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Lucy Glitter

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 I again bet ten bucks on it being Flemeth. :bandit:

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 I again bet ten bucks on it being Flemeth. :bandit:


If it is, she's certainly more attractive now.

How messed up would it be if Flemeth took over Morrigan's child?

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 I again bet ten bucks on it being Flemeth. :bandit:


I'll raise you to $20 bucks its Flemeth :ph34r:

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Hawke's story doesn't pick up 10 years later, it simply spans 10 years within the game. We still don't know how long after DAO this is all occuring.

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ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...
Hawks story picks up 10 years later putting him about 20 years of age,


What news story said the game takes place ten years later? Link please.
The only mention of 10 years I've seen so far is the time the game will span over its own course of events.

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 I again bet ten bucks on it being Flemeth. :bandit:

I bet ten bucks its not her body but morrigans/with baby inside body.

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Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 I again bet ten bucks on it being Flemeth. :bandit:


I will not be taking that bet thank you. I like having ten bucks.

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ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

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 Some one said they thought the game started when the warden in DA:O gets to Lothering (cause thats around when it's destroyed).
I think it starts several years after that. I mean look at this guy

I don't think he'd just run away, unless he was a kid when it happened. 



Hawk could be the boy you told to go to the chantry, after his mother was killed, the quest you get from the chantry board to retrieve her locket.


I told the kid to beat lol


LOL, to bad for you! Posted Image

Who says that kid can't be Hawk, who can be a girl.  I don't think that kid at the bridge had time to grow ****** yet. 

From reading offical release notes from news announced today.  Hawk was in Lothering when our Grey Warden passed by.  He fled Lothering before it got sacked.  Hawks story picks up 10 years later putting him about 20 years of age, so it had to be a kid in Lothering, question is which one? Not the little elf girl with her family.

Only other people going North when Wardens are in Lothering had to do with those dudes during the chasind thing at the chantry, and part of the merchant/sister fight.  Alot of kids in the refugee area.   

there were quite a few kids in the refugee area outside lothering gates.Maybe one of them.

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what if she's flemeth :D
that'd be fun.

edit: stating the already stated my observation skills take another broad step forward!

Modifié par ahnnajade, 10 juillet 2010 - 05:40 .


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Just wanted to point out the flaw in assuming Morrigan could still have conceived the god-child in Orlais. Recall: it takes an Archdemon's death for the child to absorb the soul of an Old God. So unless Morrigan teams up with the Architect and finds another Old God, looks like BioWare may just canonize the Dark Ritual. Perhaps if you refused her she snuck over to Riordan's room and performed the ritual anyway. It is a dark fantasy setting, and she is a witch, it's totally conceivable that she'd force herself on a man for the god-child.

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Jimmy Fury wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...
Hawks story picks up 10 years later putting him about 20 years of age,


What news story said the game takes place ten years later? Link please.
The only mention of 10 years I've seen so far is the time the game will span over its own course of events.


Try the DA2 official page for starters.

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ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...
Hawks story picks up 10 years later putting him about 20 years of age,


What news story said the game takes place ten years later? Link please.
The only mention of 10 years I've seen so far is the time the game will span over its own course of events.


Try the DA2 official page for starters.


The game SPANS 10 years, but it doesn't take place 10 years later.

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Altima Darkspells wrote...

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Might I offer an alternative theory?

The woman is clearly a magic user. If you look at male!Hawke, you'll notice in his non-sword arm, he has something of a claw. This woman also has a claw.

Couldn't it be possible that she is simply female!Hawke?

Aw, who am I kidding, BioWare will do the same thing it always does. Iconic!Hawke will be male, we'll never even see mention that Hawke can be either gender, and half the game base will be surprised that you can, indeed, choose Hawke to be female.



I am loving that theory sooooooo much, but I think the resemblance to the Dragon in the GI cover kinda makes it unlikely. Also, it's already be said multiple times that Hawke can be either male or female. 


Perhaps it's a mirror image of Hawke--you can be a valiant savior destroying darkspawn, or you can join the Blight yourself and bring destruction?

And yes, I know that BioWare has said Hawke can be male or female, but Iconic!Hawke--the Hawke they will use for commercials, previews, gameplay demos, in short, everything will be your standard ruggedly good looking male, like, say, Shepard.  Or even the Warden from DAO, at least in the commercials.  Go on--scower ME1/2's trailers, movies, and so on, see if you can find mention of femShepard.  You can't.

Beginning to think that BioWare's sexist with DAO, what with them hinting that the most badass female character in the game should end up knocked up.



It was also said that Hawke ends up with the title of Hero of Kirkland, or something like that. Meaning he/she's a hero there. So the mirror image thing is also rather unlikely. 
As for the advertising of the rugged male lead used in the ads it's only because most of the market for videogames is male. The female/male who wants to play fem is the minority and thus if they focus on that, it would bring much less sales to them. The only games that ad with fem badasses are ones who have some female who's half naked and those only do so amazingly with the male audience because of the epic perv-ness.

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Span means to extend does it not?

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Maybe I have a little too much faith in humanity, but I really doubt that men would think EWWW I'M NOT PLAYING THAT if Hawke was marketed as an armored, badass, blood-spattered woman. Of course she'd still be attractive, but you know, not half naked. Everyone keeps talking generally about what men want, what men like to play as. Personally, I know a lot of men who play as female characters whenever there's an opportunity... I don't know any that are strictly opposed to it, or who would not buy a game because of it.



I mean really, doesn't anyone here feel like they wouldn't buy a game that was marketed as such?

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Altima Darkspells wrote...

The woman is clearly a magic user. If you look at male!Hawke, you'll notice in his non-sword arm, he has something of a claw. This woman also has a claw.

Couldn't it be possible that she is simply female!Hawke?


I'm not sure, but I think it was stated somewhere that she is not the female version of Hawke. I mean, why would her identity be a mystery, if that were the case?

Perhaps it's a mirror image of Hawke--you can be a valiant savior destroying darkspawn, or you can join the Blight yourself and bring destruction?


I like this idea, if I am understanding you correctly. Sort of like a rival, a foil to your main character. A doppelganger of the opposite sex (so if you play a female Hawke, the mysterious person is a man with a claw instead). That could be interesting.

Beginning to think that BioWare's sexist with DAO, what with them hinting that the most badass female character in the game should end up knocked up.


Huh? Where did they hint at that, about who?

Modifié par filaminstrel, 10 juillet 2010 - 05:57 .


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ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

Span means to extend does it not?


Span means that the game itself is 10 years worth of time. That's all it means, it doesn't speak at all to when the game starts in relation to Origins.

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ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

Span means to extend does it not?


Not in this sense. It means "length of time".

So its not taking place 10 years LATER, but rather its going to take 10 years to FINISH.

In game, of course. Rofl.

Compare it to Assassin's Creed 2-

The game follows a span of a few decades, but the game takes place a few hundred years after the first.

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Ummm... I refute the second part of this person's assertions. That dragon in the background does not look like an archdemon. Judging by the artistic lighting, it doesn't look like the dragon is aligned with the darkspawn (which are typically black and red not silver and white).

Modifié par RunCDFirst, 10 juillet 2010 - 05:54 .


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mosaiclobster wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

Span means to extend does it not?


Span means that the game itself is 10 years worth of time. That's all it means, it doesn't speak at all to when the game starts in relation to Origins.


Seems pretty clear to me that they tell you Hawk started out in Lothering, then the story jumps 10 years into his future.  I can't say it anymore clear than this.

On the mystery girl, it could be the female hawk, or it's Flemeth, that is who my money is on.

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LPPrince wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 I again bet ten bucks on it being Flemeth. :bandit:


If it is, she's certainly more attractive now.

How messed up would it be if Flemeth took over Morrigan's child?


The Old God who's soul goes into the child is the Old God of Beauty.

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Urthemiel

Modifié par Felfenix, 10 juillet 2010 - 05:58 .


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Well clearly you're reading something no one else is. The GAME takes up 10 years of time. He or She flees from Lothering to the Free Marshes, at some point. There is no reason to think that the game spanning 10 years has anything to do with when that 10 years actually begins. But at this point I can't say it any clearer either.

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Sabariel wrote...

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Everyone assumes that it's her child.

Sorry, but it can't be her child.

Some players never concieved a child with Morrigan using the ritual.

Bioware wouldn't make it her child with complete disreguard to player's decisions, unless somewhere soon after the battle Morrigan somehow found a dragon and decided to screw it senseless, or was just "given a baby" to her by one of the old gods in the fade.


Even if your Warden tells Morrigan to eff off she shows up in Orlais. There's plenty of Wardens there for her to fornicate with.


i didn't accept her offer and she was still pregnant.

so either they will say that she is pregnant from when you romanced her, or she banged alistair.

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ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

mosaiclobster wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

Span means to extend does it not?


Span means that the game itself is 10 years worth of time. That's all it means, it doesn't speak at all to when the game starts in relation to Origins.


Seems pretty clear to me that they tell you Hawk started out in Lothering, then the story jumps 10 years into his future.  I can't say it anymore clear than this.

On the mystery girl, it could be the female hawk, or it's Flemeth, that is who my money is on.


Yeah, they say he was born in Lothering.  Then they say the game is about the Hero of Kirkwall (which is not Lothering), who is clearly an adult, and that the game spans ten years.  That is to say that the game covers 10 years of in-game-time.  No mention has been made that I know of of how much after Hawke's start in Lothering.  For all we know, his childhood isn't more than just mentioned in DA2.

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Felfenix wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 I again bet ten bucks on it being Flemeth. :bandit:


If it is, she's certainly more attractive now.

How messed up would it be if Flemeth took over Morrigan's child?


The Old God who's soul goes into the child is the Old God of Beauty.

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Urthemiel

Tellin ya flemmeth is too old and powerful to be killed by normal means.Look at awkening that one witch was able to survive in the fade.Maybe Flemmeth had a back up plan.