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[Ulicus]

Wait... so we've got "Hawke Facts" now? He's Duncan's kid, isn't he?

[phaonica]

Abandoning Lothering doesn't sound cowardly to me, any more than the HN abandoing Highever. He did, however, abandon Ferelden. Even a civilian or commoner could find some way to stay and help the kingdom.



Again, I don't know the circumstances, obviously, so I won't be so quick to call coward. And quite frankly, even if he did cowardly run away, I'm open to giving the character an opportunity to change. I'm not jumping to conclusions, I'm just giving my first impression, given so little to go on.

[elfdwarf]

noble human did fight darkspawn

hawke didn't fight darkspawn , run away like coward kind like logain ostagar

[rooky91]

Just one thing, I remember reading an interview from Bioware to IGN which said the reason you could sleep with only 1 person in ME is because you are a predefinded character, where in DAO you where you. Does this mean you can now only pick on person like in ME, not really a big deal to me just know a few people who won't like that.

[Riona45]

elfdwarf wrote...

noble human did fight darkspawn

The noble human had combat training.  We don't know if Hawke did. 

You know, helpless refugees (and, as mentioned before, they were not exclusively women and children) did exist in the first game--they were all over the place.  Many of them probably would have left Ferelden if they could have.

[JamesBattleToad]

"However, just because that one aspect of Hawke's backstory is set doesn't mean BioWare is eliminating character creation. You can still choose your class and customize your appearance... but the team promises that players can select either gender for the character."



Hm, this clears my mind slighty, at least we can customise his/her appearence (Thank God) shame about being restricted to Human though, oh and 'Hawke' is a stupid name.

[Warheadz]

AlexXIV wrote...

Adanu wrote...

kyles3 wrote...

Warheadz wrote...

I'm actually quite happy that he ran... If Hawker is going to have some kind of pre-set personality, i want it to be a sensible one, not wishy washy "Let's save the world!" one.

Why would he have fought the Blight? Plenty of jobs elsewhere.

abandoning your home and a chantry full of women and children is sensible? sounds more like cowardice. i don't want to play a coward.

What's he supposed to do, throw rocks at the darkspawn horde? He's a CIVILIAN AT THE TIME.

Just like the civillians who picked up swords or even forks and marched to Denerim in the last final battle. I can respect someone who throws a rock at an Archdemon. But someone who runs away is difficult to respekt. He didn't run to fight another day either. He ran, and didn't return, and now he is fighting, only for his own wealth it seems... well we gotta see what Bioware has in mind, but so far I am rather worried.

Sheesh you people, why should he have fought that darned darkspawn horde?
Even the almighty Warden did not defend Lothering.
They say Hawke lived in Lothering, not that he had any emotional connection to it. He's the champion of Kirkwall, not Lothering.
And what then if he had stayed behind and defended Lothering? The townsfolk fled and they wouldnt probably come back as the darkspawn keep coming from the south. The Battle for Lothering would have been a pointless one.

[AlexXIV]

phaonica wrote...

Abandoning Lothering doesn't sound cowardly to me, any more than the HN abandoing Highever. He did, however, abandon Ferelden. Even a civilian or commoner could find some way to stay and help the kingdom.

Again, I don't know the circumstances, obviously, so I won't be so quick to call coward. And quite frankly, even if he did cowardly run away, I'm open to giving the character an opportunity to change. I'm not jumping to conclusions, I'm just giving my first impression, given so little to go on.

Just to say that again. There is something called 'retreat'. Or if you want, 'run to fight another day'. It is a viable tactic and nothing dishonorable to run if the overall losses are higher if you fight. Like you run from an enemy today, to fight it on better odds tomorrow. Being brave does not mean that you have to be stupid. Just to clear that human noble thing up. Even if I forget about dialogue forcing the hero to run. What I don't understand is why the mother stays back. The father is good as dead already, and giving your life to defend a dead person seems stupid, especially if you have 2 sons who might use you, not to mention she could handle a blade, so she could fight darkspawn ... but I am just ranting away  there ...

Modifié par AlexXIV, 09 juillet 2010 - 10:30 .

[Eledion7]

I can't wait muahahaha, Hawke will be awsome and Im glad hes human, the other races kinda suck in the game except for the dalish which im sure well see again in this one

[Cypher0020]

I think Hawke's running away could be of many reasons



- maybe he/she is a kid?



- had no combat training?



- Perhaps his/her parents fled and took young Hawke



Plus... Lothering was taken over after the Warden and Co left. Plus the city was about 90% refugees, had little supplies, and was held together by a handful of Templars.....



Not the best fortified place in the world....oh and a supposingly unstoppable swath of demonic destruction....Loghain nearly had civil war.....



looking back on it... I don't blame Hawke for running....

[elfdwarf]

big woop

many game customize gender

[MaxQuartiroli]

AlexXIV wrote...

phaonica wrote...

Abandoning Lothering doesn't sound cowardly to me, any more than the HN abandoing Highever. He did, however, abandon Ferelden. Even a civilian or commoner could find some way to stay and help the kingdom.

Again, I don't know the circumstances, obviously, so I won't be so quick to call coward. And quite frankly, even if he did cowardly run away, I'm open to giving the character an opportunity to change. I'm not jumping to conclusions, I'm just giving my first impression, given so little to go on.

Just to say that again. There is something called 'retreat'. Or if you want, 'run to fight another day'. It is a viable tactic and nothing dishonorable to run if the overall losses are higher if you fight. Like you run from an enemy today, to fight it on better odds tomorrow. Being brave does not mean that you have to be stupid. Just to clear that human noble thing up. Even if I forget about dialogue forcing the hero to run. What I don't understand is why the mother stays back. The father is good as dead already, and giving your life to defend a dead person seems stupid, especially if you have 2 sons who might use you, not to mention she could handle a blade, so she could fight darkspawn ... but I am just ranting away  there ...

And don't forget that even our Warden didn't try to save Lothering, because we all knew that there wasn't anything we could do at that moment against a horde of darkspawn...Lothering was destroyed during the first days of the game, when Calian's army had just been destroyed and we had to rebuild an army

No one could ever save Lothering...

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 09 juillet 2010 - 10:36 .

[AlexXIV]

Cypher0020 wrote...

I think Hawke's running away could be of many reasons

- maybe he/she is a kid?

- had no combat training?

- Perhaps his/her parents fled and took young Hawke

Plus... Lothering was taken over after the Warden and Co left. Plus the city was about 90% refugees, had little supplies, and was held together by a handful of Templars.....

Not the best fortified place in the world....oh and a supposingly unstoppable swath of demonic destruction....Loghain nearly had civil war.....

looking back on it... I don't blame Hawke for running....

Actually, I could even give you an even better option. Hawke could have been hunted. Maybe either Darkspawn or some people wanted him or her dead. Bioware could come up with plenty good reasons. I just meant to say, I hope they will.

[Cypher0020]

Oh that's true! Hmmm...interesting.....awesome opening would be fleeing a ton of darkspawn.....

[iTomes]

well imo Hawke ran away because it was his only option instead of death. and why helping ferelden when ferelden didn't help him. the fereldan government didn't care for the faith of lothering, so going to the marshes seems kinda logical to me.

[phaonica]

AlexXIV wrote...

Just to say that again. There is something called 'retreat'. Or if you want, 'run to fight another day'.

Yeah, but all the way to the Free Marches? That's a long way to be called a retreat. Retreat implies that he intends to fight another day, but how was going all the way to the Free Marches necessary?

Edit: I take it back, retreat doesn't imply that.

Modifié par phaonica, 09 juillet 2010 - 10:41 .

[shadowpiranha]

I like the ten year period, I like that it's Hawke's story...I don't like that Hawke ran away from Ferelden during the Blight - assuming Hawke is a fully grown adult by then, that is (that's the type of person my Warden would punch in the face out of principle, if you're not fighting you can help those who are, I think).



However, I still feel like I know next to nothing about it, so I'm not gonna call it crap just yet. Though I agree with many of the things people are speaking negatively about (mainly the fully voiced thing). Still. I'll at least wait for the trailer.

[AlexXIV]

Cypher0020 wrote...

Oh that's true! Hmmm...interesting.....awesome opening would be fleeing a ton of darkspawn.....

Well not sure if you played Baldur's Gate, but the first thing the you do there is run away. You are foster child to some mighty wizard and he tries to prevent your arch enemy from getting you in his hands. Maybe Hawke is 'special', maybe some religious cult is after him, assassins. So he wouldn't have a chance to defend lothering or ferelden anyway because they would find him and kill him and maybe more than just him. Exile can be a pretty good idea under certain circumstances.

[MaxQuartiroli]

phaonica wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Just to say that again. There is something called 'retreat'. Or if you want, 'run to fight another day'.

Yeah, but all the way to the Free Marches? That's a long way to be called a retreat. Retreat implies that he intends to fight another day, but how was going all the way to the Free Marches necessary?

Edit: I take it back, retreat doesn't imply that.

Don't you think that it should be better to wait for see the full story of Hawke before to decide if he was or not a coward? Just saying...

[anillop]

I am getting a weird fable II vibe from the description of this game.

[Blakes 7]

Reasons against VO



VO is going to affect replays. In ME replaying the game with a different face was just jarring as you'd still hear the same voice coming from the 'new' character. Also eliminates roleplaying of situations that you do in your head.



Additionally VO limits narrative choice and flexibility because it costs "widgets" to voice different dialogues and options.



Bioware is being somewhat limited by new mainstream standards BUT ~ this is supposed to be an old school experience type of game



Sick of the rationale of "will cost widgets" given for limited choices in dialogue because when you forgo not having VO and expensive voice talent - you will have a more valid rpg experience and diverse options, additionally this formula for da has proven more popular than me's so what valid economic reason do they have to throw it away.

[phaonica]

shadowpiranha wrote...

I don't like that Hawke ran away from Ferelden during the Blight - assuming Hawke is a fully grown adult by then, that is (that's the type of person my Warden would punch in the face out of principle, if you're not fighting you can help those who are, I think).

I have this same reaction on behalf of my Warden.

However, I still feel like I know next to nothing about it, so I'm not gonna call it crap just yet. Though I agree with many of the things people are speaking negatively about (mainly the fully voiced thing). Still. I'll at least wait for the trailer.

Agreed again!

[phaonica]

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

phaonica wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Just to say that again. There is something called 'retreat'. Or if you want, 'run to fight another day'.

Yeah, but all the way to the Free Marches? That's a long way to be called a retreat. Retreat implies that he intends to fight another day, but how was going all the way to the Free Marches necessary?

Edit: I take it back, retreat doesn't imply that.

Don't you think that it should be better to wait for see the full story of Hawke before to decide if he was or not a coward? Just saying...

This is just my first impression. It *seems* cowardly, but I don't know the whole story, so I won't make a judgment.

[mcneil_1]

Maybe the funimation crowd will be doing the voices in the game while doing the dragon age movie?

[Usikan]

I think it all sounds great! And I do like adding voice for the reasons they say in point one in the article.