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What do we KNOW so far? Updated: 02 Feb 2011 *spoilers* *FINAL UPDATE* (or IS it?)


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"Flemeth saves Hawke and co. and asks that he deliver a package for her in repayment."

Why does it always seem like Flemeth saves your character so you can do something?

Modifié par ZaroktheImmortal, 24 août 2010 - 09:40 .


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ZaroktheImmortal wrote...

"Flemeth saves Hawke and co. and asks that he deliver a package for her in repayment."

Why does it always seem like Flemeth saves your character so you can do something?


I wonder if this will end up being something like, the package is a vial of her blood so that in case something should happen to her (i.e. if you killed her as a Grey Warden) she can still be reincarnated into another body by that person drinking the blood. Or something.

If she appears later on in the game as well, which I'm going to assume she does, then that scenario ties up any questions about how she's alive again despite being killed in the first game. A failsafe, if you will.

Only problem with that is it doesn't allow for any opportunity to screw her over, unless you get to choose the body she reincarnates in. Oooo sacrifice your sister so that Flemeth may live again!

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darkhallsredfloors wrote...

ZaroktheImmortal wrote...

"Flemeth saves Hawke and co. and asks that he deliver a package for her in repayment."

Why does it always seem like Flemeth saves your character so you can do something?


I wonder if this will end up being something like, the package is a vial of her blood so that in case something should happen to her (i.e. if you killed her as a Grey Warden) she can still be reincarnated into another body by that person drinking the blood. Or something.

If she appears later on in the game as well, which I'm going to assume she does, then that scenario ties up any questions about how she's alive again despite being killed in the first game. A failsafe, if you will.

Only problem with that is it doesn't allow for any opportunity to screw her over, unless you get to choose the body she reincarnates in. Oooo sacrifice your sister so that Flemeth may live again!



Remember what Morrigan said before sending you to "kill" Flemeth, "You cannot kill her, Flemeth will be weak for a while." (or something like that is what she says, sorry, I cant remember the exactly words -_-)

So, really, you never killed flemeth on the first game ... she could have many ways to come back to life again.
After all, she's "the witch of the wilds"...

Modifié par Geirahod, 24 août 2010 - 02:29 .


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We only know that Flemeth is alive at the start of Dragon Age 2 which is when Hawke is fleeing Lothering. As that happens early in DA:O then the Warden hasn't killed her yet. To me that means that if you do kill Flemeth in DA:O she may actually be dead or hovering bodiless waiting to snatch someone else's. I can't see anything else that says she'll appear more in DA2. As for her doing the voice over for the trailer, Duncan does voiceovers in DA:O and only appears early on. So mayhaps she'll only be a catalyst early on.

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Quicksilverk wrote...

We only know that Flemeth is alive at the start of Dragon Age 2 which is when Hawke is fleeing Lothering. As that happens early in DA:O then the Warden hasn't killed her yet. To me that means that if you do kill Flemeth in DA:O she may actually be dead or hovering bodiless waiting to snatch someone else's. I can't see anything else that says she'll appear more in DA2. As for her doing the voice over for the trailer, Duncan does voiceovers in DA:O and only appears early on. So mayhaps she'll only be a catalyst early on.


This is true, but it would seem a bit of a waste to only use her for the beginning, which was also true of Duncan - bit of a waste. In my mind, however, there is so much more story to explored with Flemeth and obviously Morrigan, that to get rid of her so quickly would be a shame.

Personally I am hoping for some sort of option later on the game that will allow us to either destroy Flemeth completely, leave her as is (say a wandering spirit) or gain her as an ally. Certainly that would make for some interesting outcomes.

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That would add a lot of depth, especially because Flemeth was present in The Stolen Throne as well so she is a recurring character. I just hope people don't get their hopes up for her to be a minor role.

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I was really hoping to have a party larger than only four characters with this one.

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I have only 2 questions.

1) What's in the letter, Flemeth wants Hawke to deliver?

2) Can you choose to betray her and throw the letter away? I think it's a must have option.

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Sarevok Anchev wrote...

Did anyone mention, how weak the graphics look?


People have been complaining about the screenshots ever since we could see them, whether that's fair or not.

Those few who have actually seen demos of the game have said the graphics are much improved over those in DA:O, though.

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Varric looks much better than he did, say, at Comic-Con a month ago.

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

Varric looks much better than he did, say, at Comic-Con a month ago.


Really? :D Can we see some pics?

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Datenshi92 wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Varric looks much better than he did, say, at Comic-Con a month ago.


Really? :D Can we see some pics?


Bryy actually saw it in person, IIRC. 

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I don't know if someone already mentioned this, according to Kotaku when they played a demo of Dragon Age 2, combat is more like God of War than DAO.

http://kotaku.com/56...l-dragon-age-ii

Modifié par Wrath of Bong, 25 août 2010 - 03:32 .


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Riona45 wrote...

Datenshi92 wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

Varric looks much better than he did, say, at Comic-Con a month ago.


Really? :D Can we see some pics?


Bryy actually saw it in person, IIRC. 


I'M SO VERY SPECIAL.

Aren't Varric pics in this thread?

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I know it's probably way too early to have anything at all, but do we know anything about the system reqs?

I'll be updating my PC soon actually, so it doesn't really matter for me, but is it going to be a huge jump or if we can play DA:O should we be okay with this?

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scootermcgaffin wrote...

I know it's probably way too early to have anything at all, but do we know anything about the system reqs?
I'll be updating my PC soon actually, so it doesn't really matter for me, but is it going to be a huge jump or if we can play DA:O should we be okay with this?


I don't think we know anything yet, sorry.  I would think that if you upgrade, you'll be okay (the game will be out in March), but you may want to hold off until we know more, if you have the choice.

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Quicksilverk wrote...

That would add a lot of depth, especially because Flemeth was present in The Stolen Throne as well so she is a recurring character. I just hope people don't get their hopes up for her to be a minor role.


Flemeth reminds me of characters like Flagg in several of Stephen King's books, or Mother Yackle in Gregory Maguire's 'Wicked Years' trilogy.

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Wrath of Bong wrote...

I don't know if someone already mentioned this, according to Kotaku when they played a demo of Dragon Age 2, combat is more like God of War than DAO.

http://kotaku.com/56...l-dragon-age-ii

I didn't really get that impression at all from that article. For one thing, they immediately disclaimed the God of War comment with "Okay, perhaps it's not quite that visceral, but there is definitely new urgency and brutality to the combat."

For another, they were clearly referring to the "super-charged" section of the game we've all heard so much about. It's deliberately boosted, because Varric is embellishing.

In fact, he didn't even have time to play the non-exaggerated combat:
"Fleeing into the hills, they are about to stumble upon a Darkspawn patrol when the BioWare rep told me the next group was coming in to play, and I had to leave."

Modifié par SirOccam, 25 août 2010 - 08:09 .


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SirOccam wrote...

In fact, he didn't even have time to play the non-exaggerated combat:
"Fleeing into the hills, they are about to stumble upon a Darkspawn patrol when the BioWare rep told me the next group was coming in to play, and I had to leave."


What a spoilsport... I would've been like: Hold on to your pants, I'm playing now and I won't leave till I finish!
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darkhallsredfloors wrote...

ZaroktheImmortal wrote...

"Flemeth saves Hawke and co. and asks that he deliver a package for her in repayment."

Why does it always seem like Flemeth saves your character so you can do something?


I wonder if this will end up being something like, the package is a vial of her blood so that in case something should happen to her (i.e. if you killed her as a Grey Warden) she can still be reincarnated into another body by that person drinking the blood. Or something.

If she appears later on in the game as well, which I'm going to assume she does, then that scenario ties up any questions about how she's alive again despite being killed in the first game. A failsafe, if you will.

Only problem with that is it doesn't allow for any opportunity to screw her over, unless you get to choose the body she reincarnates in. Oooo sacrifice your sister so that Flemeth may live again!



Combine this failsafe concept with the idea that the Warden was actually successfull in killing her body, and you get Flemeth coming back due to one's own actions, and still being involved in much of the story.

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Vandicus wrote...

darkhallsredfloors wrote...

ZaroktheImmortal wrote...

"Flemeth saves Hawke and co. and asks that he deliver a package for her in repayment."

Why does it always seem like Flemeth saves your character so you can do something?


I wonder if this will end up being something like, the package is a vial of her blood so that in case something should happen to her (i.e. if you killed her as a Grey Warden) she can still be reincarnated into another body by that person drinking the blood. Or something.

If she appears later on in the game as well, which I'm going to assume she does, then that scenario ties up any questions about how she's alive again despite being killed in the first game. A failsafe, if you will.

Only problem with that is it doesn't allow for any opportunity to screw her over, unless you get to choose the body she reincarnates in. Oooo sacrifice your sister so that Flemeth may live again!



Combine this failsafe concept with the idea that the Warden was actually successfull in killing her body, and you get Flemeth coming back due to one's own actions, and still being involved in much of the story.


Perhaps, if you choose to kill flemeth with your warden in DA:O, Flemeth didn't die by your warden in DA:O. Maybe she just created the illusion you killed her, or if she actually did "die" and become much weaker she could join up with Hawke later on in the story thus providing us with a sort of "morrigan like" character in DA2. Just my 2 cents thrown in.

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Err, I'm confused.....

"Hawke meets Wesley, an injured Templar, and Aveline, his wife, while fleeing Lothering." (IGN)



An injured Templar and his wife?!?!?!?!?!



Vows of chastity, anyone?

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Wrath of Bong wrote...

I don't know if someone already mentioned this, according to Kotaku when they played a demo of Dragon Age 2, combat is more like God of War than DAO.

http://kotaku.com/56...l-dragon-age-ii


The whole game is like that, including graphic design.

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McCreath wrote...

Err, I'm confused.....
"Hawke meets Wesley, an injured Templar, and Aveline, his wife, while fleeing Lothering." (IGN)

An injured Templar and his wife?!?!?!?!?!

Vows of chastity, anyone?


Perhaps his Templar brothers were unhappy that he was cheating his vows. That would explain the injuries. :whistle:

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SirOccam wrote...

Wrath of Bong wrote...

I don't know if someone already mentioned this, according to Kotaku when they played a demo of Dragon Age 2, combat is more like God of War than DAO.

http://kotaku.com/56...l-dragon-age-ii

I didn't really get that impression at all from that article. For one thing, they immediately disclaimed the God of War comment with "Okay, perhaps it's not quite that visceral, but there is definitely new urgency and brutality to the combat."

For another, they were clearly referring to the "super-charged" section of the game we've all heard so much about. It's deliberately boosted, because Varric is embellishing.

In fact, he didn't even have time to play the non-exaggerated combat:
"Fleeing into the hills, they are about to stumble upon a Darkspawn patrol when the BioWare rep told me the next group was coming in to play, and I had to leave."


This man speaks truth!