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[Laceit]

After last evening and everyones advice, it became obvious to me that I am in a different scenerio than many of you and some of you are plain full of , "excrement", to be polite. So, since I have not the ability to trap the **** out of the area, or AOE the area with Morrigan, lvl6, anybody want to elaborate what spells she has to AOE at lvl 6 or rain down heal spells. I decided to go with the deal with the top, head down, do what you can and retreat back up. Pulled it off and the game F'n crashed. Only the 2nd crash, so far. Grab an adult beverage, throw down some laundry, and fire up the auto save. Now, every time I do the restart, I have to deal with the preprogrammed  "mentally handicapped" tactics, so I do. I did not experience this last night or on the 1st run through tonight, but the npcs uptop on the next 2 attempts are so F'n lame they die in the friggtin fire. TWICE. Only Perth, Dwyn and the friggin spy survive. UP TOP. Before, I head down to an unbeatable mob that I have to retreat to beat. So anyone who says they beat it the 1st time or no villagers died, are either playing on easy mode or full of ****. But, I think what pisses me off the most is the npcs dying in the fire. Nice AI. From a pretty funny movie, I might not have this qoute right, but "You have to be a stupid MFer to get fired on your day off". Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap.

[Madlax27]

Wow, I actually defeated the mob down at the bottom without retreating on Hard difficulty. I was upset that I let one of the militia die (I'm playing a healer). I used about 7 lyrium potions and had my mana regeneration spell (Spellbloom) going as often as possible. Morrigan was there dealing DPS as a nuker while I focused on healing.



To be honest, you did Redcliff too soon if you are level 6. I recommend ALWAYS doing the Mage Tower first. Mage Tower really pumps up the strength of your main character (Bonus Stats in the Fade) and the levels of all your characters. I believe I was around level 10 when I started Redcliff.



If you really hate Redcliff that much, just abandon it. On my first playthrough I went to Redcliff first and just decided not to do it. It gets destroyed of course, but the story still continues.

[Maria Caliban]

Yes, you can beat in on your first try. Just don't go there at level 6.

[RomanLegacy]

I was only able to beat it because I had two warriors constantly using there knockdown abilities, and without a mage. The zombies couldn't do enough damage cause they were always on the floor.



The point is this level is far to ridiculously difficult if you don't have a proper party going in. Which is stupid since game conversations seem to recomend this quest first. And if you leave, the town gets attacked. This is definatly not the quest that should be done first in any case.

[JigPig]

Load an earlier save before the battle initiated, leave the area and when the guard stops you give a bull**** answer. Return and everyone will be dead except Bann Teagen, and you can go straight to the castle.

[futs22]

I beat it while I was level 6. It wasn't easy and everyone around me except the knights died. When I was overwhelmed by the monsters in front of the Chantry I just ran up the hill to the knights and they helped me out. It was kind of silly that they didn't help me seeing as that only one or two of the monsters spawn in their area. Also, Dwyn was with them. I had no choice but to lure the mob from down at the Chantry up to the windmill to get this quest done.

[Wissenschaft]

I was level, what 7? And thats from doing all the sidequest in Lothering. I did fine. Morrigan didn't learn heal until the middle of the battle though. She ran out of mana and instead of using potions I change her into a spider. That web ability is a great paralyse spell.

[Wissenschaft]

I was level, what 7? And thats from doing all the sidequest in Lothering. I did fine. Morrigan didn't learn heal until the middle of the battle though. She ran out of mana and instead of using potions I change her into a spider. That web ability is a great paralyse spell.

[Jimmyzk]

Redcliff was the first place I went in my playthough, wouldn't have been much higher lvl than you. My party was Sten, Morrigan, lelianna, it was on normal and i was a dps mage. Can't say i had anywhere near the trouble you are.



Down the bottom my tactic was to sit my ranged on the path leading up and nuke down the mobs (focus fire) that the villagers were tanking. Sten was with them but close enough to intercept any that went for my ranged. Worked quite well.

[Laceit]

What in the hell is DPS, or DPS nuker. These are f'n console terms, please elaborate. MY party AL, Sten, PC dual blade and Mory no heal or AOE.I don't want to be rude. I appreciate your input! But, I am lookig for advice to get me through my sich, not your expos. Not dissing you, but I'm looking for helpful info, not a story. Not trying to dis anyone.

[JigPig]

Laceit, if you are getting very frustrated, follow my advice if possible, though I had more trouble in the castle portion so I can't see how it will help.

[Shensi]

There's plenty of good advice here, which can come in the form of stories too, but you seem intent on continuing to sass people. The best advice so far is to forget about Redcliffe and go level up elsewhere. Another recommendation is to get Shale if you have access to him.

[Vinditater]

Just beat this fight on hard with my warrior, who is sword and board, Lileana, with bow, standing on the steps to the Chantry, Dog, and Sten. Tried it three times, found the best way to go about the bottom fight is keep as many militia men alive as possible. I simply waited for a corpse to engage a militia man, ran over, stunned the crap out of it, and moved on. If you use attack my target tactics with your party, you can grease them alot faster than if your damage was divided. Just my two cents.

[Laceit]

C'mon JPig Have spent over a Benji on this game. I'm not trying to take the easy way out. Plus, you JPig and Jiron Ghrad are the dudes on the tech thread blaming the buyers of the game for the technical issues. If I thought you were genuinely trying to help me I would say thank you. But, telling me to bail, so everyone dies, and then go back, is crap. I find you to be the/a forum Berwick. Please do not respond to any of my threads unless they are purchaser/player friendly. Good Day.

[Vinditater]

+1

[Laceit]

Vinditater wrote...

Just beat this fight on hard with my warrior, who is sword and board, Lileana, with bow, standing on the steps to the Chantry, Dog, and Sten. Tried it three times, found the best way to go about the bottom fight is keep as many militia men alive as possible. I simply waited for a corpse to engage a militia man, ran over, stunned the crap out of it, and moved on. m If you use attacky target tactics with your party, you can grease them alot faster than if your damage was divided. Just my two cents.

You can see where are party varies. But, you intrige. So you put your party on the porch of the chantry? What does this mean? " attack target tactics". I figure the next time I am able to pull the retreat to the top stratagy off, it will work. But , I think it is a chicken bleep way out. But, the party I have is not going to handle it without retreating.

[Vinditater]

So when you get down to the Chantry fight, with the militia captain Yahoo, or whatever his name was, I put my ranged on the steps there in front of the Chantry. Then I had my melee run around creaming whatever corpse was attacking militiamen. Also, the tactics Im talking about is, enemy -> target of main character -> attack. That way everyone focuses on one target at a time, instead of randomly choosing people to lash out at. I'd say stick with it. Using the retreat is cheesy, and you're a Grey Warden, you shouldn't have to =). I remember reloading the Anvil of the Void fight probably 50 times, and it felt all the better when I finally beat it. Just keep trying, let us know how it turns out.

[Laceit]

Retreat=cheesy=no friggin doubt! POW! Vinditater diggin it. Are you in the US, cause when I look at the screen name I want to laugh if there is something behind the name. For lace it reference ( JIm Rome/ Steve Elkington). Any who gotta schnoze, try it tomorrow, thanks.

[Vinditater]

Rgr, first LAN centre I went to, asked me what my profile name should be. I work at GW, so I thought of Vindicator, and went with Vinditater. Stuck with me ever since. Get you some tomorrow, let us know, Maker guide your clicky finger. =)

[soteria]

Your first mistake was leaving the default tactics in place. Your second was making personal attacks on the people in this thread.



Redcliffe was my first stop after Lothering, and I did fine at lvl 6 or 7, whatever it was... recruited the dwarf, got the smith to repair the armor, and started it up. No one up top died. All the militia at the bottom died, despite my help down there (no, I didn't run). I'm playing on hard, with Morrigan, Alistair, and Dog. Sounds like you need more cowbell.

[Nexian1998]

see my post pls



http://social.biowar...47/index/146620

[MMkain]

Grease + Inferno in the center of the campfire. Kills all the ghouls and militia men too.

[berelinde]

Madlax27 wrote...
To be honest, you did Redcliff too soon if you are level 6. I recommend ALWAYS doing the Mage Tower first. Mage Tower really pumps up the strength of your main character (Bonus Stats in the Fade) and the levels of all your characters. I believe I was around level 10 when I started Redcliff.

That's exactly the opposite of what I'd recommend. I've got a warior PC, and found Redcliffe much, much, much easier than the mage tower. Maybe it was just my game, though, because the "masses of undead" seemed to get lost so easily that they straggled in one at a time, and it was easy enough to pick them off one by one.

[steelfire_dragon]

I went and did two other areas before REdcliff myself....
came back had the elf in the inn out defending the place, and the dwarf and his workers out..... best line so far was telling the dwarf some thing on payment... yeah I was playing a female rogue...

[deadrockstar]

I did Redcliffe at lvl5, normal difficultly. Mage, Morrigan, Sten and Leliana. The top part was ridiculously easy and the bottom part was definitely much harder.



I sent Sten in to take most of the aggro, had Leliana assisting me as I picked off mobs that were hitting on the militia instead of him, and left Morrigan to her own devices. Mage plus Leliana was bringing them down in 2 or 3 seconds - Winter's Grasp plus a DD spell as Leliana took them from behind.



The hardest part was the beginning. Keep the militia alive while you get rid of the yellow mobs (3, I think?) and it is easier sailing from there.