How about it?
This is a bigass company that has made countless of godlike games, and once again proved that they are the kings of RPG with the recent DA:O and ME2.
They are gods that make awesome games, and they know what they are doing. We should be thankful for them making such awesome games, not whining over all the things that you expected to see, and prejudging the game like it has already been released. No, we should be happy that they are making another (most likely) awesome game, and we should praise them for it.
That's all.
How about people stop whining?
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:13
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This is a forum and that is what happens when new games are announced. The same could be said about this thread.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:17
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"godlike"? "gods"? Please... There are no "gods" here, nor in any other software house on this planet.
Also, I would disagree about "kings" of RPGs, that title has changed hands quite a bit ago, as far as I'm concerned, and I'm afraid that next year will show just that again.
Despite what the most rabid fans would say, preemptive expression of concern over several aspects of a game are still VERY valuable data to a game developer. IF the developer is willing to listen to their fans, it can help them avoid some pitfalls and it can give them some insight on what fans want or don't want.
Mind you countless companies PAY statistics professionals to be able to see what their customers want. Bioware should deem themselves lucky that their fans come here to share just that kind of data for free
Also, I would disagree about "kings" of RPGs, that title has changed hands quite a bit ago, as far as I'm concerned, and I'm afraid that next year will show just that again.
Despite what the most rabid fans would say, preemptive expression of concern over several aspects of a game are still VERY valuable data to a game developer. IF the developer is willing to listen to their fans, it can help them avoid some pitfalls and it can give them some insight on what fans want or don't want.
Mind you countless companies PAY statistics professionals to be able to see what their customers want. Bioware should deem themselves lucky that their fans come here to share just that kind of data for free
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:20
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How about people stop whining about people who state their fears for a franchise they love?
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:22
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There'll always be a vocal minority of RPG elitists that have nothing better to do than complain. Just look at ME2. However, the majority preferred ME2 over ME1 and BioWare does what the majority wants
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:24
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Like I've said in a previous thread,I reserve the right to complain because I'm worried that DA2 may be taking a step in the wrong direction completely.
...I'm also English.Therefore I tend to whine a lot.
...I'm also English.Therefore I tend to whine a lot.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:24
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We have the right to state our opinion of the game.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:26
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So who does the title of "king of RPG" go to now?Abriael_CG wrote...
"godlike"? "gods"? Please... There are no "gods" here, nor in any other software house on this planet.
Also, I would disagree about "kings" of RPGs, that title has changed hands quite a bit ago, as far as I'm concerned, and I'm afraid that next year will show just that again.
Despite what the most rabid fans would say, preemptive expression of concern over several aspects of a game are still VERY valuable data to a game developer. IF the developer is willing to listen to their fans, it can help them avoid some pitfalls and it can give them some insight on what fans want or don't want.
Mind you countless companies PAY statistics professionals to be able to see what their customers want. Bioware should deem themselves lucky that their fans come here to share just that kind of data for free
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:26
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BlackyBlack wrote...
There'll always be a vocal minority of RPG elitists that have nothing better to do than complain. Just look at ME2. However, the majority preferred ME2 over ME1 and BioWare does what the majority wants
And obviously people tend to identify widespread opinions that go against theirs as the "vocal minority" without any kind of data to actually confirm that.
How droll...
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:27
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Oh, yes, this thread will stop all the "whining" right away! What a clever idea for a thread!
So what if people are nervous at the direction the game is going. They have a good reason for it. DA had a wonderful set-up, despite a bug or two, the conversation set-up, approval settings the companions, romances were all wonderful. In Awakenings and probably the Leliana dlc we see what's being taken away. Of course people aren't going to be happy. There are other ways to make a game sequel fun without taking away the awesome parts of the previous game. yet, they still do this. I hope they learn from the mistakes they did with ME2, tbh.
So what if people are nervous at the direction the game is going. They have a good reason for it. DA had a wonderful set-up, despite a bug or two, the conversation set-up, approval settings the companions, romances were all wonderful. In Awakenings and probably the Leliana dlc we see what's being taken away. Of course people aren't going to be happy. There are other ways to make a game sequel fun without taking away the awesome parts of the previous game. yet, they still do this. I hope they learn from the mistakes they did with ME2, tbh.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:28
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Go post in my who is excited for DA2 to show your support.Xathras1337 wrote...
How about it?
This is a bigass company that has made countless of godlike games, and once again proved that they are the kings of RPG with the recent DA:O and ME2.
They are gods that make awesome games, and they know what they are doing. We should be thankful for them making such awesome games, not whining over all the things that you expected to see, and prejudging the game like it has already been released. No, we should be happy that they are making another (most likely) awesome game, and we should praise them for it.
That's all.
The only positive thread there is lol.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:31
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There's nothing wrong with people having opinions, it's that people always seem to think there opinion is the absolute truth and fact of the matter.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:31
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Abriael_CG wrote...
And obviously people tend to identify widespread opinions that go against theirs as the "vocal minority" without any kind of data to actually confirm that.
http://social.biowar...596/polls/1670/
http://social.biowar...093/polls/1659/
http://social.biowar...596/polls/4081/
GameSpot User Scores:
ME1: 9.1 360, 8.9 PC
ME2: 9.4 360, 9.2 PC
You were saying ?
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:34
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BlackyBlack wrote...
You were saying ?
Mass Effect sold more than Mass Effect 2, and it's unlikely ME2 will ever get near to close the gap. This despite the fact that EA made an enormous marketing effort to push the sequel.
You were saying?
Modifié par Abriael_CG, 09 juillet 2010 - 01:35 .
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:36
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lol, ME1 has been out for 3 years, ME2 has been out for 6 months.Abriael_CG wrote...
BlackyBlack wrote...
You were saying ?
Mass Effect sold more than Mass Effect 2, and it's unlikely ME2 will even get near to close the gap.
You were saying?
It also depend where you read your info. From what I've read ME1 sold 2.6 million in 6 months. ME2 sold 2 million in 1 week
Modifié par BlackyBlack, 09 juillet 2010 - 01:41 .
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:37
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Abriael crits Blacky for 100 holy damage
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:39
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we see possible flaws appearing in a possibly great game. We want to make sure bioware knows that those flaws might be there and we don't like it. There's really not much else to do with hardly any information about the game.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:40
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Abriael_CG wrote...
BlackyBlack wrote...
You were saying ?
Mass Effect sold more than Mass Effect 2, and it's unlikely ME2 will ever get near to close the gap. This despite the fact that EA made an enormous marketing effort to push the sequel.
You were saying?
Also, Microsoft pushed BioWare to release right before holiday season, while EA let BioWare release during one of the worst times of the year to sell video games.
You still haven't told me who the new king of RPGs is.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:40
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BlackyBlack wrote...
lol, ME1 has been out for 3 years, ME2 has been out for 6 months. And where did you get info how much it sold ?
Vgchartz is the only source we have, so we'll have to go with that.
You should also know that unless some game-changing additions are released (like the witcher's enhanced edition for instance), the vast majority of a game's sales are made on the first 2-3 months.
@Ecael: lol. The holiday season is good for consoles, it doesn't work the same with lower priced products like games. It's normally too crowded for that. Mass Effect was released in an extremely crowded (and as such unfavorable) period, while Mass Effect 2 didn't have much competition if at all at release.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:42
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There's always the possibility of:Abriael_CG wrote...
BlackyBlack wrote...
lol, ME1 has been out for 3 years, ME2 has been out for 6 months. And where did you get info how much it sold ?
Vgchartz is the only source we have, so we'll have to go with that.
You should also know that unless some game-changing additions are released (like the witcher's enhanced edition for instance), the vast majority of a game's sales are made on the first 2-3 months.
Mass Effect 2: Game of the Year Edition. Includes all mission DLC released in the year 2010.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:42
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Ecael, as always, WIN !
Anyway, from what I've read ME1 sold 2.6 million in 6 months. ME2 sold 2 million in 1 week
Anyway, from what I've read ME1 sold 2.6 million in 6 months. ME2 sold 2 million in 1 week
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:43
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Ecael wrote...
Abriael_CG wrote...
BlackyBlack wrote...
You were saying ?
Mass Effect sold more than Mass Effect 2, and it's unlikely ME2 will ever get near to close the gap. This despite the fact that EA made an enormous marketing effort to push the sequel.
You were saying?
Also, Microsoft pushed BioWare to release right before holiday season, while EA let BioWare release during one of the worst times of the year to sell video games.
You still haven't told me who the new king of RPGs is.
That chart says Xbox 360 sales only. I'd like to see others like perhaps the PC sales or the overall sale figures.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:43
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Wait. ME2 was an RPG? I surely missed it since there was so much shooting all the time. Are you asking who is the king of RPGs now? It depends on preference. For you: Bioware. For a friend of mine: Bethesda. For me: Obsidian (don't start to ****, I like their games).Xathras1337 wrote...
How about it?
This is a bigass company that has made countless of godlike games, and once again proved that they are the kings of RPG with the recent DA:O and ME2.
They are gods that make awesome games, and they know what they are doing. We should be thankful for them making such awesome games, not whining over all the things that you expected to see, and prejudging the game like it has already been released. No, we should be happy that they are making another (most likely) awesome game, and we should praise them for it.
That's all.
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Posté 09 juillet 2010 - 01:44
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Xathras1337 wrote...
How about it?
This is a bigass company that has made countless of godlike games, and once again proved that they are the kings of RPG with the recent DA:O and ME2.
They are gods that make awesome games, and they know what they are doing. We should be thankful for them making such awesome games, not whining over all the things that you expected to see, and prejudging the game like it has already been released. No, we should be happy that they are making another (most likely) awesome game, and we should praise them for it.
That's all.
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I don't praise them, I pay them.
And they reward me with removing everything that made DA.O good, and keeping all that is bad. This bigass company is sliding down the slope of fast-paced console-games, and if that is what you want, fine. It is, however, not what I want, so how about you just voice your own opinion, and stop telling others not to voice theirs?
