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"Hawke" is a thoroughly stupid name, but....


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toncampos

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I've used the name before with my character. I just deleted the file before I signed up to this site.

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sydranark wrote...

Sabariel wrote...

I rather like the name "Percy Finklebottom" myself. It sounds more badass than Hawke.... :D


just b/c of this, i'm naming mine finklebottom hawke


Awesome ^_^

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I think you've got good points on both sides. AFGNCAAPs allow the play to insert themselves into the role or craft their own character, but it can get hard to sympathize or realize a character that's amorphous. Whatever the case, this is what they decided to do. Some will like it, some won't, but this is the way it is. I guess they prefer the Mass Effect model, or at least want to try it out here.

No matter which one they do, I'll buy it.

Modifié par DaringMoosejaw, 10 juillet 2010 - 04:17 .


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Rubbish Hero wrote...

Dileos wrote...Comparing law enforcement officers to fictional heroes is about as bad as comparing the S.A.S to the Marines in Halo.

I compared description to specifics as well as taking into account the medium when qeastioned about it.  This isn't disrespectful nor a direct reality comparison.  If police officers not jumping 20 feet into the air to kill dragons is
offensive, by all means, please take it up with your local council.

Then why on earth did you bring it up then? The original post was simply about title etiquitte and you go off spouting nonsense about how cops can't slay dragons or whatever.

Y'know, I just love how you avoid every single point that we tell you about the subject...

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Rubbish Hero wrote...

Darthnemesis2 wrote...


I'm going to address the bolded section first, because I feel this is important. A police officer risks his life every day to keep ungrateful motherf***ers like you safe.


How exactly am I ungrateful?  Police officers can jump 20 feet into the air and sink a blade into a
Dragons head? That not suspension of disbelieve but actually reality?  I'm failing to see exactly how this point being made makes me in anyway  insulting to police officers or why you should feel enititled to take offense. In short, this reply is nonsense and I am correct. Let's move on.


Also, please don't call other users the F word, it's very rude. Especially when I have shown such great respect.


You know what, maybe it was a bit harsh... but I don't care. You are the one making up rediculus scenarios to try to prove a point, and then throwing  said scenarios to the ground when someone responds with a counter-example. Face it, last names were given in DA and it didn't effect the RP experience at all. The only difference was, Bioware decided to have all your 'friends' refer to you as"Warden" as if you weren't even there, or call you that to your face when you have a perfectly good name they could use. A name does not make or break a character, it is merely a (very small) part.

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Ha I found the perfect name for him, Storm Hawke.
Someone answer is this a male or female name because Storm Hawke just sounds good on both.

Modifié par Slstoev, 10 juillet 2010 - 04:17 .


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Kimarous wrote...Then why on earth did you bring it up then?


It was already explained, a simple comparison between vague and  specific, replace "police officer" with other titles if you wish.  When  the fellow asked about specifics, it was simply explained a suspension of disbelieve is requires for the player to fill in the gap them self, it's a video game, player input is something the player can do over and  above movies. Mass Effect has less of this because ti basically is, movie directing. The input is already there requiring less from the player.

Do you understand? Good, I am correct, we are moving on, for real this time.
Moving on in 3.... 2... 1....

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 10 juillet 2010 - 04:25 .


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Darthnemesis2 wrote... You know what, maybe it was a bit harsh...


You called me a" f**ker" and  implied and I was somehow ungrateful to the police force.
It was, maybe, just abit.

Darthnemesis2 wrote... but I don't care


Aw, well, that's too bad. :(

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 10 juillet 2010 - 04:29 .


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People who insist they are correct get no respect from me. Add that to how you keep arguing over something that cannot be done any other way BECAUSE of a lack of means to be "vague" and you clearly live up to your name of "Rubbish". Good day; I'm done arguing with a broken record.

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Its funny how she thinks that she's actually...doing something here..

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Kimarous wrote... People who insist they are correct get no respect from me.


Who are you?

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Rubbish Hero wrote...

Kimarous wrote... People who insist they are correct get no respect from me.

Who are you?

Someone who knows he can be flawed and incorrect, unlike you.

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Kimarous wrote...

People who insist they are correct get no respect from me. Add that to how you keep arguing over something that cannot be done any other way BECAUSE of a lack of means to be "vague" and you clearly live up to your name of "Rubbish". Good day; I'm done arguing with a broken record.


Dileos wrote...

Its funny how she thinks that she's actually...doing something here..


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We have our winners

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I've used the name in one of my characters before.

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Mungolian_ wrote...

That's, like, just your opinion, man.

I like the name.


A dwarf peed on my rug, man.

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Sumna wrote...

Mungolian_ wrote...

That's, like, just your opinion, man.

I like the name.


A dwarf peed on my rug, man.


Best posts ever.

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If there aren't any spells to allow the PC to grow wings and flutter about picking up darkspawn like rats I'll be very let down.




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toncampos wrote...

I've used the name in one of my characters before.


Yeah, but its too cliche' and requires no thought to develop. I mean look at the other cool names they have in Origins: Aeducan, Mahariel, Howe (actually would perfer that over Hawke), and Cousland (not my favorite, but still sounds better than Hawke) just to name a few. I'm not going to be whining over the character's name, but I just can't see why they went with such a generic action hero name...

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Farnsworth.

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Mike Hawke hahahahahaha!!! ... sorry.

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Arius23 wrote..

I really liked Dragon Age calling the player "The Warden" because it allowed me to still believe that "I" was that character. Now, if everyone is calling my guy "Hawke", I won't feel like I am the character, but instead I am controlling someone else..


Unless your create a character that doesn't want to be a Grey Warden. Duncan can conscript you into the Warden's against your will, and when the order is exterminated, you can agree to save Ferelden from the Blight without marrying yourself to the Warden order. The fact that they constantly called you a Warden drove me half-insane, and made me want to scream: "NO! Cousland. I am a Cousland. I'm going to gut Arl Howe, take back Highever, and force the Landsmeet to declare me King for saving Ferelden." Sadly you're prevented from forcing the Landsmeet to declare you King of Ferelden (but somehow commoner Anora who isn't out saving the country from the Blight is A-OK) but you're never allowed to tell people to shove it for daring to call you a Warden.

If everyone was calling me "Hawke," I'd go, "huh, they're calling me by my last name; weird"; which is totally different than "they're forcing me into a character that has to care about being a Warden".

Which is why I hate the anti-VO rage. DA forced you into fixed characters just as hard.

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While I am not enthused with the main character being named, Hawke.

I am prepared to wait and see, if there is a story reason why the main character has the name Hawke.

Modifié par Lindum , 11 juillet 2010 - 06:15 .


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What would count as a story reason? Would his/her parents having the last name "Hawke" be good enough for you?

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distinguetraces wrote...

I'm smiling to see yet another suggestion that there's a Seiken Densetsu 3 fan somewhere on the development team.


lol ur avatar made me laugh :o
Anyway the Hawke name is pretty good in my opinion.

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First of all, Howe and Hawke can both be dated back to the same time period and area.



So anyone saying, Howe fits and Hawke doesn't really needs to brush up on their history.



Hawke-



This ancient and distinguished surname is of Anglo-Saxon origin, and may belong to any of three distinct surname categories. Firstly, Hawke may derive from the Olde English pre 7th Century male given "H(e)afoc", Hawk, originally a byname denoting a fierce, rapacious person, or one with a large hooked nose. "Hauok" (without surname) was recorded in the 1066 Winton Book of Hampshire, and an Osbertus filius (son of) Hauoc was noted in the 1115 Old English Byname Register of Oxfordshire. The second possibility is that Hawke is a metonymic occupational name for someone who bred and trained hawks, from the Middle English "hau(l)k, haueke" (Olde English "heafoc"). Hawking was a major medieval sport, and the provision and training of hawks for a feudal lord was a not uncommon obligation in lieu of rent. One Robert Hauk was recorded in the 1269 Assize Rolls of Northumberland, and in 1379, an Adam Hawke appears in the Poll Tax Returns of Yorkshire. Finally, Hawke may be a topographical name from residence by a nook or crag, from the Middle English "halke" (Olde English "halh"), angle, corner, recess, as in William del Halk (Suffolk, 1188). Edward Hawke (1705 - 1781) became admiral of the fleet in 1768 following a distinguished naval career, and was created Baron Hawke of Great Britain in 1776. The Hawke Coat of Arms is a silver shield with a chevron erminois between three purple pilgrims' staves. The first recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Ralph Hauoc, which was dated 1130, in the "Pipe Rolls of London", during the reign of King Henry 1, known as "The Lion of Justice", 1100 - 1135. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.



Howe-



Recorded in many forms including How, Howe, Hoe, Hoo, the rare diminutives Howan, Howen and Howin, the patronymics Howes, Howson, Howison, and others, this is a surname of Olde English pre 7th century origins. It is either locational from places such as Howe in Norfolk and West Yorkshire, or topographical for a person who lived by a man-made mound or burial barrow. Both derive from the word "hoh" or possibly the Scandanavian Viking "haugr." In some cases the surname may derive from the French personal name Hue, introduced to the British Isles by the Norman French after the Conquest of England in 1066. The surname is 12th century, (see below), making it one of the earliest on record. Other examples of recordings from surviving rolls and charters include Marjorie de Howes in the Curia Regis Rolls of 1167 for Leicestershire, and Robert atte Hou in the Place Names of Yorkshire in 1333. Amongst the early church recordings are Helen Howe who married William Powncett at St. Leonard Eastcheap, in the city of London on January 16th 1550, whilst on December 1st 1771 Mary Howen, a widow, married William Smith a widower, in Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire. The first recorded spelling of the family name is probably that of William de Ho. This was dated 1121 in the Danel Law Feudal Documents, for the county of Essex, during the reign of King Stephen of England, 1100 - 1135. Surnames became necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was sometimes known as the Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original spelling.