Concerning Morrigan's child
#1
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:12
There's not going to be an expansion, or DLC based around it, and it's not going to play a major part in DA2.
#2
Guest_randumb vanguard_*
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:14
Guest_randumb vanguard_*
Not for me it isn'tallothernamesweretaken wrote...
It seems a lot of you are unaware that it's completely possible not to sleep with Morrigan.
There's not going to be an expansion, or DLC based around it, and it's not going to play a major part in DA2.
#3
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:14
What makes you come to these conclusions?
#4
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:15
Just sayin'
#5
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:17
andar91 wrote...
You should watch you spoilers.
What makes you come to these conclusions?
You can sleep with Morrigan many times at different occassions, and he doesn't really say anything about when or how, so I wouldn't say it's a spoiler.
#6
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:17
I'm sorry, but this means nothing coming from you.allothernamesweretaken wrote...
It seems a lot of you are unaware that it's completely possible not to sleep with Morrigan.
There's not going to be an expansion, or DLC based around it, and it's not going to play a major part in DA2.
#7
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:18
#8
Guest_distinguetraces_*
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:20
Guest_distinguetraces_*
Ignoring god-baby altogether in future games would show, it seems to me, an unsteadiness of purpose and lack of clear through-line that would make the infamous dissing of Liara seem minor.
Modifié par distinguetraces, 10 juillet 2010 - 02:22 .
#9
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:21
I mean seriously, the creation of an Old God? That just gets swept under the table? It would be pretty easy to make a DLC for it; anyone who didn't chose to do her ritual could simply not include it in their game.
#10
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:21
andar91 wrote...
You should watch you spoilers.
What makes you come to these conclusions?
In my game, when I declined Morrigan, she just ragequit the party. She left. She didn't go off and sleep with anyone else, she just left, and wandered the land.
If Morrigan's child is part of the game, it's not going to be a major player. It'll be a sidequest at most. Maybe a big one, but a sidequest nontheless.
There's tons of other massive differences in the story. Anyone who was thinking the Warden would be a major player in DA2, or Alistair or a dozen other people and places are fooling themselves. Our choices from DA will more likely than not have an impact on 2, but there's a lot of characters and places in the game that are likely no longer existant for a ton of people.
#11
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:22
allothernamesweretaken wrote...
It seems a lot of you are unaware that it's completely possible not to sleep with Morrigan.
There's not going to be an expansion, or DLC based around it, and it's not going to play a major part in DA2.
Maybe they can make DLC for the 2 or 3 of you that didn't sleep with Morrigan then.
And for all we know, it can be a major role in DA2. Perhaps if you didn't sleep with her, the child is somebody else's.
Modifié par Atranox, 10 juillet 2010 - 02:23 .
#12
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:26
LOL, ditto. It wasn't until my 4th playthrough that I could bring myself to try a different LI. She's just too awesome.randumb vanguard wrote...
Not for me it isn'tallothernamesweretaken wrote...
It seems a lot of you are unaware that it's completely possible not to sleep with Morrigan.
There's not going to be an expansion, or DLC based around it, and it's not going to play a major part in DA2.
Anyway, they are perfectly capable of hand-waving it. If your US Warden can be alive and kicking in Awakening, then why can't Morrigan be pregnant? They could say she went and knocked boots with Riordan or something after you so rudely turned her down. Or just say she got pregnant by someone else along the way and Something Happened™ when the Archdemon died and for some reason it worked anyway. There's an infinite number of ways it could be made to work. Or, again, they could just do it without giving an explanation. Maybe those who didn't knock her up could consider it an "alternate universe" thing like Darkspawn Chronicles. I honestly don't care HOW they go about it so long as they DO go about it.
#13
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:31
Atranox wrote...
And for all we know, it can be a major role in DA2. Perhaps if you didn't sleep with her, the child is somebody else's.
Yeah, there's many ways you could work in a "Morrigan's child" into a sequel without having to canonize any certain choices.
Considering how easy it is to get Witch Gone Wild...
#14
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:31
SirOccam wrote...
LOL, ditto. It wasn't until my 4th playthrough that I could bring myself to try a different LI. She's just too awesome.randumb vanguard wrote...
Not for me it isn'tallothernamesweretaken wrote...
It seems a lot of you are unaware that it's completely possible not to sleep with Morrigan.
There's not going to be an expansion, or DLC based around it, and it's not going to play a major part in DA2.
Anyway, they are perfectly capable of hand-waving it. If your US Warden can be alive and kicking in Awakening, then why can't Morrigan be pregnant? They could say she went and knocked boots with Riordan or something after you so rudely turned her down. Or just say she got pregnant by someone else along the way and Something Happened™ when the Archdemon died and for some reason it worked anyway. There's an infinite number of ways it could be made to work. Or, again, they could just do it without giving an explanation. Maybe those who didn't knock her up could consider it an "alternate universe" thing like Darkspawn Chronicles. I honestly don't care HOW they go about it so long as they DO go about it.
Handwave a major plot point and decision?
Oh, yeah, great.
#15
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:34
allothernamesweretaken wrote...
SirOccam wrote...
LOL, ditto. It wasn't until my 4th playthrough that I could bring myself to try a different LI. She's just too awesome.randumb vanguard wrote...
Not for me it isn'tallothernamesweretaken wrote...
It seems a lot of you are unaware that it's completely possible not to sleep with Morrigan.
There's not going to be an expansion, or DLC based around it, and it's not going to play a major part in DA2.
Anyway, they are perfectly capable of hand-waving it. If your US Warden can be alive and kicking in Awakening, then why can't Morrigan be pregnant? They could say she went and knocked boots with Riordan or something after you so rudely turned her down. Or just say she got pregnant by someone else along the way and Something Happened™ when the Archdemon died and for some reason it worked anyway. There's an infinite number of ways it could be made to work. Or, again, they could just do it without giving an explanation. Maybe those who didn't knock her up could consider it an "alternate universe" thing like Darkspawn Chronicles. I honestly don't care HOW they go about it so long as they DO go about it.
Handwave a major plot point and decision?
Oh, yeah, great.
'Twas already done with Awakening, dear.
#16
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:36
#17
Guest_distinguetraces_*
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:39
Guest_distinguetraces_*
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
allothernamesweretaken wrote...
Handwave a major plot point and decision?
Oh, yeah, great.
'Twas already done with Awakening, dear.
It's not really the same thing. In Awakening thay had plainly impossible alternatives to reconcile, and they just chose to ignore the inconsistencies.
Having Morrigan turn up pregnant by a Warden (whether turned down by PC or not) doesn't necessarily contradict any version of the PC's story. She's a resourceful girl, and the Fereldan nights are long.
#18
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:41
It's a major plot point no doubt.
#19
Guest_randumb vanguard_*
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:43
Guest_randumb vanguard_*
#20
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 03:40
distinguetraces wrote...
Kaiser Shepard wrote...
allothernamesweretaken wrote...
Handwave a major plot point and decision?
Oh, yeah, great.
'Twas already done with Awakening, dear.
It's not really the same thing. In Awakening thay had plainly impossible alternatives to reconcile, and they just chose to ignore the inconsistencies.
Having Morrigan turn up pregnant by a Warden (whether turned down by PC or not) doesn't necessarily contradict any version of the PC's story. She's a resourceful girl, and the Fereldan nights are long.
Ignore, retcon... poh-tay-to, poh-tah-to.
Considering Awakening's plot had nothing to do with neither Morrigan nor the God Child, it shouldn't have been impossible at that point to implement the alternatives. When you choose to ignore the plot choices in that way, it implies to me that the ignored choices have been retconned. The images of the "Dragon Lady" we've seen so far also seem to suggest that the Dark Ritual is indeed canon, and that this lady is the result of it.
I fully understand the potential of Morrigan God Child story, but they shouldn't have given us a choice if they were gonna decide for us later on.
And Morrigan may be resourceful, but she doesn't simply come across another Archdemon or Old God.
#21
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 03:41
#22
Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 03:52
DJmacpher wrote...
What about this?
http://docs.google.c...mgn&interval=30
They make some good points.
Like I said, Dragon Lady = Morrigan's God Child
Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 10 juillet 2010 - 03:52 .





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