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[sydranark]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Two things suck total big hairy balls about mass Effect

1. Regardless of what character you make, this is what is considerd Shepard



He's in the movies, he's in the gameplay video's shown, he's in the trailers, he's on the box. When you are attempting to role-play as a custom character, this is in the back of your mind.

2. Regardless of what you name your char, you will always be addressed as "Shepard" with the exact same vioce across all charecters.

Limited, anoying, not very immersing.

its funny you say that, b/c i acually have an image of gary busey in the back of my mind. =/ weird

[allothernamesweretaken]

DrunkDeadman wrote...

The only real problem I have with Hawke is coming up with a male name that doesn't sound ridiculous with Hawke. Hence Fightmaster Hawke.

I like the cut of your gib.

[sydranark]

make it sound native american.. like "Leaping Hawke" or "Moe Hawke"

[Suron]

Riona45 wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

He's in the movies, he's in the gameplay video's shown, he's in the trailers, he's on the box. When you are attempting to role-play as a custom character, this is in the back of your mind.

Not for me.

2. Regardless of what you name your char, you will always be addressed as "Shepard" with the exact same vioce across all charecters.

No one ever addressed my DA character by her first (or last) name, even though I put a lot of thought into it.

the only ones I can remember was Aeducan (sp?) once or twice...and being references as the son of teryn cousland...other then those two..I don't remember any of the origins having their names said.

either way...still..all of them DID have surnames...and add all of them..to the NPC's that had surnames given to us (even if it was codex, wiki, or from novel) Hawke does NOT ****ing fit in with ANY of them...

first..last...the name is retarded.

[Rubbish Hero]

Riona45 wrote... No one ever addressed my DA character by her first (or last) name, even though I put a lot of thought into it.

That's the point.  In Dragon Age you  can choose race, appearance with-in that race, origin, as well as the
characters voice that doesn't play during convo's. The gap is filled by  the player than spoon-fed. Shepard is spoon-feeding.

You know how in System Shock 2 the player is only given audio  tapes? The player doesn't actually see what's happening, he filled in  the images with his own imagination. In Dragon Age, beyond expressions,
you fill in the rest. In Mass Effect you are  spoon fed everything, everything is set like bad CGI movie devoid of imagination. This is most likely what Dragon Age 2 will be like, everything set to stone with little input from the players own imagination. Hell, you don't even examine text now, it's RPG for dummys.

Regardless of what you name the character, or what appearence they are given, it will most probably be the exact same vioce actor addressed with the exact same name.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 10 juillet 2010 - 03:17 .

[Maverick827]

For those worried about not being able to get into the character "Hawke,"



A character is not a name. If you cannot fathom your character outside of his or her name, then your character development skills are terrible. Worrying about how "cool" a character name is leads to the self-gratifying pit hole of naming a fire mage "Blaze" or something similarly immensely stupid.

[Kimarous]

The fact about Shepard is that he's in the military. Using surnames in that context is proper etiquitte. As for Hawke, I guess they had to think up something for characters to refer to you as, no longer being an anonymous "Warden" or "Commander (of the Grey)". Well, I guess they could refer to you as "Champion", but that sounds even sillier.

[Rubbish Hero]

Maverick827 wrote...

For those worried about not being able to get into the character "Hawke,"

A character is not a name. If you cannot fathom your character outside of his or her name, then your character development skills are terrible. Worrying about how "cool" a character name is leads to the self-gratifying pit hole of naming a fire mage "Blaze" or something similarly immensely stupid.

Don't talk such rubbish. It's nothing to do with how "cool" a character name is, it's about "role playing". Blaming the player for noticing contrived linear aspects is stupid.

[Maverick827]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

For those worried about not being able to get into the character "Hawke,"

A character is not a name. If you cannot fathom your character outside of his or her name, then your character development skills are terrible. Worrying about how "cool" a character name is leads to the self-gratifying pit hole of naming a fire mage "Blaze" or something similarly immensely stupid.

Don't talk such rubbish. It's nothing to do with how "cool" a character name is, it's about "role playing". Blaming the player for noticing contrived linear aspects is stupid.

So you can role play with the current forced last name, but not with DA2's forced last name?

Nice logic.

Modifié par Maverick827, 10 juillet 2010 - 03:25 .

[Riona45]

Suron wrote...
the only ones I can remember was Aeducan (sp?) once or twice...and being references as the son of teryn cousland...other then those two..I don't remember any of the origins having their names said.

Well, DUH, that was my point!

[Rubbish Hero]

Maverick827 wrote...]So you can role play with the current forced last name, but not with DA2's forced last name?

Warden is a description, Shepard is a last name. Yes, it's fine logic. When you meet a police officer, do you call him or her by there  last name? No, you call them "Officer". If you call them "Officer Shepard" you are being specific. It's logical as logical can be.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 10 juillet 2010 - 03:32 .

[Riona45]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

You know how in System Shock 2 the player is only given audio  tapes?

No, because I never played that game. 

In Mass Effect you are  spoon fed everything, everything is set like bad CGI movie devoid of imagination. This is most likely what Dragon Age 2 will be like, everything set to stone with little input from the players own imagination. Hell, you don't even examine text now, it's RPG for dummys.

LOL!  What can I say, except that I disagree with your entire premise.

Regardless of what you name the character, or what appearence they are given, it will most probably be the exact same vioce actor addressed with the exact same name.

And that's so horrible...wait, no it isn't.

[Rubbish Hero]

Riona45 wrote... And that's so horrible...wait, no it isn't.

For those of us who do not wish to be spoon fed, yes it is.

[Dileos]

Rubbish Hero wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...]So you can role play with the current forced last name, but not with DA2's forced last name?

Warden is a description, Shepard is a last name.
Yes, it's fine
logic. When you meet a police officer, do you call him or her by there
last name? No, you call them Officer. It's logical as logical can be.

But calling him "Hawke" in casual conversation sounds like stereotypical poorly written fantasy RPG dialogue!

And stereotypical poorly written fantasy RPG sums up DA:2 very well!

[Kimarous]

So what SHOULD the NPC referral to the player character be? You aren't a Warden, so you can't be called that. If you start out as a nobody, you have nothing but your name; what else are they going to call you? Should we start out as "Stranger" until we progress up to "Champion"?

[sydranark]

Kimarous wrote...

So what SHOULD the NPC referral to the player character be? You aren't a Warden, so you can't be called that. If you start out as a nobody, you have nothing but your name; what else are they going to call you? Should we start out as "Stranger" until we progress up to "Champion"?

... no =,{

[Rubbish Hero]

Kimarous wrote...

So what SHOULD the NPC referral to the player character be? You aren't a Warden, so you can't be called that. If you start out as a nobody, you have nothing but your name; what else are they going to call you? Should we start out as "Stranger" until we progress up to "Champion"?

Well it seems the game is built like Mass Effect now, not much you can do.  We are now
controlling medieval Shepard.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 10 juillet 2010 - 03:34 .

[Kimarous]

Exactly. As such, people should stop whining and friggin' ADAPT already!

[LPPrince]

Rubbish Hero wrote...
He's in the movies, he's in the gameplay video's shown, he's in the trailers, he's on the box. When you are attempting to role-play as a custom character, this is in the back of your mind.

Speak for yourself. My Shepard is who's canon. Sheploo's just used for advertising. Nothing's in the back of my mind while playing.

[Soruve]

I am not a *giant* fan of the name Hawke, however I am quite happy that my PC will actually be referred to as SOME kind of name instead of just "hey, you" or "warden" or nothing as it were. There are worse things than Hawke, and the more I think about it the more I actually like it.

[LPPrince]

By the way, why is it wrong for everyone to refer to him as "Hawke" but it was just dandy that everyone called The Warden, "The Warden"?



The Warden had a name. Cousland, Aeducan, etc etc. They didn't use that as a title for the character, but that doesn't bother you?



And Hawke does?



Yep. Just another case of Priestly being right about people loving to hate.

[Time4Tiddy]

I do have to agree that in the context we're given, the surname Hawke doesn't make sense. Every last name in DA:O was creative and unusual, and sounded like a last name. Even the simple ones like Howe or Eamon didn't sound like animals. It's possible that Hawke is just a placeholder and they will gauge response before settling on a final name.

[Rubbish Hero]

LPPrince wrote...

By the way, why is it wrong for everyone to refer to him as "Hawke" but it was just dandy that everyone called The Warden, "The Warden"?.

Warden is a discription, Hawk is a name.

"that police officer" = Vague "Officer Boris" = Specific

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 10 juillet 2010 - 03:41 .

[Rubbish Hero]

Double post.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 10 juillet 2010 - 03:41 .