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[Archfiend]

the ring will only tell you that if you dont die in the end

she runs off when you tell her no, but manages to get knocked up by someone. my PC didn't do it (despite the rumors) so who did? if they do a sequel i think she will be a main character, or a very strong back story character (maybe even your mother).

[Vinditater]

You could see her softer side poking through throughout the game, especially in dialogue with just yourself and her. As said in other threads, this is probably the best logical choice for a sequel. And about Flemeth, I went after her to get her true grimoire and kill her. That's about it, at least from what I remember reading and hearing. All I know was she couldn't transmit her soul into another body if Morrigan wasn't there, therefore dissipating or having to leave the mortal realm for awhile.

[JancariusSeiryujinn]

So I take it from this thread, no combination of options I could have taken at any point would have avoided her leaving.

[Marik333]

I didn't get anything about sensing her through the ring, and it makes me sad... Should I not have killed Flemeth, or sworn to chase her down (to her face)?



And guys, a lot of you are forgetting something: Archdemons cannot possess normal human beings. It possesses a Grey Warden, and they are both destroyed. It possesses a darkspawn, and it takes over. It possesses a newly forming child, and it takes over (sans Taint, Morrigan would suppose). It can only take over an empty shell, and even then only if it is Tainted. So it could not have possessed Morrigan, or even your character (without your character dying).

[Archfiend]

JancariusSeiryujinn wrote...

So I take it from this thread, no combination of options I could have taken at any point would have avoided her leaving.

no but you can get her to stay for the last battle, but she will leave when the the game ends.
she also warns you many times not to get involved with her because you both will regret it
i didnt because im dead so...

[JancariusSeiryujinn]

Wow, I have to agree with the posters. Props to Bioware for not bowing to "always happy ending" syndrome.

[Narzon]

Yeah, you can't really call her evil because whatever she needs the child for, she needs it bad. And she warns you quite a bit to not become attached. I recall a conversation where she asks you your opinion of love, calls it a weakness, and if you persist about it she tells you you'll regret it.



I'm really hoping Morrigan will be in the next sequel/DLC, and it seems the chances are high.

She is by far the most popular character in the game.

Don't get me wrong, the whole story of Dragon Age is spectacular, but her character is really what did it for me.



I'm glad to see so many people felt the same way. I almost felt like a loser, heh. I've never been this attached to any character through books, movies, or any other medium. But I'm not alone, and that once again confirms Bioware's continual genius. And here I thought Liara was the epitomy of video game romances.



Thanks for the posts

[KnightofPhoenix]

Yea, the only other game that made me slightly attafched is KOTOR. I liked Bastilla. Then I loved her when she gave me the option of being Revan again and conquering the galaxy. But that wasn't sad.



Here, bioware made me sad. Bordering depression actually, at least at first.

[Karotak]

I understand you bro... I felt exact the same...I was hoping that somehow, maybe she will be there...

I played lots of RPGs and nothing got me down like romance between mine hero and Morrigan.



Maybe she really used us to have then a baby..which will be really powerfull...and she was not evil,but accomplishing her goals...

But on the other side...when I remember those dialogues, that she was not prepared for such feelings to me and then our stuggle that I am selfish bastard that I want her...and dont want her to go away...and her face...I think that she was not playing after all.



And about the baby?She knew that I will sacrifise my life to finish the deamon...And she only save my life...



I am also from that time really sad...And I want her back..really..and I think when I saw lots of threads around forums all over the world that there has to be some ending than this.





Really through Baldurs Gate,Neverwinter Nights KOTOR, I never got to the character as now...

Also when in KOTOR 2 I finished little sad story between me and Visas Marr, it was not so deep as Morrigan...

[screwoffreg]

I am pretty sure we will see a conclusion to the Morrigan romance. Remember, in Baldurs Gate II the Viconia romance (similar to Morrigan) ended badly with her basically breaking up with you. Then the expansion came out and you can make Viconia good and she ends staying with you and having a kid (though her epilogue is still sad). My hope is Bioware comes out with a good expansion like Throne of Bhaal to this game.

[theteamfantastic]

Defo need a DLC/expansion about finding her! My child!

[challenger18]

Indeed. I want so badly for her to accept my PC in her life, but with all her secrets my gut tells me we'll be finding something very unpleasant about her reasons for wanting to raise the child away from you.

[screwoffreg]

challenger18 wrote...

Indeed. I want so badly for her to accept my PC in her life, but with all her secrets my gut tells me we'll be finding something very unpleasant about her reasons for wanting to raise the child away from you.

In a hilarious tie in Bioware will reveal Morrigan's child to be a spawn of Bhaal, the God of Murder of a far off land who then disappears...

[Garagnoir]

Well I think...



Ya'll better stop talkin bout my woman!!



She's mine damnit, mine alone!



*Wipes a tear from his eye and heads off to Tapster's for a drink.*

[Marik333]

I found it incredibly interesting when she went on about how "some things are worth saving" when asked about why she'd want to "save" the Old God.

[MrGOH]

Marik333 wrote...

I found it incredibly interesting when she went on about how "some things are worth saving" when asked about why she'd want to "save" the Old God.

Me too. Although my character wrote it off as mere rhetoric to hide her real plans.

[Marik333]

MrGOH wrote...

Marik333 wrote...

I found it incredibly interesting when she went on about how "some things are worth saving" when asked about why she'd want to "save" the Old God.

Me too. Although my character wrote it off as mere rhetoric to hide her real plans.

For my character, that sealed the deal. He loves(/d) myths and legends, and was equally enthralled by the tales of the Dalish Gods and Andraste and the Maker, and I definitely had his curiosity get the better of him(me/us).

That, and he loved Morrigan.

[KnightofPhoenix]

My character thought differently. Yes he loved Morrigan alot. But he also thought to himself that a divine child could succeed him to the throne and become King, nay Emperor! of Ferelden!!!...



Yes that's pretty much how she convinced me, despite the fact she told me that I won't see him or her again snif.

[Niveneh]

You guys talk about being down. :S



I played Amaranth. Human noble warrior, and she went out of her way to help people. She was the best person you could imagine. She truly made the world a better place wherever she went.



But in the end, she had three companions she cared for about all others - her love, Alistair, and her good friends, Liliana and Morrigan. She had trust enough in Alistair to make him king, but in return he said, it was over. They could not be together.



And the gray warden approached them and said that one of them had to die. Sadly, Amaranth knew Alistair had to live. She could not survive him just to see ferelden thrown into civil war. So her choice was made.



Then Morrigan made her offer, but while it was tempting to live - perhaps not so tempting, in some ways, even if she probably could get over Alistair - she knew Morrigan as a friend but not someone she could trust with something like an elder god. Refusing, she was abandoned by Morrigan.



The last night before battle she spent keeping the troops morale up, before going to sleep alone, with an immense sadness.



In the morning, bereft of love, bereft of friends, she bade Alistair remain with the troops, as befits a king, and went to slay the dragon, and herself. The look on her face, when she dealt the killing blow, was not one of rage, or triumph, but of despair.



Great story, as such, but painful, especially when I played that character - and really liked her - for nearly 90 hours.*sniff*

[Dragonsword18]

Narzon wrote...

I know there are probably already dozens of topics about this, but I had to voice this myself.

When I first became a gamer, I always thought the most important aspect of any game was... well.. gameplay.
I didn't feel differently until I picked up KOTOR, and then later Mass Effect. Though both have their flaws, glitches, etc., I still consider them some of my favorite games. Especially Mass Effect. That's the only game I've ever gotten 100% achievements on. Just because I love it.

I heard about Dragon Age just a week before it came out. I saw that Blood Dragon Armor, and knew that Bioware wouldn't let me down anyways, so I picked up a copy. Not an easy decision, since I'll be the only person I know who won't spend the next month or two on Modern Warfare 2, but I digress. After playing for 2 days, I was hooked. The story is amazing, and after beating it twice, I'm still astounded to the attention to detail and the real weight behind every decision.

But thought the entire story already enthralled me, the Morrigan story was the first time in my entire video game career that I actually felt.. well... sad.
I went away from finishing the game with a sense of emptiness, loneliness, betrayal. It sounds ridiculous, but I won't deny. Morrigan's story is a tragedy no matter how you look at it, and it should be that way. The hopelessness in the ending, even the best of the endings (sensing her via the ring) is so well defined. Bioware knew those of us who delved into Morrigan's character would try their hardest to get a happy ending, and they denied us.
And that just shows the genius behind the company.


I gotta know, was anyone else touched by her character as I was?
I know many others are just as fond of other characters, like Leliana and Alistair, and I'd be an idiot to deny that they are deep, well-crafted characters. But are there others who went down the Morrigan road, and felt the same depressed-enthralled emotions as I did?
Discuss, thanks.

i`m kinda feel sad too... also feel betrayed about it... i know its only game but yet feel it like in normal life-.- sux...

[KnightofPhoenix]

@ Niveneh. Well at least she is dead! My character (Arthas) has to be in constant pain and suffering thinking about his love Morrigan and his all powerful baby, despite the fact that he is the King of ferelden....when he felt Morrigan thinking about him, he nearly burst to tears, which isn't proper for a King of his stature, especially since he was on an expedition against Orzammar.
ANNND....Anora is bad in bed...
Sigh, he thought power was all that mattered to him. And now he knew he was wrong. He only wanted power to impress his love....somebody hug me, I am going to cry lol
Not but seriously, it's great to see that Bioware managed to move us emotionally in a variety of ways. Your story is awesomely tragic Niveneh!

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 11 novembre 2009 - 02:01 .

[Togashi Mitsu]

Bump

[andysdead]

i've said it before... Morrigan reminds me of one of my real-life exes. hehe. I think she's the best character in the game, honestly. Excellent voice acting, excellent script... you really develop a connection to her, and feel like she's behaving as a real woman would.

[Narzon]

I agree, it seems in this kind of situation it may actually be easiest to just refuse her offer and sacrifice yourself for Ferelden.

At least that's what I thought. But Morrigan seems generally upset if you don't go along with her, and that's enough to drive the idea away.

You're almost morally forced to accept, forced to say you'll look for her, despite the hopelessness in that respect.

[Niveneh]

Morrigan is definitely multi-faceted. It doesn't hurt that she's so expertly voiced by Claudia Black. (From Farscape).



The thing with Morrigan is the mystery. You never really know. I think she's really really bad but sometimes wish she was good. I recall the conversation where she says that she wants you to know she'll allways value your friendship, despite what may happen in the future. She knows what she'll do. You can't talk her out of it. She regrets it. But not enough to change course.



In the same way we the players know she's 'bad', but wish.. differently, unable to change it.



In contrast, Liliana is .. very very nice with a hint of bad, or at least it seemed that way on my playthrough. There was one scene, one only, where we talked and she got up and started singing, and you saw the reactions of all the companions. Big 'awwww...' moment.)