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[ElvaliaRavenHart]

blu_skye wrote...

Ha, they already are trying to grab yer cash. Looks like you can pre-order from the EA store. After the Awakening debacle, I'm just going to wait.

I'm a rogue, they can't pick my pocket, that easily.   

[element eater]

wow more bad information fully voiced and character drriven guess this wont be the game i was hoping for. voiced chars never rearly feel like theyre your character. I thought the DA franchise was meant to trace back to the golden days of Baldurs gate i guess not.
not even realy sure i want this game now probably just borrow or rent it budget purchase at best

whos the heroe of kirkwall? not sure that i care

Modifié par element eater, 10 juillet 2010 - 07:45 .

[pitchblaq]

Wivvix wrote...


Why do you care? Why are you even bothering to respond? You clearly don't fall into the category of RPG gamers from BG days who care for rich, diverse and immersive fantasy RPG's with traditional character building development. Judging from your post Bioware can do no wrong, hence your opinion is about as critically considered as one of those dolts who think Gears of War is the best FPS EVAR!!1!1!!11!

As someone who's played Baldur's Gate, I think you're overreacting. "Rich, diverse, and immersive" aren't limited to D&D simulators with silent heroes, listed conversation options, and multiple playable races.

The fact of the matter is that the fantasy RPG crowd won't run out and pick it up. They would have, if it followed the same formula as Origins...

Plenty of the Baldur's Gate crowd was upset with Origins as well, for rapid health regeneration, a lack of permadeth, simplified towns and dungeons, less freedom and a smaller relevant cast, but I digress...

...because of the significant changes to dialogue...

It's a wheel instead of a list, and it's voiced. If that's a 'step backward,' then I must be underestimating how fragile this genre is. Do shapes determine what's 'rich, diverse, or immersive' now?

...character selection, customisation...

The only indication of any change to this has been that you are a human. Racial perspective is minimized, but the depth at which you can customize your character, both visually and through feats and skills hasn't been addressed in the slightest. For all any of us know, it may very well be even deeper.

...and storyline interaction...

...with respect to what? Is this regarding the conversation wheel again? Because the article details how your actions more readily shape the world around you, actually broadening your interaction with the story rather than seeing such consequences only unfold in a text epilogue.

...most are in fact likely to wait for the reviews to come in, and shed light on whether these changes have been made for the better.

With all due respect, you're deciding a great deal from a wheel and a race.

Modifié par pitchblaq, 10 juillet 2010 - 07:57 .

[Riona45]

blu_skye wrote...
 One of the great things about Bioware games was that you could be "anything you wanted to be."

Nostalgia filter strikes again?

I don't think there's any Bioware game that lets you be anything you want to be.  If there is, it definitely wasn't DA.  Even DA, with six origins, couldn't please everyone.  I remember when people were complaining about how you couldn't be a human commoner or a mage who wasn't trained in the Circle.

Modifié par Riona45, 10 juillet 2010 - 08:21 .

[element eater]

pitchblaq wrote...

Plenty of the Baldur's Gate crowd was upset with Origins as well, for rapid health regeneration, a lack of permadeth, simplified towns and dungeons, less freedom and a smaller relevant cast, but I digress...

true but it was still a hell of a lot closer to baldurs gate then anything else modern

the people complaining about the changes (myself included) probably are judging on too little information never the less the information that has been released still sugests fundermental changes to the way the game will feel even if the game play itself isnt overly differant  so people do have a valid reason to be concerned imo

[Tezzajh]

how the heck can you call this a sequal? it's not , a sequal is a carry on and without your warden from origins or awkening your not carrying on the story, Look at halo for example it was called halo 1 2 and 3 cause it follows the cheif then they named others ODST AND REACH cause it dont follow the same character .



unless they rap up the warden in dlc or expansion or even if carry DA2 to DA3 i think this is stupid

[Avilan II]

Tezzajh wrote...

how the heck can you call this a sequal? it's not , a sequal is a carry on and without your warden from origins or awkening your not carrying on the story, Look at halo for example it was called halo 1 2 and 3 cause it follows the cheif then they named others ODST AND REACH cause it dont follow the same character .

unless they rap up the warden in dlc or expansion or even if carry DA2 to DA3 i think this is stupid

Well, you have classic games such as Fallout 1 and Fallout 2, which are about totally different characters.

[Riona45]

The word sequel does not imply that the original protagonist will be used, and I don't recall the developers ever saying that future DA games would feature the Warden as the star (does anyone have such a quote?).

[pitchblaq]

Avilan II wrote...

Well, you have classic games such as Fallout 1 and Fallout 2, which are about totally different characters.

I'm sure the same can be said of most RPGs. Relatively speaking, only a handful of RPGs really carry over your character from the previous iteration; most use the opportunity to add to the world in ways that the first character wouldn't or can't and tell a story in the same world from a different perspective.

[cadillac76]

im glad you get to see other countries besides ferelden. it gets a bit old after a while

[sonlockdon]

i think he is going to have a marcus phenix type voice "from gears of war" hawke kinda of has his appearance to. honestly i dont care if theres a fixed character what will his apearance matter when you have a helmet on him. just as long as i can change his appearance during the game witch im sure you will be able to. and i will exspect to have total control like DA:O about how the life and story was played. 

Modifié par sonlockdon, 10 juillet 2010 - 10:39 .

[Riona45]

Hawke isn't necessarily male, or a "fixed character."

[Rainstorm01]

i dont understand why everyone is mourning over the loss of their own hero as of now? DA2 is bound to follow another story but BW never said there wouldnt be more DLC or expansions for DA1. Im guessing we havent seen the last of '' the story of DA1'' even tho DA2 is going to be released ....

[ECV Press]

Sad about the inability to be elf or dwarf, but at least I get to play a woman. Can't get into a game unless I can play my own sex.

[wildhaggisis]

Tezzajh wrote...

how the heck can you call this a sequal? it's not , a sequal is a carry on and without your warden from origins or awkening your not carrying on the story, Look at halo for example it was called halo 1 2 and 3 cause it follows the cheif then they named others ODST AND REACH cause it dont follow the same character .

unless they rap up the warden in dlc or expansion or even if carry DA2 to DA3 i think this is stupid

sequel means

"A narrative that is written after another narrative set in the same universe, especially a narrative that is chronologically set after its predecessors, or (perhaps improper usage) any narrative that has a preceding narrative of its own"

the lord of the rings is a sequel to the hobbit yet bilbo is barely in it, son of a witch is a sequel to wicked yet Elpbatha (the wicked witch of the west) is only mentioned by name, its still set in the same place that is Thedas, its even still in the dragon age... so it fits the sequel catagory. 

[Decklun]

I think the setting of your character being less than heroic is a great setting, sets you up for a great story of redemption, or a life characterized by deception. Either fooling the whole world into believing your the greatest thing since sliced bread (but truly being a coward) or actually becoming that hero and redeeming yourself for your past actions. It's good that for once your character isn't the stereotypical "hair-blowing-in-the-wind-while-standing-atop-the-corpses-of-thine-foes" hero, and he's more like the rest of us, at least at first, a flawed human being.

Also I completely trust Bioware on anything they touch, no studio commits so fervently to taking whatever risks are necessary to meld gaming and art.

I bet they'll have Morrigan in the story too, since I thought she left Ferelden, and your story takes place over a whole decade, and whatever she's got in that belly will probably come into play over that time.

[Solmanian]

10 year timeline? interesting. i hope it's not in actual gametime like the original. LOL.

[LaurenceEM]

Riona45 wrote...

Hawke isn't necessarily male, or a "fixed character."

"You can play only as a human" definately sounds like some kind of fixing to me.

Also while, it'd be cool to hear a voiced character, you're bound to get stuck listening to "Gruff and tough" male voice as usual. I can't speak for others but I enjoyed choosing the battle voice even if it was very very subtle differences.
I doubt it'll happen, but they should let you choose a voice for your character too. But like I said, crazy unlikely.

[Riona45]

LaurenceEM wrote...

"You can play only as a human" definately sounds like some kind of fixing to me.

I guess that depends on what people mean when they say "fixed."  To me it implies that the character is completely premade.

I do get why the lack of racial choice bothers people. 

Modifié par Riona45, 11 juillet 2010 - 12:19 .

[darkrose]

ECV Press wrote...

Sad about the inability to be elf or dwarf, but at least I get to play a woman. Can't get into a game unless I can play my own sex.

I'm wondering how much of an actual difference there will be, though. The marketing is all about the male character, apparently because female gamers are such a minority that there's no reason to bother marketing to us.

[zwkgb2009]

I just really disappointed about not being able to change races for main character. Other new staffs are fine to me.

[Bio Addict]

Fact 6 Hawke was born in a log cabin, that he built with his own hands.



Fact 7 Underneath Hawkes beard there is no chin, there is only the Keening Blade.

[Eludajae]

People are jumping all over this because you cant do a few things in DA2 you did in DA:O. First, I like that its voiced over, I really felt after playing ME2 that it was rather annoying to have no voice of my own. Second, I like that its concentrating on the character and not the event around them. One of my favorite parts of ME2 and 1 is the story is about YOUR character, yes there is a plotline but the story is yours, in DA:O the story was about the Grey Wardens, Allistar and the things people did around you. Yes you influenced them but you were always acting from a point of weakness, i.e reacting after the fact to what others did. NOW, people will be reacting to what I do. I like that alot.

[caffinefiend23]

Why do I have a feeling I'll hate myself for poking my head outta my hole and commenting here...

Today, my sister found me at work and tossed me her copy of Game Informer... telling me 'it's about... your game," with the same disdain she holds towards anything I enjoy...

I headed to the break room like the horrible sales-person I am and flipped through the article.

I have mixed feelings of The Second Hero Of Thedas. (I still don't think of it as a true sequel...)

My major concern is the graphics... I admit, I play on a console, and I LOVE DA:O... never thought it looked as bad as people say... but from what I've seen of screen shots from the article, The Second Hero Of Thedas looks rather washed out and cartoony... reminds me of Americanized Anime... almost like Re-Animatrix or that animated Pitch Black thing... or Everquest 2 graphics set to low rez... /cough

Possibly the concept art making me think that... but the screen shots in the article aren't impressive... and I do HOPE against hope that the screenshots are just in test run... 'cuz it doesn't look bloodier or sexier...' more 'cartoonish and silly...'

Hawke being the surname isn't all that promising either... for trying to go with an old world theme... Hawke just sounds like a fanboi story char... but that's just my own bias... esp since there really isn't a first name you can give that doesn't sound silly...

On the flip, there was a small blurp from the article that shows some promise. I won't say what... but I HIGHLY recommend finding the article and reading the whole thing.

All in all... I'm still not conivinced the game will be worth the pre-order, but I will hold judgement until I see the first trailer that shows actual in-game screenies... and doesn't use some s*** song to hype it up....

/jumps back in hole, activates biotic shield... loads crossbow...

Modifié par caffinefiend23, 11 juillet 2010 - 05:56 .

[Vicious]

People are jumping all over this because you cant do a few things in DA2 you did in DA:O.

damn near all of the pathetic fanragers will wind up buying the game.



its hilarious.