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[AlexXIV]

Ok I'll make it short.

Maybe too early to ask, but I always wondered about the DA:O canon. I always found it proper that the GW sacrifices himself killing the Archdemon, simply because it is greatest heroic deed anyone can do in Dragon Age. Even if that means, that he is dead in DLCs afterwards. I know there are people who don't like canon (or dying whatsoever), but since a new story starts in DA2 it is only reasonable to have a canon history, and an actual name for the Warden who ended the Blight.

Secondly, why call the new guy Hawke? I am not a ME fanboy, but I like the name Shepard. And with all the references to DA in ME (i.e. mention of a 'Maker', Ogre statue in Kasumi DLC), why not? People may say it would be silly, but hell ... it is anyway, so does it really matter?

[SnakeHelah]

There is no canon, I suppose. We forge our own story in the game.

Canon is Hawke.

[joriandrake]

@OP true

Modifié par joriandrake, 09 juillet 2010 - 07:29 .

[AlexXIV]

SnakeHelah wrote...

There is no canon, I suppose. We forge our own story in the game.
Canon is Hawke.

That's what they said about KotOR as well. There always is canon. Multiple choices are only to make the game 'replayable'. That doesn't change there can only be one truth. I don't really know why people always get upset about canon if it is not like their savegame. It is only for fun, and nobody needs to feel stupid or left out, or that he wasted his time just because his own hero is not canon.

[Demx]

Hawke is just too close to Hawkeye....damn you M*A*S*H!

[Chuvvy]

Siradix wrote...

Hawke is just too close to Hawkeye....damn you M*A*S*H!

CANNOT BE UNREAD!!!!!!!!

[AlexXIV]

Siradix wrote...

Hawke is just too close to Hawkeye....damn you M*A*S*H!

Agreed. I don't like it much. It is not that bad that I couldn't get used to it. but still ...

[CLime]

BioWare may end up just doing what Obsidian did with KotOR2- ask the player one way or another what happened during DA:O, with the conceit that Hawke or whoever is remembering events, rather than rewriting them. They themselves already used this trick in ME2, during the conversation with Miranda and Jacob after escaping the lab, to allow players who didn't import a save file to pick their preferred ending to the first game.  KotOR (and KotOR2) both do have canons, but only because Star Wars and all its sub-IPs are inundated with companion media, and all that has no bearing on the two games themselves anway.
DA2 won't even be in Ferelden, so I don't see why it's vital that there be one canon ending. BioWare may choose one anyway, especially if the ruler of Ferelden at the end of DA:O plays any sort of role, but there are plenty of other scenarios in which the work required to support the dozen or so possible endings to Origins wouldn't be more than a codex entry and a few dialogue branches.

Modifié par CLime, 09 juillet 2010 - 07:43 .

[AlexXIV]

CLime wrote...

BioWare may end up just doing what Obsidian did with KotOR2- ask the player one way or another what happened during DA:O, with the conceit that Hawke or whoever is remembering events, rather than rewriting them. They themselves already used this trick in ME2, during the conversation with Miranda and Jacob after escaping the lab, to allow players who didn't import a save file to pick their preferred ending to the first game.  KotOR (and KotOR2) both do have canons, but only because Star Wars and all its sub-IPs are inundated with companion media, and all that has no bearing on the two games themselves anway.
DA2 won't even be in Ferelden, so I don't see why it's vital that there be one canon ending. BioWare may choose one anyway, especially if the ruler of Ferelden at the end of DA:O plays any sort of role, but there are plenty of other scenarios in which the work required to support the dozen or so possible endings to Origins wouldn't be more than a codex entry and a few dialogue branches.

Well but don't forget about Morrigan.

I don't think her story would end like that.

[CLime]

Morrigan's baby does seem like a pretty big Chekov's gun, but I still wouldn't be terribly surprised if they found a way to work it out even if the Warden doesn't do the ritual. Plenty of eligible bachelors in Vigil's Keep.

[Behindyounow]

Whatever the canon is, I just hope to god the dark ritual isn't canon.

[element eater]

CLime wrote...

Morrigan's baby does seem like a pretty big Chekov's gun, but I still wouldn't be terribly surprised if they found a way to work it out even if the Warden doesn't do the ritual. Plenty of eligible bachelors in Vigil's Keep.

i think ur right if the DR is in it i suspect they will include some kind of work around to justify it what ever the end of DAO

[BlackyBlack]

There is no canon which is why we play as a different character in DA2 (so that they don't have to do "consequences")



There's also no canon for Mass Effect

[AlexXIV]

BlackyBlack wrote...

There is no canon which is why we play as a different character in DA2 (so that they don't have to do "consequences")

There's also no canon for Mass Effect

ME Story has not ended yet. If they continue with some new hero several years or decades later then there will be canon, Because history cannot be optional. You can decide not to know it, say it may have happened this way or that way. But in the end if it is a story that has an impact on the world you live in, then you will see the results. Who became the king of Orzammar, did Zethrian die, did the Elves get slaughtered, has the resting place of Andraste been found or not? And most importantly, the identity of the Grey Warden. They remember the all the Wardens who ended Blights, so why would they forget the one who did it just years ago?

Sorry but not having canon history is like ignoring history. I personally would prefer a female dalish Elf Warden, but I know it is most unlikely to happen, since the last Archdemon was slain by an elf already and also the protagonist is most likely male human (as seen in all the trailers).

Modifié par AlexXIV, 09 juillet 2010 - 09:48 .

[Arttis]

Morrigans god baby for DA3

[Hayllee]

The ending of DA and the set up for DA2 does bother me a bit, but looking back on a few of my posts, I despised Awakening and then liked it. So I'm not judging, bickering, or anticipating anything. The only thing that sucks is if there is a canon, I suppose my female warden is void, huh? Oh no, I'm doing it. I'm anticipating badness. No, no no... I need to stop now.

[BlackyBlack]

@ AlexXIV

I think you're forgetting there's also 3 books, 1 comic and 1 spin off game for Mass Effect where is seen there's no canon for the Mass Effect Trilogy

Devs have confirmed a million times there's no canon for Mass Effect which is why other media mostly ignore Shepard.

Revelation, Ascension, Redemption, Galaxy, Retribution are all made that way that they don't mention certain events and don't establish a canon. It's never mentioned whether Shepard male or female, what happened to the council, the rachni etc.

It will be the same for DA2. Either the game will ask you a few questions like in KOTOR2 or there'll be NO mention of who's king and what happened to other people

The point of BioWare games is that YOU shape history. KOTOR had a canon 'cos it was LucasArts property and they decided that way even though BioWare didn't like it

Modifié par BlackyBlack, 09 juillet 2010 - 10:16 .

[SOLID_EVEREST]

I think everyone should drop the God Child thing... Major Spoilers

















Morrigan takes off far away from the Free Marshes--either to Orlais or the Frostback Mountains. Since our character is going to be in the Free Marshes, I have no idea how the hell Morrigan/baby made it all the way there...

[hawat333]

Aaah, so Dragon Age 2 is just a working title for Mass Effect 3! I so knew it!

[Adrek-Swords]

there must be a protagonist.
with a name, a background.
completing the universe's history.
So in my opinion, could be the protagonist in DAO.
Human warrior-mage-arcane (arcane warrior because of family lineage Amell)
As the "family Skywaker" in Star Wars ...
... and the face of Triler "Sacred Ashes".

In Dragonage II.
Hawke Garret male mage.
presentation on the cover and in "destiniy Triler" have a perfect character with great charisma.
In addition to connecting with family Amell is very beautiful. (And the family crest).

Conon should be in the DA3
because many players and fans want a "star" ....
as a testimony of history ... one that creates the player is nothing more than "a tale of tavern"as the interpretation of the story Varrich