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[SHITBULLET]

So basically there's gonna be a good Hawke and a bad Hawke with a system like the paragon/renegade one from ME. I suppose playing your own character is completely out of the question now, you're either a douchebag Hawke or the messiah Hawke.

[Valmy]

Noobius_Maximo wrote...

My god, you guys are hilarious.

Hehe just you wait.  The next several months should be fun as more information comes out.

I am a little shocked about how soon this thing is being released.  Next Spring?  Really?

[kyles3]

dragon age origins: spiritual successor to baldur's gate

dragon age 2: spiritual successor to mass effect 2

[mopotter]

Valmy wrote...

swirlwind wrote...

I would've preferred a silent protagonist, but I refuse to be disheartened by this news. I only hope the voice actors are superb, as in Jennifer Hale and not Mark Meer.

Poor Mark.  I  thought he did a good job in ME2 but yeah he had some really bad moments in ME1.

I thought he did too.  He sort of grew with the character.  

[Lady Catastrophe]

Crrash wrote...
Mass Effect felt like i was watching it.
Dragon Age felt like i was living it.

This.

[UberDuber]

Ruin are fantasy Bioware.

[mahony427]

Listen to what your saying : voiced main charakter is ruining the game? ME replica? Are you mad!? It makes a lot more cinematic experience! I approve 100% this improvment, I'm sick of main charakters who looks like ( Chuck Norris - the same dumb face without a change, never know if he/she is happy,sad, bored, angry.... ) Major improvement. Slap your faces you goddamm haters or I'll do it!

[Brockololly]

Jestina wrote...

VA kills games. It means load of content that could have been in the game gets cut to cover expenses for VA.

Bingo- this game is no doubt going to be shorter and more linear than Origins. VO costs tons of money and kills choices in the writing.

Herr Uhl wrote...

I wonder if they will have the complete texts or just something that describes whether you're cranky or happy.

I hate the ME system of guessing Shep's intentions. There better not be a damn dialogue wheel....

Tsuga C wrote...

If true, this is absolutely disgraceful. 
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The writing was on the wall by stripping out the Origins. Sadly this is just the nail in the coffin.

This sucks:(

Modifié par Brockololly, 09 juillet 2010 - 05:57 .

[Anathemic]

Crrash wrote...

Spear-Thrower wrote...

Crrash wrote...

Spear-Thrower wrote...

I'm happy. Silent protagonists are no better than cardboard cutouts.

well thank god the main character in dragon age wasn't silent. Mine talked quite a lot. And she had a nice voice, exactly the right one and she said things with exactly the intonation i intended.

So you basically imagined the main character's voice? Or maybe you're referring to "would you like me to fetch a ladder?" haha.

Silent protagonists are a poor substitute for actual spoken dialog in a cinematic game. And that's clearly what DA2 intends to be.

it's the "would you like to fe- NO of course not!

well i might be in the minority, but as i said in another thread, the fact that there was no voice acting let me immerse so much into the game that i did not even notice that there was no voice acting for my character. She just talked as intended her to.
Mass Effect felt like i was watching it.
Dragon Age felt like i was living it.

Valmy wrote...

Crrash wrote...
of course it's
bad. it means that hawke will have less possible lines and that each
line is said in only one possible way which you might actually not agree
with (one of my gripes with Mass Effect. Doesn't help that there what i
select and what Shepard says are most often completely different
things)

I do not think the first premise is true
but yeah the second one will be true and that is unfortunate.

the first part is probable since Bioware will have to pay for each extra line. Now imagine there is an amount of Dialog like in Dragon Age. That would be way to expensive to voice ALL of that, i think

Modifié par Anathemic, 09 juillet 2010 - 05:58 .

[ITSSEXYTIME]

Valmy wrote...

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...
So if I go kill him in DA:O does that mean that the abomination known as DA2 will cease to exist?

What if DA2 is good?  I mean hypothetically.

It may very well be a good game, but I'm not going to enjoy it if I'm constantly going "gee, what if they had actually made a sequel to dragon age instead of some spin off series".

I'd rather just avoid the entire game altogether and spend my money somewhere else where developers actually deliver their fans what they want instead of changing things up to appease the crowd that didn't even play their game the first time around. (You know, the people who complained about graphics and your character not being voiced)

[mopotter]

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

If the dialogue system is like The Witcher then a voiced protag will be bearable, but if it's alpha protocol/mass effect style then I really am not interested.

Also:
"As the Grey Warden from Dragon Age: Origins was fighting darkspawn, Hawke was living in Lothering. "

So if I go kill him in DA:O does that mean that the abomination known as DA2 will cease to exist?

Do we know the time line on this?  For some reason I was thinking DA2 would be more than a few years after DAO.

[Valmy]

kyles3 wrote...

dragon age origins: spiritual successor to baldur's gate

dragon age 2: spiritual successor to mass effect 2

You really do think they are turning this game into a shooter don't you?  I mean I am a little leery on the supposed new combat system but this is really silly.

Modifié par Valmy, 09 juillet 2010 - 05:58 .

[Brockololly]

mahony427 wrote...

Listen to what your saying : voiced main charakter is ruining the game? ME replica? Are you mad!? It makes a lot more cinematic experience! !

Yeah.... if I want a cinematic experience I'll go watch a movie. If I want to play a ROLE PLAYING GAME, I'd expect to be able to properly ROLE PLAY by assuming the ROLE of the PC. Having voiced dialogue strips away the RP experience.

[Clover Rider]

Valmy wrote...

kyles3 wrote...

dragon age origins: spiritual successor to baldur's gate

dragon age 2: spiritual successor to mass effect 2

You really do think they are turning this game into a shooter don't you?  I mean I am a little leery on the supposed new combat system but this is really silly.

Some think Mass Effect 2 was a bad RPG and ME1 was not .

[Eleinehmm]

Crrash wrote...

Mass Effect felt like i was watching it.
Dragon Age felt like i was living it.

Agreed - Except in the  case  of DAO it was  ( for me at least)  like I was writing it. – A sort of old school D&D feeling, if you like.

[saMoorai]

im ok with this. because unlike all the other people whining i can still connect to my Character even though he has a voice he is still my character because i choose his Personality, Appearance, and Abilities, which is why My Shepard is MY Shepard, i choose everything about him same thing in Alpha Protocol. i dont see why people are complaining about this just because your character is VO doesnt mean you cant choose His/Her personality

[flem1]

There's no indication we'll have the wheel. The Leliana DLC system seems more likely (maybe I should buy that now)...

[CultKiller]

As long as the voice acting is good, I'm ok with this. I'd prefer a silent pc, but I'll reserve my judgment on wether or not to get this game till I hear the voices. As for complaints, you know this is *all* subject to opinion. Just like the forums are divided between likeing vo and not likeing vo, the forums will be divided between who likes the actors and who doesn't.

Who do you think bioware listens to more? The people who whine, or the people who give constructive criticism? When thinking about what the future holds for gaming, in order to get your voice heard, you need to provide constructed criticism, not whining. Also, I think it's best that all those saying vo is a deal breaker wait until you at least hear the voices. Who knows, you may end up being one of the ones who like the voices.

[Deviija]

I would have preferred a silent Hawk as well, but... if wishes were pennies.



That said, one of my top hopes for who will voice female Hawk is: Grey DeLisle.

[Sigma Tauri]

I couldn't give a flying **** about Hawke being voiced. The four other facts sound amazing. Maybe it's just naivete and being enthralled by the novelty of DA2's approach, but that sounds so ambitious that it may even surpass BG2. I'm hopeful.

Modifié par monkeycamoran, 09 juillet 2010 - 06:04 .

[Clover Rider]

Deviija wrote...


I would have preferred a silent Hawk as well, but... if wishes were pennies.

That said, one of my top hopes for who will voice female Hawk is: Grey DeLisle.

Can she do it in her crazy voice?

[ITSSEXYTIME]

Valmy wrote...

Crrash wrote...
of course it's bad. it means that hawke will have less possible lines and that each line is said in only one possible way which you might actually not agree with (one of my gripes with Mass Effect. Doesn't help that there what i select and what Shepard says are most often completely different things)

I do not think the first premise is true but yeah the second one will be true and that is unfortunate.

Fully voiced is just something we will have to adjust to in mainstream games.  There is probably no going back.

Then Bioware should have put in the extra time, money and effort and push the boundaries and had fully voiced characters for each race/gender.  

They're killing the role playing potential for the game entirely for the sake of being cinematic... that's what is most frustrating I think.  What they don't get is that my imagination is enough for me, I don't need my character to speak because I hear how they're speaking the line in my head how I want them to speak it, I don't need to see their (god awful) facial expressions to understand the emotion the character is feeling in the scene. (Anyone else cringe everytime the "horrified" facial expression was used in DA:O?  It always looked stupid and exaggerated)

I think this is why most people say they're turning it into mass effect 2: There's only going to be a handful of options at any point, and because of that they're going to be polar opposites in terms of personality and delivery. (Eg Good nice guy or **** gal)  

[zahra]

I wonder what the reasoning is behind this decision. Its not like there was a mass outcry for a voiced character.



My brother tried playing DA and his main complaint was "There is too much text. Its boring." He is part of the pew pew crowd and they didn't even play the game in the first place. Why appease them with a dialog wheel.



I am assuming there will be a blasted dialog wheel since it would be silly to write out the whole text of what the character is going to say anyway.



This is so disheartening.

[Nonvita]

I had no problem with an unvoiced character *ever.* When you speak in real life, you're mostly just hearing what's in your head anyway, so thinking the lines or saying them out loud yourself feels way more personal then having someone else's voice imposed over it. It feels strangely voyeuristic hearing someone else speak for you. Not to mention that now everyone's characters will become superficially more similar--you can't make both a snivelling plotting evil genius and a sweet, innocently naive paladin--the voice will make everyone sound like the same old strong handsome hero/heroine. Bye bye real character customization.

If I wanted to play a voiced game with one main hero and so on, I'd play a different game than DA:O. Those games are fine, but there's no reason to change a major part of what made DA:O so special to so many people! Honestly, this is pretty close to a deal breaker for me. My favorite part of DA:O was making unique and wildly different characters, and I just don't see that happening anymore.