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[wikkedjoker]

After reading the 5 facts about DA2 that Game Informer posted. . . .I’m seeing A LOT of plot holes, that I have a feeling will be glanced over.  

This biggest of which, is the fact that Hawke and our Warden were in Lothering at the same time.

This bothers me for a lot of reasons;

*During the entire time I’m in Lothering holding open recruitment, I recruit, a Nun, and Sten. Granted they are both useful, but I recruited side characters when the Hero of the next game was drinking in the same bar as I was. . . . WHAT!!!

I mean I’m doing all these quest and helping all these people in Lothering and this Hawke can’t be bothered to help out. . . I mean ****, what a dick.

I mean how did this conversation go.

Gray Worden: Okay I’ve got a Nun, a Prince, a Witch, a Dog and a guy who murdered the  farmers that saved his life, simply because he couldn’t find his sword after he woke up.

Anyone else, how about you the guy in the armor with the spear, what did your application say your name was again?

Oh, yes Hawke.

Hawke: Yeah never mind about joining you, I’m just going to chill hear, and do absolutely nothing. It doesn’t really matter because I’ll be the fully voice acted Hero of the next game, you know because I‘m Ninja like that.

Yeah sure I wont fight an Arch Demon, or anything God like, but I’m sure that I’ll have some kind of epic quest, after all my story spans 10 years.  Maybe I’ll follow up on the bastard child that you and this witch will have. I know it wont mean anything with ME following up on it, after all why should I give a flying ****? But it will be closer for the player’s, I mean really they don’t need YOU for emotional closer, I mean Who would want to see the plots and plot holes resolved by the guy who started the adventure. No one wants to see that, no one want to see the journey of a character they invested so much in come full circle. I mean that would almost make since.

So you go on your quest and I’ll stay her and protect Lothering, and by protect I mean **** out and head to the Free Marshes, a place ware I’ll embark on a not so noble quest to gain power. . . .

Gray Warden. . . . . . .


I’ll give Dragon Age 2 a chance, I really hope I’m wrong about this game. In Dragon age there was a lot of plot holes and this just adds to them, but I digress.

I was hoping for closure with my Warden, a Warden that I played ALL the DLC with the expansion’s, invested A LOT of time with carving out the perfect play through to carry over to Dragon Age 2. I guess however with all the branching choices, the writing team, wrote them selves into a corner.

And there is still a bunch of time between now and the time DA2 comes out, so I’m hoping DLC or further expansions finish up the Wardens plot, and gives me a reason to care about Hawke, and his story, because the last thing I wanna do is fire up an game and get closure to my Wardens story, though the eyes of Hawke.

So until further DLC or expansions that finish out my Wardens story, and more info on DA2. . . I’ve only got one thing to say about Dragon Age 2.

In the words of The Spoony One. . .

BETRAYAL!!!!   

[DraCZeQQ]

wasnt hawke like a child when Warden was in Lothering?

[Miguelitoson]

Its too long to read

[Eternal Dust]

Isabelle Mortello wrote...

MAYBE HAWKE WAS THE LITTLE BOY WHO LOST HIS MOTHER BY THE BRIDGE!!!!

How would that work if Hawke can be female?

[JasonPogo]

Wow since they have said the game is going to span 10 years I would think Hawke was rather young at the time he was in Lothering. And why in Gods name would you think he wouold have to join up with the Warden? Why didn't the bandits all join the Warden? Why didn't that guy from the Blackstone Iregulars? Why not the crazed Chasind with the axe by the chantry?

[Phazor58]

[Miguelitoson]

Lol^^ WHy so Serious?

[JasonPogo]

Isabelle Mortello wrote...

octoberfire wrote...

Isabelle Mortello wrote...

MAYBE HAWKE WAS THE LITTLE BOY WHO LOST HIS MOTHER BY THE BRIDGE!!!!

How would that work if Hawke can be female?

Perhaps a transgender operation though.

That kid was the Hero from Fable II and got the sex change potion.

[Miguelitoson]

i think thats it ^^

[UberDuber]

Stanley woo is coming to get you!

[Phazor58]

UberDuber wrote...

Stanley woo is coming to get you!

Lol, that would suck after he wrote up this long post.

[wikkedjoker]

DraCZeQQ wrote...

wasnt hawke like a child when Warden was in Lothering?

One that’s never been said, to my knowledge, I think people just assume he’s a kid because the game takes place over the span of 10 years, because of course the hero can’t be 20 or 30 at the beginning of the game and the game take place over a decade, that would be insane. Plus the game starts up right after DAO, apparently

[DraCZeQQ]

well the game takes place in second half of the Dragon Age (no idea if age is 100 years or so?) ... the game itself will be spanned in 10 years ,,, but there was no info how many years passed between Lothering and the game itself .. it can be even another 10 years ... so lets say the Hawke was 10 when Warden came to Lothering ... he fled with his family, then 10 years passed .. Hawke is 20 he is on his best way to become hero of K. and you are stepping in his/hers shoes to fill the next 10 years ...

[SuperMedbh]

Isabelle Mortello wrote...

MAYBE HAWKE WAS THE LITTLE BOY WHO LOST HIS MOTHER BY THE BRIDGE!!!!

I'd prefer Bevin, the boy in Redcliffe who gives/loans you the Green Blade.  He got to be an adventurer in my epilogue, and talked about meeting the Warden.  So, there would be a connection, at least.

[wikkedjoker]

JasonPogo wrote...

Wow since they have said the game is going to span 10 years I would think Hawke was rather young at the time he was in Lothering. And why in Gods name would you think he wouold have to join up with the Warden? Why didn't the bandits all join the Warden? Why didn't that guy from the Blackstone Iregulars? Why not the crazed Chasind with the axe by the chantry?

One, again just because the game spans 10 years does not make the character young, in fact It would be more believable that he’s in his mid to late 20 at the time the game begins.

Also the other didn’t join because the were cowards, this is the hero of an entire game that will span over 10 years of his life, I mean you would think he wouldn’t be a coward. . . Unless the new combat they are talking about is hiding in the corner, as our party members kill everything. Than yeah I can see your point.  

[wikkedjoker]

DraCZeQQ wrote...

well the game takes place in second half of the Dragon Age (no idea if age is 100 years or so?) ... the game itself will be spanned in 10 years ,,, but there was no info how many years passed between Lothering and the game itself .. it can be even another 10 years ... so lets say the Hawke was 10 when Warden came to Lothering ... he fled with his family, then 10 years passed .. Hawke is 20 he is on his best way to become hero of K. and you are stepping in his/hers shoes to fill the next 10 years ...

Your assuming hes a kid bassed on what?

I'm assuming hes an adult because the cover art, places him in his 30 easaly.

[JasonPogo]

wikkedjoker wrote...

JasonPogo wrote...

Wow since they have said the game is going to span 10 years I would think Hawke was rather young at the time he was in Lothering. And why in Gods name would you think he wouold have to join up with the Warden? Why didn't the bandits all join the Warden? Why didn't that guy from the Blackstone Iregulars? Why not the crazed Chasind with the axe by the chantry?

One, again just because the game spans 10 years does not make the character young, in fact It would be more believable that he’s in his mid to late 20 at the time the game begins.

Also the other didn’t join because the were cowards, this is the hero of an entire game that will span over 10 years of his life, I mean you would think he wouldn’t be a coward. . . Unless the new combat they are talking about is hiding in the corner, as our party members kill everything. Than yeah I can see your point.  

So you are saying that no hero could ever be afraid and run from a fight?  Sorry to tell you but most people will only stand and fight when they are left with no toher option.  I hope Hawke will be this way.  No real true hero ever set out to be one.

[wikkedjoker]

Also, in the Five facts it hints that he was fully capable of fighting the Darkspawn, but chose to run away. Not that I blame him, if the hoard was after my ass, and the only guy/girl and there marry band or men had left I sure as hell wouldn't stay to fight. . .



"However, rather than stay and fight the darkspawn menace, Hawke flees Ferelden and heads north."

[wikkedjoker]

JasonPogo wrote...

wikkedjoker wrote...

JasonPogo wrote...

Wow since they have said the game is going to span 10 years I would think Hawke was rather young at the time he was in Lothering. And why in Gods name would you think he wouold have to join up with the Warden? Why didn't the bandits all join the Warden? Why didn't that guy from the Blackstone Iregulars? Why not the crazed Chasind with the axe by the chantry?

One, again just because the game spans 10 years does not make the character young, in fact It would be more believable that he’s in his mid to late 20 at the time the game begins.

Also the other didn’t join because the were cowards, this is the hero of an entire game that will span over 10 years of his life, I mean you would think he wouldn’t be a coward. . . Unless the new combat they are talking about is hiding in the corner, as our party members kill everything. Than yeah I can see your point.  

So you are saying that no hero could ever be afraid and run from a fight?  Sorry to tell you but most people will only stand and fight when they are left with no toher option.  I hope Hawke will be this way.  No real true hero ever set out to be one.

Eh the reluctant chosen one is sooo over done, I mean even OUR Gray Warden was the reluctant hero, forced between a rock and a hard place, and chosen by destiny to become a Gray Warden because really it was that or death.

I’m sorry I think it would be a nice change for someone to go Hey bad ****’s happening I’m going to do something about, because I have the power to, not for any other reason other than that. 

[SuperMedbh]

wikkedjoker wrote...
Eh the reluctant chosen one is sooo over done, I mean even OUR Gray Warden was the reluctant hero, forced between a rock and a hard place, and chosen by destiny to become a Gray Warden because really it was that or death.

I’m sorry I think it would be a nice change for someone to go Hey bad ****’s happening I’m going to do something about, because I have the power to, not for any other reason other than that. 

You mean like Mass Effect?

[wikkedjoker]

SuperMedbh wrote...

wikkedjoker wrote...
Eh the reluctant chosen one is sooo over done, I mean even OUR Gray Warden was the reluctant hero, forced between a rock and a hard place, and chosen by destiny to become a Gray Warden because really it was that or death.

I’m sorry I think it would be a nice change for someone to go Hey bad ****’s happening I’m going to do something about, because I have the power to, not for any other reason other than that. 

You mean like Mass Effect?

He was a little to willing, however knowing what he knew. I guess it couldnt have been helped.

[ITSSEXYTIME]

JasonPogo wrote...

Wow since they have said the game is going to span 10 years I would think Hawke was rather young at the time he was in Lothering. And why in Gods name would you think he wouold have to join up with the Warden? Why didn't the bandits all join the Warden? Why didn't that guy from the Blackstone Iregulars? Why not the crazed Chasind with the axe by the chantry?

Yes, hawke is only 8 years old when the warden passed by.  At the end of DA2 on his 18th birthday he becomes a man and his beard that he has been growing since he was a wee-lad finally matures into the epic epitome of manliness it is on the box art.


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I really don't like the idea of Hawke being in Lothering.  Lothering wasn't a big place, you'd think I might have y'know, seen him.  Or was he hiding out in one of the 3 houses in Lothering?  Maybe he was some random bar patron?  Maybe he was the Templar that greeted me at the gate! 

Now if they actually planned for this, and there was a guy there bearing an uncanny resemblance to Hawke it'd be a kind of cool easteregg, but we all know he isn't there and they're just trying to tie DA:O with DA2 to make all the other bull**** seem connected somehow.  

Modifié par ITSSEXYTIME, 10 juillet 2010 - 01:40 .