in the game if you have stated that you only play a limited number of times as someone anyway.

[Riona45]

andar91 wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

Andar, Bryy...it's kind of amazing how people can set up social pecking orders in just about anything (in their own minds if nowhere else). These are freaking video games, for HAVING FUN, it's not Serious Business.

I don't doubt it.  I'm just disappointed at the lack of civility that some of these people show.  Personal beliefs are one thing, but some posts are down right rude and insulting.

That's a fair point.  People can think whatever they want, but they can at least not pick fights over it.

[Riona45]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

However, they haven't told us how much of Hawke's backstory is written in stone.  I'm hoping effectively none.  I'd love as much freedom as KotOR (the game offered no guidance at all on why you were on the Endar Spire), or NWN:SoU (which made you a student of a reclusive teacher, but said nothing of why you were there or what you'd done before) offered.

Well, with KOTOR you do have a significant backstory.  Of course the details aren't really filled in, but I've found that's true of all of Bioware's games.

[andar91]

Riona45 wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

However, they haven't told us how much of Hawke's backstory is written in stone.  I'm hoping effectively none.  I'd love as much freedom as KotOR (the game offered no guidance at all on why you were on the Endar Spire), or NWN:SoU (which made you a student of a reclusive teacher, but said nothing of why you were there or what you'd done before) offered.

Well, with KOTOR you do have a significant backstory.  Of course the details aren't really filled in, but I've found that's true of all of Bioware's games.

I think it's extremely difficult to construct a good story without some form of predetermined foundation for a character, even of your own make.  If you just play some random guy/girl, things would be pretty flat.

[GwaR9292]

i think its good that its fully voiced, the game will fell more alive

(sorry for bad english)

[WitcherGeralt]

The following is what disappointed me most



Hawke is human [Chris Priestly](Left little room for ur imagination)

Hawke will be voiced(just like shepherd)

No tactical areial view(How r u gonna use magic?)



Is this DA2 or an ancient version of Mass Effect?

[SirOccam]

WitcherGeralt wrote...

The following is what disappointed me most

Hawke is human [Chris Priestly](Left little room for ur imagination)
Hawke will be voiced(just like shepherd)
No tactical areial view(How r u gonna use magic?)

Is this DA2 or an ancient version of Mass Effect?

More games than Mass Effect have a voiced protagonist, and even if it were the only one, why does it mean DA2 has to be like it in any other way?

And the "no tactical arial view" thing is only confirmed for consoles, and they didn't have it the first time round, either.

[Hey Guy]

I love how I can bump into my DOA character! I better be able to see his face--I don't want any "Yeah, that guy in the helmet is a warden from Ostagar" crap.



C:

[WitcherGeralt]

SirOccam wrote...

WitcherGeralt wrote...

The following is what disappointed me most

Hawke is human [Chris Priestly](Left little room for ur imagination)
Hawke will be voiced(just like shepherd)
No tactical areial view(How r u gonna use magic?)

Is this DA2 or an ancient version of Mass Effect?

More games than Mass Effect have a voiced protagonist, and even if it were the only one, why does it mean DA2 has to be like it in any other way?

And the "no tactical arial view" thing is only confirmed for consoles, and they didn't have it the first time round, either.

I see,I thought "No tactical arial view" thing would happen on PC,my bad,sorry

[andar91]

Edit: Sorry about that.  Stupid site keeps jumbling my posts.

Modifié par andar91, 12 août 2010 - 01:15 .

[andar91]

@WitcherGeralt: They've said that the camera on the PC will be a sort of hybrid form of the original zoomed-out one. You can play zoomed in or out, but it won't go out as far (probably) as before. Their goal is to provide a way to still survey the field, or at least that's how I interpreted Mike Laidlaw's words. Nothing's definitive on the PC camera yet because they're still testing out different methods, I believe.

[Datenshi92]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

http://social.biowar...18934/1#4418954

New info

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

[Thiefy]

oh they made elves taller! yay! they are a lot skinnier too...kind look a little on the asian side.

the new quanri look like teiflings, minus the tail. i kinda want to make a female one

[Cutlasskiwi]

the new quanri look like teiflings, minus the tail. i kinda want to make a female one

I want to play and Qunari too, a female rouge qunari.   I hope we'll get a chance to play one in the future.

[StreetlightEagle]

Just read that Mary Kirby confirmed that Varric actually isn't a king. This worries me about the erroneous information that somehow get's passed to journalists as Varric is said to be 'a dwarven king' twice in the PC Gamer article. Someone must have gotten that idea from somewhere!?

[Bugzehat]

StreetlightEagle wrote...

Just read that Mary Kirby confirmed that Varric actually isn't a king. This worries me about the erroneous information that somehow get's passed to journalists as Varric is said to be 'a dwarven king' twice in the PC Gamer article. Someone must have gotten that idea from somewhere!?

Well, he is descended from a noble line. I guess the journalists heard that and got the wrong idea.

[StreetlightEagle]

Bugzehat wrote...

StreetlightEagle wrote...

Just read that Mary Kirby confirmed that Varric actually isn't a king. This worries me about the erroneous information that somehow get's passed to journalists as Varric is said to be 'a dwarven king' twice in the PC Gamer article. Someone must have gotten that idea from somewhere!?

Well, he is descended from a noble line. I guess the journalists heard that and got the wrong idea.

Yeah, I can kinda see where the lines may have been crossed. He cannot possibly be king because he is a surfacer but it is possible that he was the heir to the throne of Orzammar or something before leaving for the surface, meaning that by the end of the story when he is narrating, he would have been king if he'd have remained behind. Just a thought.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

So only play the game that many times.

I will.  But that makes the game less appealing to me if I only get to play through it twice before I'm tired of it.

I've played through KotOR probabaly 8 times.  I've got 7 different characters going in DAO right now - and I'm nowhere near done with that game.

A game I can replay is a better game.  A game with a fixed protagonist is a game I can't replay.

Riona45 wrote...

Well, with KOTOR you do have a significant backstory.

No, they don't.  The backstory that defines your character's personality is entirely up to you.  They give you a different backstory later that doesn't change your character's memories and objectives throughout the bulk of the game (and might not affect your character's behaviour at all, depending on your character).

andar91 wrote...

I think it's extremely difficult to construct a good story without some form of predetermined foundation for a character, even of your own make.  If you just play some random guy/girl, things would be pretty flat.

That's why I think Mass Effect is a lousy game.  They don't give me anything to work with for Shepard's personality, but every time I try to come up with one on my own that abhorrent dialogue system would shoot me down.

Thief-of-Hearts wrote...

oh they made elves taller! yay! they are a lot skinnier too...kind look a little on the asian side.

They made elves taller?  Where did they say this?

The concept art isn't to scale.  We can't judge size based on the concept art.  They've said that explcitly.

[Tinxa]

StreetlightEagle wrote...

Bugzehat wrote...

StreetlightEagle wrote...

Just read that Mary Kirby confirmed that Varric actually isn't a king. This worries me about the erroneous information that somehow get's passed to journalists as Varric is said to be 'a dwarven king' twice in the PC Gamer article. Someone must have gotten that idea from somewhere!?

Well, he is descended from a noble line. I guess the journalists heard that and got the wrong idea.

Yeah, I can kinda see where the lines may have been crossed. He cannot possibly be king because he is a surfacer but it is possible that he was the heir to the throne of Orzammar or something before leaving for the surface, meaning that by the end of the story when he is narrating, he would have been king if he'd have remained behind. Just a thought.

I think the journalists just saw a dwarf sitting on a throne (as in the concept art) and went "Oooooooh, so this guy is a dwarven king".

[Sylvius the Mad]

BrotherWarth wrote...

I think saying that replayability is shot by having a fixed origin is pretty ludicrous. I played ME1 almost a dozen times.

Forf you, maybe.

Was your Shepard appreciably different in each of those playthroughs?

I completed ME1 three times, but I can't really say I actually played it even once.  I tried to figure out how to play it through two full attempts, and then when I got ME2 I played it a third time to set up my save transfer, but at no point was playing ME1 a fun experience.

[Mornmagor]

To be honest i did not enjoy DA:O too much,whether ot not you enjoy something doesn't mean it's good or not,i found many things i didn't like in the game.



For me taking quests from a chantry board,having almost no plot twists,seeing the plot even before half way,not liking any of the characters and not liking the equipment at all pretty much ruined it,but it is my own personal experience,since others loved it.

[Datenshi92]

Kuroi Kishin wrote...

To be honest i did not enjoy DA:O too much,whether ot not you enjoy something doesn't mean it's good or not,i found many things i didn't like in the game.

For me taking quests from a chantry board,having almost no plot twists,seeing the plot even before half way,not liking any of the characters and not liking the equipment at all pretty much ruined it,but it is my own personal experience,since others loved it.

Then I belive that you will enjoy DA2 better, I think.

[Bryy_Miller]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

I think saying that replayability is shot by having a fixed origin is pretty ludicrous. I played ME1 almost a dozen times.

Forf you, maybe.

Was your Shepard appreciably different in each of those playthroughs?

I completed ME1 three times, but I can't really say I actually played it even once.  I tried to figure out how to play it through two full attempts, and then when I got ME2 I played it a third time to set up my save transfer, but at no point was playing ME1 a fun experience.

I rushed my final ME1 playthrough to get my ideal import for ME2. Did it in six hours.