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I doubt it's a placeholder. They are probably doing voiceovers and such now, where the name Hawke will be incorporated no doubt.

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Rubbish Hero wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

By the way, why is it wrong for everyone to refer to him as "Hawke" but it was just dandy that everyone called The Warden, "The Warden"?.


Warden is a discription, Hawk is a name.

"that police officer" = Vague "Officer Boris" = Specific



Ok, but when I (as a police officer in your example) walk up to my good friend/partener/squadmate/etc, he doesn't say "What's up Officer?" he says "(Hawke!) How are you doing?" vague doesn't work when we're supposed to be party members/squadmates/etc.

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Rubbish Hero wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

By the way, why is it wrong for everyone to refer to him as "Hawke" but it was just dandy that everyone called The Warden, "The Warden"?.


Warden is a discription, Hawk is a name.

"that police officer" = Vague "Officer Boris" = Specific

No, Cousland is a name.  Aeducan is a name.  It's already present in the game.

Get over it.

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Rubbish Hero wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

By the way, why is it wrong for everyone to refer to him as "Hawke" but it was just dandy that everyone called The Warden, "The Warden"?.


Warden is a discription, Hawk is a name.

"that police officer" = Vague "Officer Boris" = Specific




Right, so I'm going to walk up to my girlfriend and say, "Hey girlfriend! Lets go to the beach."

"You know, I've been really wanting to talk to you, girlfriend."

"GIRLFRIEND! HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME!? A MIDGET!? REALLY!!!?"

"For God's sake girlfriend, get that.....that thing out of your mouth. It looks horrid."

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Maverick827 wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

By the way, why is it wrong for everyone to refer to him as "Hawke" but it was just dandy that everyone called The Warden, "The Warden"?.


Warden is a discription, Hawk is a name.

"that police officer" = Vague "Officer Boris" = Specific

No, Cousland is a name.  Aeducan is a name.  It's already present in the game.

Get over it.


Exactly. They could've scripted it so that people referred to the PC by their last name which never changed, but nope.

Yet that's fine with these haters. But Hawke isn't.

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Dunno, I think Hawke is a pretty cool name for this char--

Oh, whoops. Wrong Hawke. My bad.

Modifié par PsychoYoshi, 10 juillet 2010 - 03:53 .


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I wasn't a huge fan of the last name "Cousland", so "Hawke" sounds pretty good to me lol.

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Arius23 wrote...
Hawke is a stupid name.
I really liked Dragon Age calling the player "The Warden" because it allowed me to still believe that "I" was that character. Now, if everyone is calling my guy "Hawke", I won't feel like I am the character, but instead I am controlling someone else.
This was my main beef with Mass Effect and why I didn't have near the emotional attachment to the game and characters as I did with Dragon Age.

Anathemic wrote...
You can barely match female names with Hawke...

Dileos wrote...
"Hawke"
Generic action hero last name #239
Might as well name him Maxxx Steel or Spike McAwesome or something.

 
These for me, and more. It's a very 1980's B-movie action name that one would use if you can't think of a decent name to match the era. It's sounds too cheesy and cliched.

Modifié par Nyjahl, 10 juillet 2010 - 03:57 .


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PsychoYoshi wrote...

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Dunno, I think Hawke is a pretty cool name for this char--

Oh, whoops. Wrong Hawke. My bad.


He looks like an idiot. Atleast Dragon Effect's Hawke is like medieval Billy Mayes.

Modifié par Dileos, 10 juillet 2010 - 03:56 .


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Maverick827 wrote...No, Cousland is a name.  Aeducan is a name


How many times are these used? How many times are you specifically addressed as "Shepard"?
That's right,  practically every single conversation.


Darthnemesis2 wrote...Ok, but when I (as a police officer in your
example) walk up to my good friend/partener/squadmate/etc, he doesn't
say "What's up Officer?" he says "(Hawke!) How are you doing?" vague
doesn't work when we're supposed to be party
members/squadmates/etc.


A police officer doesn't jump 20  feet into the air to drive a blade  into a dragons head, it's suspension of disbelieve. The player  (you) fills in the gap. Warden is vague, "Shepard" is not, you are  specifically playing AS Shepard, a preconceived character with pretty  much every gap of player input filled in.. In short, it sucks balls, like you are  directing  movie scenes than actually role playing a a character. You are role playing as Uwe Boll.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 10 juillet 2010 - 03:56 .


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I think what everyone is missing is that the H is silent and they will be pronouncing it with a Free Marches accent. So it will actually sound like:



Awww-wuh-Kee. Accent on the third syllable.

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Okay, LOOK Rubbish Hero! Your character needs to be referred to as something! People will not only be able to speak to you, but about you! The Grey Warden managed this just fine by being just that: the Grey Warden. DA2's hero doesn't have that advantage; Hawke (or whatever you wished your PC was called) is NOT a Grey Warden and thus cannot be referred to as "Warden". The only known title Hawke has been referred to thus far is "Champion of Kirkwall" and even that isn't known to be a pre-game status. Assuming he cannot simply go by "Champion" on account of being a nobody, what WILL you be called as? Oh, that's right; the one thing that remains is a NAME!

DEAL WITH IT!!!

Modifié par Kimarous, 10 juillet 2010 - 04:03 .


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Rubbish Hero wrote...


Darthnemesis2 wrote...

Ok, but when I (as a police officer in your
example) walk up to my good friend/partener/squadmate/etc, he doesn't
say "What's up Officer?" he says "(Hawke!) How are you doing?" vague
doesn't work when we're supposed to be party
members/squadmates/etc.


A police officer doesn't jump 20  feet into the air to drive a blade  into a dragons head, it's suspension of disbelieve. The player  (you) fills in the gap. Warden is vague, "Shepard" is not, you are  specifically playing AS Shepard, a preconceived character with pretty  much every gap of player input filled in.. In short, it sucks balls, like you are  directing  movie scenes than actually role playing a a character. You are role playing as Uwe Boll.


I'm going to address the bolded section first, because I feel this is important. A police officer risks his life every day to keep ungrateful motherf***ers like you safe. What they do is more important than any videogame character period, because out there (ya know, in the real world) you don't have a respawn/load last save/checkpoint button. 

As for the rest of your post, just because my character's name is "Shepard" or "Hawke" or "Princess stabbity" doesn't take away from the fact that I still decide what kind of a person s/he is, what motivates him/her, how s/he'll react to a certain situation. A rose by any other name still smells just a sweet.

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Rubbish Hero wrote...


A police officer doesn't jump 20  feet into the air to drive a blade  into a dragons head


No a police officer does things that can...you know actually kill you.

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Darthnemesis2 wrote...


I'm going to address the bolded section first, because I feel this is important. A police officer risks his life every day to keep ungrateful motherf***ers like you safe.


How exactly am I ungrateful?  Police officers can jump 20 feet into the air and sink a blade into a
Dragons head? That not suspension of disbelieve but actually reality?  I'm failing to see exactly how this point being made makes me in anyway  insulting to police officers or why you should feel enititled to take offense. In short, this reply is nonsense and I am correct. Let's move on.


Also, please don't call other users the F word, it's very rude. Especially when I have shown such great respect.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 10 juillet 2010 - 04:09 .


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Rubbish Hero wrote...

Darthnemesis2 wrote...


I'm going to address the bolded section first, because I feel this is important. A police officer risks his life every day to keep ungrateful motherf***ers like you safe.


How exactly am I ungrateful?  Police officers can jump 20 feet into the air and sink a blade into a
Dragons head? That not suspension of disbelieve but actually reality?
I'm failing to see exactly how this point being made makes me in anyway
insulting to police officers or why you should feel enititled to take offense. In short, this reply is nonsense and I am correct. Let's move on.


Comparing law enforcement officers to fictional heroes is about as bad as comparing the S.A.S to the Marines in Halo.

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Rubbish Hero wrote...

Darthnemesis2 wrote...


I'm going to address the bolded section first, because I feel this is important. A police officer risks his life every day to keep ungrateful motherf***ers like you safe.


How exactly am I ungrateful?  Police officers can jump 20 feet into the air and sink a blade into a
Dragons head? That not suspension of disbelieve but actually reality?
I'm failing to see exactly how this point being made makes me in anyway
insulting to police officers or why you should feel enititled to take offense. In short, this reply is nonsense and I am correct. Let's move on.


You lost all credibility when you assumed everyone disagreeing with you is wrong and you are correct.

Modifié par LPPrince, 10 juillet 2010 - 04:09 .


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Dileos wrote...

He looks like an idiot. Atleast Dragon Effect's Hawke is like medieval Billy Mayes.


Another possible ending--Hawke becomes chief pitchman for the Grey Wardens.

I'M HAWKE, AND I'M HERE TO DEMONSTRATE THE POWER OF THE GREY WARDENS' NEW PRODUCT: SPAWN-B-GONE!

THIS AMAZING NEW POTION WILL ALLOW YOU TO DRINK ALL OF YOUR PROBLEMS AWAY! JUST ONE BOTTLE IS ENOUGH TO REPEL ALL KINDS OF DARKSPAWN FOR UP TO EIGHT LONG HOURS, FROM GENLOCKS TO ARCHDEMONS!

WHAT'S THE SECRET, YOU MIGHT ASK? ENCHANTMENT!

ORDINARILY, THIS SUPER PRODUCT WOULD COST YOU 19 SOVEREIGNS AND 99 SILVERS! HOWEVER, ORDER NOW AND GET TWO BOTTLES FOR THE PRICE OF ONE! YES! TWO!

THIS IS A LIMITED-TIME OFFER, SO CALL NOW! HERE'S HOW TO ORDER...

A sign is held up advertising Bodahn Feddic's retail chain, which has since expanded aggressively throughout Thedas and is now driving other stores out of business, like a fantasy equivalent of a big-box retailer.

Modifié par PsychoYoshi, 10 juillet 2010 - 04:13 .


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Gee, Rubish Hero, I guess you must hate being referred to by your name all the time. I suppose you like your workmates to refer to you as "employee" or have the people here call you "poster". People have names, which will be used accordingly! Read what we are telling you!

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I rather like the name "Percy Finklebottom" myself. It sounds more badass than Hawke.... :D

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Dileos wrote...

Rubbish Hero wrote...


A police officer doesn't jump 20  feet into the air to drive a blade  into a dragons head


No a police officer does things that can...you know actually kill you.


sometimes without provocation. stupid popo

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PsychoYoshi wrote...

Dileos wrote...

He looks like an idiot. Atleast Dragon Effect's Hawke is like medieval Billy Mayes.


Another possible ending--Hawke becomes chief pitchman for the Grey Wardens.

I'M HAWKE, AND I'M HERE TO DEMONSTRATE THE POWER OF THE GREY WARDENS' NEW PRODUCT: SPAWN-B-GONE!

THIS AMAZING NEW POTION WILL ALLOW YOU TO DRINK ALL OF YOUR PROBLEMS AWAY! JUST ONE BOTTLE IS ENOUGH TO REPEL ALL KINDS OF DARKSPAWN FOR UP TO EIGHT LONG HOURS, FROM GENLOCKS TO ARCHDEMONS!

WHAT'S THE SECRET, YOU MIGHT ASK? ENCHANTMENT!

ORDINARILY, THIS SUPER PRODUCT WOULD COST YOUR 19 SOVEREIGNS AND 99 SILVERS! HOWEVER, ORDER NOW AND GET TWO BOTTLES FOR THE PRICE OF ONE! YES! TWO!

THIS IS A LIMITED-TIME OFFER, SO CALL NOW! HERE'S HOW TO ORDER...

A sign is held up advertising Bodahn Feddic's retail chain, which has since expanded aggressively throughout Thedas and is now driving other stores out of business, like a fantasy equivalent of a box-box retailer.


You suddenly made this game suck less.


I believe I am gay for you. <3<3<3

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Sabariel wrote...

I rather like the name "Percy Finklebottom" myself. It sounds more badass than Hawke.... :D


just b/c of this, i'm naming mine finklebottom hawke

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His name should have been Sheep Herder.

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Dileos wrote...Comparing law enforcement officers to fictional heroes is about as bad as comparing the S.A.S to the Marines in Halo.


I compared description to specifics as well as taking into account the medium when qeastioned about it.  This isn't disrespectful nor a direct reality to reality comparison.  If police officers not jumping 20 feet into the air to kill dragons is  offensive, by all means, please take it up with your local council.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 10 juillet 2010 - 04:17 .