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Olof85

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While I do enjoy watching all the drama, assumptions and overreacting it do get old after a while. Why don’t we try and take a little more sober look on what we know.

We start out with this bit of info:

“Dragon Age 2 progresses the epic saga, as you take on the role of Hawke, a survivor of the Blight and the hero who will change the world forever”

Yes it means we can only play as a male/female human and I do understand that it makessome people sad,
annoyed and/or angry.  That part is understandable. Is it gamebreaking? For your sake I hope not.  However,
does the quote above indicate that all other customization options are gone like a great deal of the posters here seems to think? Well, I don’t think so.  It still leaves huge room for freedom and customization
and to think Bioware would remove those things completely is just plain folly.  It all comes
down to implementations.  

Let’s move on:

“We are amplifyingthe things that made Dragon Age: Origins such a huge successwhile introducing a more dynamic combat system, improving the graphics, and telling the most importantstory in our world.”

I guess you could chose to read it like many people have done and draw the assumption that
it means that Dragon age 2 is all about action and graphics and moving more into the Mass effect route. Surprisingly I don’t. To me it reads: We are keeping everything in Dragon age that we and our fans are happy with while improving its weak points: Graphic and combat.  Graphic was fine with me, but  it’s obvious it
was an issue for loads of people. A few of you may  also claim that there was nothing wrong with the combat system. Well you are of course entitled to your opinion, but to be honest, Bioware have done much better in the past.  It lacked a dimension tactically and can definitely be made better.  Now you may chose to direct me
towards this quote:

“Think like a general and fight like a Spartan with dynamic new combat mechanics that put
you right in the heart of battle whether you are a mage, rogue, or warrior.”

Well how much tactics can u need if you are to fight in the middle of the action like a Spartan you may wonder? Isn’t this just more proof that we will be seeing a fantasy Mass
effect?  Here most people seem to ignore the first three words of the sentence. “Think like a general”.  I would not worry about dumbing down and making the action system more action based until I see it in action. Right now
we actually have nothing that confirms or actually indicates that, that would be the case.  

Moving on:

“He also asserts that BioWare is working hard to make sure “fans of the original game retain
a sense of satisfaction and familiarity in the world.” This may simply mean referencing events of the first game, or it could also mean a Mass Effect 2-style save transfer is being planned.”

Next to this statement are other comments made by Bioware employees confirming that choices made will in one way or the other transfer over to Dragon age 2. So no, your play through of Dragon age was
NOT pointless (How anyone could think so in the first place is beyond me).   

I very much doubt Dragon age 2 will turn into a masseffect set in a fantasy world. Why would it? Because we may see a voiced main character? Because the game gets better graphics? Because we only can play as human? Hmm yes… excellent indications. I may of course be proved  wrong in a few months. As for right now I find nothing
that upsets me because there is nothing to be upset about, We know nothing
solid. I will most likely return with some kind of complaint in a few months when there is something to complain about. Now the only things we have are tiny bits of info that we have no clue how they are to be implemented.  I am more than anything else very much excited and curious about Dragon age 2.

Modifié par Olof85, 09 juillet 2010 - 10:39 .


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Its not as many people as you may think that overreact.

Also making new threads really does not help like the last guy i told.

People like drama.

People overreact.

This thread will not stop that.

I completely understadn what your saying though.

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"He also asserts

that BioWare is working hard to make sure “fans of the original game

retain

a sense of satisfaction and familiarity in the world"





how....reassuring?



seriously, this has to be extra mentioned, aren't you people now even more worried that before?

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Olof85

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Help? No of course it doesnt help. However it brings forward a slightly different perspectiv.

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Spawny

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Sorry I just wanted to ask something mentioned above, where did it state the character will be human? I might of missed it but so far I've only seen the survivor thing and a last name but nothing mentioned that the race is set human? I'm not being snarky, I'm genuinely wondering if I missed something here :/

Modifié par HagSpawn, 09 juillet 2010 - 10:47 .


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Olof85

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Hmm I dont remember in what thread Chriss confirmed it, sorry. You just have to take our word for it, or go searching

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joriandrake

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HagSpawn wrote...

Sorry I just wanted to ask something mentioned above, where did it state the character will be human? I might of missed it but so far I've only seen the survivor thing and a last name but nothing mentioned of race choice? I'm not being snarky, I'm genuinely wondering if I missed something here :/



devs and mods commented on the game already scattered across the forum, but i don't have any of the threads to link to them, but I have myself seen atleast two threads in which they clearly state only human is an "option"

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I wrote this in another thread earlier, and I thought it would suffice for this one as well.

A lot of the fear mongering and hatred has come from an implication drawn from two facts:
1) This chap's name is invariably Hawke.
2) This fellow is also invariably a human.

The name Hawke has sent the people of this forum into hysteria, because another fixed surname happens to be Shepard, and that name is fixed because it allows voice acting.
Of course, all of that is complete nonsense. Shepard never uses his own name, so that has nothing to do with it. In DA:O the PC was known as Warden, but he's not a Grey Warden this time around, so he needed a name, and Hawke was close at hand.

Secondly, people are complaining about the lack of choice in race, predicting that this will mean a loss of all customization. This isn't true. The PC is a human for an important reason, and that reason in no way interferes with customization. I've removed the example I had here, because it was causing too much confusion. Suffice to say that I had an example of a plot that only worked in one specific context.
The devs didn't remove the other races to spite you, they didn't remove them because everything is being dumbed down, and they certainly didn't remove them because they're cutting back on customization. The only reason that the races are being removed is because it's the only way that the plot can work.

*EDIT*
The city building is an example of a plot that only works in one specific context. It's just an example, and besides which, while city building is very admirable and all, it doesn't make much of a game.

*EDIT... AGAIN*
Oops, thanks for pointing that out Kinthalis. I did become totally irrelevant , didn't I? I'll fix that up now.

Modifié par Keithhy, 09 juillet 2010 - 11:28 .


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Spawny

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Ahh buggeration! OK will check out his posts.

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kyles3

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plenty of dwarves on the surface, at least a few elves in every human city. you're welcome. again.

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Keithhy

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Haha, what would my crazy theories be without you kyles?

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kyles3

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i'd agree that there are many practical reasons to do away with multiple races for the PC. i think by far the most probable is that it's going to be voiced in DA2.

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You might be right, but lets not leap into fear mongering just yet. We've known about the game for about twenty four hours, and we have plenty of time to scream at each other if it turns out that this hysterical mob is right.

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Kinthalis ThornBlade

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Keithhy

Secondly, people are complaining about the lack of choice in race, predicting that this will mean a loss of all customization. This isn't true. The PC is probably a human for one important reason.
He's going to be moving around rebuilding villages and cities in his homeland. Dwarves couldn't do this because they're all underground and that's too much design work, and besides which would require a different plot. Elves, on the other hand, don't even have cities.


You may want to read that again. You might find the huge logic hole in your thinking. 

Your explanation as to why the devs have fixed the character's race is fine and dandy, but it has absolutely nothing to do with your first sentence. Removing race as an option DOES INDEED mean the loss of some customizability.

Olof85

Yes it means we can only play as a male/female human and I do understand that it makessome people sad, 
annoyed and/or angry.  That part is understandable. Is it gamebreaking? For your sake I hope not.  However,
does the quote above indicate that all other customization options are gone like a great deal of the posters here seems to think? Well, I don’t think so.  It still leaves huge room for freedom and customization
and to think Bioware would remove those things completely is just plain folly. 



Really? They change one of the MAIN aspects that made the original game what it is, and your immediate thought isn't: "Well they made such a drastic change here, does that mean they might have made drastic changes elsewhere"?

Seems like a perfectly reasonable question to ask oneself.

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http://social.biowar...52334/1#3052434



found the race comment.