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What do we KNOW so far? Updated: 02 Feb 2011 *spoilers* *FINAL UPDATE* (or IS it?)


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LPPrince wrote...

I love how people are totally not giving the dialogue wheel a chance. Chris Priestly, David Gaider, everyone at Bioware's pretty much right.

People love to hate. Especially when they have no idea how it will actually work until they play it.


To be honest I didn't really like using the dialogue wheel on the PC. Sure it was fine on the console, but it felt way too much like a port when playing on the PC.
Am I to assume that the wheel will be nothing like MEs wheel when playing the PC version of DA2? If not I will keep being negative to it.

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about that wheel..i have nothing against it, but you cannot know exactly what are you going to say or to who xD..



i have played some games and used that wheel and i just don't like :P..maybe you want to sound agressive to encourage your companions but in the end you discover that you are insulting them xD



i just don't like...but weeeell...save & load, save & load, etc..^^..i really don't care..i just want my character back ¬¬ xD

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 Interesting stuff:
http://docs.google.c...mgn&interval=30

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LPPrince wrote...

I love how people are totally not giving the dialogue wheel a chance. Chris Priestly, David Gaider, everyone at Bioware's pretty much right.

People love to hate. Especially when they have no idea how it will actually work until they play it.


It'll be better than Wing Commander III's dialog system. Anyone remember that? ;)

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DJmacpher wrote...

 Interesting stuff:
http://docs.google.c...mgn&interval=30


Not really.  That's, like, the first conclusion everyone jumps to.

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DJmacpher wrote...

 Interesting stuff:
http://docs.google.c...mgn&interval=30



woooow O.O

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Riona45 wrote...

DJmacpher wrote...

 Interesting stuff:
http://docs.google.c...mgn&interval=30


Not really.  That's, like, the first conclusion everyone jumps to.


true, but what it says about the hair and everything is new to me..and it just adds more flavour ^^

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CriticalTsunami wrote...

dmgdougshow wrote...

Great thread!

If I have any disappointments with the upcoming game, it's only that we won't be able to continue our journey from DA: O. As soon as I finished playing, I really didn't want it to be over with. Sure there's DLC and expansions, but I still want more out of the world I created. I want my team that I grew to love. Starting fresh again would just seem strange to me, especially considering that this is a sequel. I just feel that they should have given us a proper sequel so that we could rightly close the book on our DA: O characters and companions, and not leave them in the dust while we start anew. Just my 2 sense.

I'm surely not ungrateful, I'm actually very excited. I just wish we could have gotten an actual sequel to DA: O before moving on to something entirely new.



yup..feels bad  :(

i mean, great we have DA2!!! hurraaah! sure,...but i was expecting something different as well :(


right!  I feel like Bioware is closing the book before we even finished reading it,  The Blight's over, so why does that mean our characters journey has to be as well.  Especially knowing that Mass Effect is a series that features your character in all 3 titles, I just wish this was the same.  I'm so attached to my character and it sucks that I can't coninue the legacy that I already created.  The idea for DA 2 sounds good, but maybe they should have done this for the third or fourth title instead.

The new additions would be meaningless to me (such as the new dialogue system) if I could still play as my hero.  Maybe we're the only one's that feel this way, but the 60+ hours I played with my hero and companions were quite memorable, and hard to let go of unwillingly.  

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DJmacpher wrote...

 Interesting stuff:
http://docs.google.c...mgn&interval=30

A few problems I have with that:

1. Why would the girl be part Archdemon? The whole point of the ritual was so that the UNTAINTED spirit of the old god would go into the child. The Archdemon was the TAINTED spirit.

2. "One of the first things you'll notice about the Dragon is that it is a very big, and very impressive looking. Clearly not an ordinary dragon."

Ordinary dragons aren't "very big" or "impressive looking?" This one is just totally subjective.

3. It hasn't been confirmed, per se, but it's been heavily hinted that this game is not "YAB" (yet another Blight) or even about Darkspawn. If I remember correctly, it's more about the character's personal journey and not so much about defeating a world-threatening baddie.

Just about the only point it makes that seems reasonable is that she is connected to the dragon somehow. The imagery with the same head angles and the horns and whatnot seems pretty clear. And I will say that for us to be "shocked" when we learn who the girl is (as the devs have said we would be), that implies that it's someone we will recognize, by reputation at least. The only names I can think of that would fit would be Flemeth in a new body or Morrigan or Morrigan's god-baby. And of those three choices, I think the most likely is Flemeth, because:

1. Her whereabouts are unknown, whether you "kill" her for Morrigan or not, so no plot holes from not doing the DR
2. She's too impressive a character not to be used in some way
3. (Okay this one's mostly wishful thinking...) Flemeth could easily be a more general villain for all players, whereas Morrigan + the baby are pretty closely linked to the Grey Warden, and I can't imagine them doing that to Morrigan romancers...bringing her or the baby back but in a game with no Warden. I just barely got my head around the concept that I'd have to wait for some DAO DLC to finish that storyline...that would be torture. BW couldn't be that evil. They just couldn't. Could they?

#210
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DJmacpher wrote...

 Interesting stuff:
http://docs.google.c...mgn&interval=30


*SPOILERS?*

There's a big hole in this theory. Dragon Age 2 takes places over 10 years and we know part of it takes place during the 5th blight (that means during the original game). At best by the time DA2 ends, Morrigan's potential child could be 10 years old. The white haired woman is clearly not a little girl.

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No one said the game starts during the fifth blight. Just that Hawke was in living in Lothering at the time. His age is never determined, so Hawke could be just a kid when he escapes the blight.

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DJmacpher wrote...

No one said the game starts during the fifth blight. Just that Hawke was in living in Lothering at the time. His age is never determined, so Hawke could be just a kid when he escapes the blight.


http://images.play.c...84432 Large.jpg

He looks pretty adult here in these Play.com screens...

Modifié par Indoctrination, 10 juillet 2010 - 04:53 .


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No morality meter



http://social.biowar...ex/3077947&lf=8

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So, Hawke can be male or female, mage or not, human only but customizable features, single player, but what about party members? That was part of what was so great from Origins was getting to know the stories of your companions, and interacting with them differently in each new playthrough. Please include romance options in DA2. It is a shame not to use those fantastic voice acting talents to their utmost... a little something for the ladies! Awakening did not live up to my expectations because of the limitations to the dialogue (timing was restricted and lack of romance). Also, I was delighted to play through the different origin stories for each race... there was me as a Dalish elf, me as a dwarf rogue commoner, me as a human mage, and me as a human noble warrier. Give me a tantalizing world to explore and different sets of eyes to see it with! Please do not let it dry up into a barren wasteland. I can assure you that I have not bought any other games while I have been busy seeking out new experiences in DAO, so keep the new material coming, and keep the same element of humanity in it as in DAO.

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DJmacpher wrote...

No one said the game starts during the fifth blight. Just that Hawke was in living in Lothering at the time. His age is never determined, so Hawke could be just a kid when he escapes the blight.

http://images.play.c...84432 Large.jpg

He looks pretty adult here in these Play.com screens...

Never said you play him as a kid.

His Age isn't determined when Lothering is destroyed.
-All that is known is that the game spans 10 years.
-No one ever said how many years after Lothering is destroyed that Dragon Age 2 starts.

For Example:
-Hawke might be 10-15 when Lothering is destroyed.
-He/She then escapes to Kirkwall.
-After being a pauper for 5-10 years in Kirkwall, he's/she's 20-25, and the game starts.

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Indoctrination wrote...

DJmacpher wrote...

No one said the game starts during the fifth blight. Just that Hawke was in living in Lothering at the time. His age is never determined, so Hawke could be just a kid when he escapes the blight.


http://images.play.c...84432 Large.jpg

He looks pretty adult here in these Play.com screens...


Pretty sure we can customize his appearance. In that case, we could make him look like an old man or a prepubescent girl if we wanted to. Age isn't something that works well with a lot of RPG PC's.

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DJmacpher wrote...

 

DJmacpher wrote...

No one said the game starts during the fifth blight. Just that Hawke was in living in Lothering at the time. His age is never determined, so Hawke could be just a kid when he escapes the blight.

http://images.play.c...84432 Large.jpg

He looks pretty adult here in these Play.com screens...

Never said you play him as a kid.

His Age isn't determined when Lothering is destroyed.
-All that is known is that the game spans 10 years.
-No one ever said how many years after Lothering is destroyed that Dragon Age 2 starts.

For Example:
-Hawke might be 10-15 when Lothering is destroyed.
-He/She then escapes to Kirkwall.
-After being a pauper for 5-10 years in Kirkwall, he's/she's 20-25, and the game starts.


Did you even look at those screenshots I linked you to? How can you imply that it's likely that he's 10 or 15? Look at that beard! As always you Morrigan-GodBaby fanboys are just being unreasonable. There were theories of how Hawke was the GodBaby all day when this board appeared right up until one of the devs told them they were wrong. Is that the only evidence that will disuade you? Look, we've got screenshots of a clearly adult Hawke fighting darkspawn with what appears to be destroyed buildings in the background. The evidence appears to be highly against you right now. Why not tone it down a bit until you can find some evidence that explains this?

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Maniac600 wrote...

Indoctrination wrote...

DJmacpher wrote...

No one said the game starts during the fifth blight. Just that Hawke was in living in Lothering at the time. His age is never determined, so Hawke could be just a kid when he escapes the blight.


http://images.play.c...84432 Large.jpg

He looks pretty adult here in these Play.com screens...


Pretty sure we can customize his appearance. In that case, we could make him look like an old man or a prepubescent girl if we wanted to. Age isn't something that works well with a lot of RPG PC's.


My point was that it's highly unlikely that the escape from Lothering part of plot happens when Hawke is a child.

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Pretty sure we can customize his appearance. In that case, we could make him look like an old man or a prepubescent girl if we wanted to. Age isn't something that works well with a lot of RPG PC's.


This. Also, Hawke can be female, I believe.

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DJmacpher wrote...

 

DJmacpher wrote...

No one said the game starts during the fifth blight. Just that Hawke was in living in Lothering at the time. His age is never determined, so Hawke could be just a kid when he escapes the blight.

http://images.play.c...84432 Large.jpg

He looks pretty adult here in these Play.com screens...

Never said you play him as a kid.

His Age isn't determined when Lothering is destroyed. 
-All that is known is that the game spans 10 years. 
-No one ever said how many years after Lothering is destroyed that Dragon Age 2 starts.

For Example:
-Hawke might be 10-15 when Lothering is destroyed.
-He/She then escapes to Kirkwall. 
-After being a pauper for 5-10 years in Kirkwall, he's/she's 20-25, and the game starts.

Did you even look at those screenshots I linked you to? How can you imply that it's likely that he's 10 or 15? Look at that beard! As always you Morrigan-GodBaby fanboys are just being unreasonable. There were theories of how Hawke was the GodBaby all day when this board appeared right up until one of the devs told them they were wrong. Is that the only evidence that will disuade you? Look, we've got screenshots of a clearly adult Hawke fighting darkspawn with what appears to be destroyed buildings in the background. The evidence appears to be highly against you right now. Why not tone it down a bit until you can find some evidence that explains this?

Please link me the site saying that the game begins at the destruction of Lothering. This sounds like it would be an interesting read.

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Indoctrination wrote...

DJmacpher wrote...

 

DJmacpher wrote...

No one said the game starts during the fifth blight. Just that Hawke was in living in Lothering at the time. His age is never determined, so Hawke could be just a kid when he escapes the blight.

http://images.play.c...84432 Large.jpg

He looks pretty adult here in these Play.com screens...

Never said you play him as a kid.

His Age isn't determined when Lothering is destroyed.
-All that is known is that the game spans 10 years.
-No one ever said how many years after Lothering is destroyed that Dragon Age 2 starts.

For Example:
-Hawke might be 10-15 when Lothering is destroyed.
-He/She then escapes to Kirkwall.
-After being a pauper for 5-10 years in Kirkwall, he's/she's 20-25, and the game starts.


Did you even look at those screenshots I linked you to? How can you imply that it's likely that he's 10 or 15? Look at that beard! As always you Morrigan-GodBaby fanboys are just being unreasonable. There were theories of how Hawke was the GodBaby all day when this board appeared right up until one of the devs told them they were wrong. Is that the only evidence that will disuade you? Look, we've got screenshots of a clearly adult Hawke fighting darkspawn with what appears to be destroyed buildings in the background. The evidence appears to be highly against you right now. Why not tone it down a bit until you can find some evidence that explains this?


This is not the point they were trying to make. The screenshots you posted have no indication of where or when they took place. Just because there are destroyed buildings in the background does not mean he is in Lothering nor does it mean that it is during the same blight in which it was destroyed.

Hawke could have escaped Lothering when he was a child, and the game could start with Hawke returning to Lothering. Or, it could start with him in Kirkwall. Or, it could start with him on the moon taking a space dragon to planet flaglooga.

This is all speculation, buddy. You have no more evidence than anyone else does at this point.

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  Or, it could start with him on the moon taking a space dragon to planet flaglooga. 

I'd play that. 

but also everything else she just said.

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DJmacpher wrote...

 

DJmacpher wrote...

 

DJmacpher wrote...

No one said the game starts during the fifth blight. Just that Hawke was in living in Lothering at the time. His age is never determined, so Hawke could be just a kid when he escapes the blight.

http://images.play.c...84432 Large.jpg

He looks pretty adult here in these Play.com screens...

Never said you play him as a kid.

His Age isn't determined when Lothering is destroyed. 
-All that is known is that the game spans 10 years. 
-No one ever said how many years after Lothering is destroyed that Dragon Age 2 starts.

For Example:
-Hawke might be 10-15 when Lothering is destroyed.
-He/She then escapes to Kirkwall. 
-After being a pauper for 5-10 years in Kirkwall, he's/she's 20-25, and the game starts.


Did you even look at those screenshots I linked you to? How can you imply that it's likely that he's 10 or 15? Look at that beard! As always you Morrigan-GodBaby fanboys are just being unreasonable. There were theories of how Hawke was the GodBaby all day when this board appeared right up until one of the devs told them they were wrong. Is that the only evidence that will disuade you? Look, we've got screenshots of a clearly adult Hawke fighting darkspawn with what appears to be destroyed buildings in the background. The evidence appears to be highly against you right now. Why not tone it down a bit until you can find some evidence that explains this?

Please link me the site saying that the game begins at the destruction of Lothering. This sounds like it would be an interesting read.


Please link me to the site saying that it doesn't? We're both speculating, friend. It's just that my speculation is based on actual in-game screenshots and yours is based on ignoring those screenshots. *shrug*Image IPB

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Maniac600 wrote...

This is not the point they were trying to make. The screenshots you posted have no indication of where or when they took place. Just because there are destroyed buildings in the background does not mean he is in Lothering nor does it mean that it is during the same blight in which it was destroyed.

Hawke could have escaped Lothering when he was a child, and the game could start with Hawke returning to Lothering. Or, it could start with him in Kirkwall. Or, it could start with him on the moon taking a space dragon to planet flaglooga.

This is all speculation, buddy. You have no more evidence than anyone else does at this point.



Did I say it wasn't speculation? No, I didn't. My point is that those screenshots likely represent a giant hole in the theory of the GodBaby fanboys who until yesterday were willing to swear that Hawke was the GodBaby (right up until a dev told them they were wrong).

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Please no!



Dragon Age: Effect, Dragon Age: Hawke, Dragon Age: Fable... ok, but Not Dragon Age "2"...



I do not want a Masseffable Age 2... :_(



I love DA:O and DA:A... i want to play the same kind of game in DA:2