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[rooky91]

The lack of comments from Bioware is disturbing, do they no longer care what fans think?

[blu_skye]

This doesn't sound good at all. One of the great things about Bioware games was that you could be "anything you wanted to be." Now, it sounds like this is more like a console game which I do not play. I definitely won't be buying sight unseen, and will wait for reviews and bug reports to come in.

From the Gameinformer DA2 hub - "extensive improvements to the conversation system, combat and structure".  Let's hope the conversation system was isn't like Awakening.  It seems too Mass Effect to me, which I thought was a decent enought game in it's own merrit but nowhere near DA:O

This looks very disappointing overall just from the little bit shown.

Modifié par blu_skye, 10 juillet 2010 - 11:53 .

[Goldrock]

give me a break all because hes got a name all the dang characters had names in da last names you just picked the first name just like mass effect shephard was the last name so puuuleease quit freakin speculating. funniest thing is when the game comes out everyones gonna run and pick it up its a dang game its for entertainment its not a political debate its not a life changing event we will all be ok!!!!!! im pretty sure they will add player made stuff again so just wait till the tool set come out make the blasted thing anyway you want if not suck it up dont play it.

[Podskalda]

It is a huge disappointment with BioWare decided to destroy everything that made the Origins and excellent game and try to impose upon us another Mass Effect clone.

[petirr]

I don't want Mass Age 2....

[blu_skye]

Ha, they already are trying to grab yer cash. Looks like you can pre-order from the EA store. After the Awakening debacle, I'm just going to wait.

[Wivvix]

Goldrock wrote...

give me a break all because hes got a name all the dang characters had names in da last names you just picked the first name just like mass effect shephard was the last name so puuuleease quit freakin speculating. funniest thing is when the game comes out everyones gonna run and pick it up its a dang game its for entertainment its not a political debate its not a life changing event we will all be ok!!!!!! im pretty sure they will add player made stuff again so just wait till the tool set come out make the blasted thing anyway you want if not suck it up dont play it.

Why do you care? Why are you even bothering to respond? You clearly don't fall into the category of RPG gamers from BG days who care for rich, diverse and immersive fantasy RPG's with traditional character building development. Judging from your post Bioware can do no wrong, hence your opinion is about as critically considered as one of those dolts who think Gears of War is the best FPS EVAR!!1!1!!11!

The fact of the matter is that the fantasy RPG crowd won't run out and pick it up. They would have, if it followed the same formula as Origins, but because of the significant changes to dialogue, character selection, customisation and storyline interaction, most are in fact likely to wait for the reviews to come in, and shed light on whether these changes have been made for the better. Experiences of the past, particularly with regard to other Bioware IP such as the sequel to the original and critically acclaimed Mass Effect, suggest that these changes will probably render the experience similarly deficient as Mass Effect 2 was compared to Mass Effect. Mass effect 2 was still a great game, but it didn't compare to the first in terms of well refined traditional RPG elements. It was clearly developed and tweaked for the mainstream, and unfortunately with regards to Dragon Age, this will mean it takes a pretty big dive in terms of review scores if they don't deliver on the traditional RPG elements, which at present are very much in question.

Modifié par Wivvix, 10 juillet 2010 - 12:24 .

[kansadoom]

Well this is a bit disappointing.......

[Gaxhung]

Calm down doomsayers, stop focusing on the negative, and realize its a game that we know close to nothing about. Its not like BW is in charge of selecting your next president, people are acting like the Taliban is taking over their country or something.

Modifié par Gaxhung, 10 juillet 2010 - 01:58 .

[Celies]

Sounds good! Will pre-order later today!

[MDarwin]

Goldrock wrote...

give me a break all because hes got a name all the dang characters had names in da last names you just picked the first name just like mass effect shephard was the last name so puuuleease quit freakin speculating. funniest thing is when the game comes out everyones gonna run and pick it up its a dang game its for entertainment its not a political debate its not a life changing event we will all be ok!!!!!! im pretty sure they will add player made stuff again so just wait till the tool set come out make the blasted thing anyway you want if not suck it up dont play it.

I don't think that there will be a ts for it. Than again, who knows? I will wait and see about getting DA2. The little info there is about it, does not impresses me at all. I just hope DA2 is not gonna be an Action RPG. That's all.

[marko2te]

I preordered DA:O because I felt it was a return to the roots of BG, and while game was not perfect it was still a great game and a great RPG. Because of this news that give impression of shifting design to be more like ME2 at this point i lost all interest for this game. Dont get me wrong I love ME but I love it for different reasons then DA. I want to play DA and ME and not ME and another fantasy ME.



I will still look for a signs of hope in the future news but at this point I only feel disappointment.

[Katzarina]

I find the idea of one character with predetermined race sad I enjoyed the indepth customization of DA-O, and the way you became a part of the game. When I played Awakening I found it more restrictive with the characters not having the same relational abilities that were in DA-O. I liked tormenting the companions the way you could in DA-O and had hoped to be able to do the same in Awakening, but found it to be disappointing. I want to see the game take on a life of it's own like DA-O did and transport you into it like a true RPG should.

[blu_skye]

This is simply the next step of the phasing out of Bioware. I knew once EA purchased Bioware the end was coming. Unfortunately, I think DA:O consumed too many resources at Bioware necessitating the deal with the devil (venture capitalists) a few years ago. Once the VCs have their hooks in you, they now have control of the company. Thus the sale to EA. EA doesn't care about PC games, only consoles. Real RPGs take a lot of time and resources to develop. You can't churn them out like a sports game. Football, hockey, soccer etc, are all the same "story" and "game" regardless which version you play. Gameplay is a bit different from year to year and graphics have certainly improved but Football is still football. You don't have a different story and characters and locations.

All you had to do was do a little history lesson with what happened to Origin Systems. A fantastic RPG/Adventure game company, purchased by EA and destroyed. Now relegated to the scrap heap of history. Bioware will come to the same fate. Truly sad what has happened.

I don't want to be lead around by the nose in someone else's story. I want the story to become my own. The Ultima series, Baldur's gate series, and to somewhat lesser degree DA:O allowed you to do just that.    DA:A started the consolization, and DA2, or should I say Dragon Effect will complete it. I just don't see myself buying this game.

Modifié par blu_skye, 10 juillet 2010 - 02:47 .

[Kalcalan]

Wivvix wrote...

because of the significant changes to dialogue, character selection, customisation and storyline interaction, most are in fact likely to wait for the reviews to come in, and shed light on whether these changes have been made for the better.

QFT.

I think there are some good things (mainly that actions will change the story as it unfolds) but judging by the information available right now DA2 is going to be really different from DAO.

I like the idea of a focus on the persona but it comes at a steep price. No non humans is pretty bad IMO. Voice over can be good if the voice acting is stellar but it can also be a real pain if it's not.

It will be a much different game for better or worse. I personally don't care much for ME2 so I can't say that I relish the idea of being forced into playing with such limitations.

If DAO had only one origin with only one race there would be very little replay value. I just hope that the focus on Hawke is worth the sacrifice that is being made and that the choices will really make a difference.

Modifié par Kalcalan, 10 juillet 2010 - 03:05 .

[jableskage]

Not convinced this will be a worthy sequel to DAO? Will wait to see some footage and go from there.

[DPB]

rooky91 wrote...

The lack of comments from Bioware is disturbing, do they no longer care what fans think?

It's not that they don't care, it's just that they're not allowed to tell us anymore. The marketing departments have a strong hold over what the developers can and can't say these days.

[SkittlesKat96]

Seems like this game will be different to the first, it would still be good to see some darkspawn in the game though. Not too many but some.

Looking great so far Bioware!

[micky d]

i am kinda excited to play another story and so on... but idk about u guys i really wanted to finally elminate the dark spawn from the world...

[tmp7704]

micky d wrote...

i am kinda excited to play another story and so on... but idk about u guys i really wanted to finally elminate the dark spawn from the world...

Even the epilogue to the first game made it perfectly clear there was large groups of Darkspawn afterwards and that they were "incredibly difficult to remove". Not to mention the game itself took pains to spell it out defeating the archdemon doesn't actually eliminate darkspawn, it just sends it running back underground to breed some more (and dig for another lizard)

Modifié par tmp7704, 10 juillet 2010 - 04:49 .

[xistfirat]

rooky91 wrote...

The lack of comments from Bioware is disturbing, do they no longer care what fans think?

are you kidding ? they did not tell the major things about the game yet, what the hell do you wait from them ?

[Darthain]

Probably been said, but what made Dragon age exceptional, was the origins. No one had tried that, and I understand it must of been a huge endeavor. But to follow it up with a sequel without origins, just seems lacking.



That said , I am sure it will be excellent, even if the approach is similar to mass effect, I was just hoping each title would stay what it was.

[Sable Phoenix]

The more I learn the less excited I am about Dragon Age 2. Seeing it announced so soon after the first one came out was a red flag in and of itself, but Dragon Age isn't Mass Effect. Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 were good games, but Dragon Age was better. The dialogue wheel especially is something that sounds great in concept, but in actual execution it suffers quite a bit; I can't tell you how often I selected a dialogue option in Mass Effect only to be surprised by what was actually spoken by Shepard, because it didn't sound at all like the little "dialogue tag" on the wheel. A named character with a predetermined voice and inflections and personality is not what made Dragon Age great; it was the investment in the characters, and the feeling that your player character was you, or an aspect of you.

Come on, BioWare. The Mass Effect universe is your "24 in Space". The Mass Effect universe is your venue for your interactive movies. Dragon Age was supposed to be the universe you would use for your real RPGs, your Baldur's Gate homages, the titles for the people who like the way you used to do things. The Mass Effect design philosophy works great for Mass Effect, I wouldn't change its approach at all, but keep it in that setting. Merging the design philosophies, and especially moving towards the shallower and more passive system, will not result in a broader appeal.

You're moving exactly the wrong direction with this.

(As an aside, didn't Dragon Age sell more copies than the Mass Effect titles?  Shifting the design of the higher-selling product to that of the lower-selling one seems like they're shooting themselves in the foot...)

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 10 juillet 2010 - 06:50 .

[ITSSEXYTIME]

petirr wrote...

I don't want Mass Age 2....

Mass Age Mike Hawke

[Elminster69]

 BioWare could put Dennis the Menace to fill the shoes of the player character and the game would still kick some mafu**ing ****  BioWare hasn't failed me yet, and I have no reason to believe it will