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[Brian.H]

Davasar wrote...

Time line does NOT match. Hawkes story is only a ten year span, his story starts after the attack on Lothering.

all we know is that he is from lothering and that his story will last ten years.

that does not mean that the ten years starts at lothering.

[Felfenix]

Arttis wrote...

Felfenix wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

 I again bet ten bucks on it being Flemeth. 

If it is, she's certainly more attractive now.

How messed up would it be if Flemeth took over Morrigan's child?

The Old God who's soul goes into the child is the Old God of Beauty.

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Urthemiel

Tellin ya flemmeth is too old and powerful to be killed by normal means.Look at awkening that one witch was able to survive in the fade.Maybe Flemmeth had a back up plan.

I was just saying why the Godchild's body would be... more beautiful than Flemeth, and perhaps why Flemeth may have specifically been after that body. She seemed rather fond of beauty, when, well, she'd talked about having been beautiful once, long ago.

[Kandene]

If could be that the cult was right and either you killed the dragon and her soul took over a party member or the dragon became that.



Its totally gonna be andraste for the twist factor.

[Jimmy Fury]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

mosaiclobster wrote...

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

Span means to extend does it not?

Span means that the game itself is 10 years worth of time. That's all it means, it doesn't speak at all to when the game starts in relation to Origins.

Seems pretty clear to me that they tell you Hawk started out in Lothering, then the story jumps 10 years into his future.  I can't say it anymore clear than this.

Sorry got distracted in another thread. You want the DA2 official site you got it:
"Embark upon an all-new adventure that takes place across an entire decade and shapes itself around every decision you make."
The game, once you start playing, occurs over the course of a decade.
Nowhere on the page does it say the game starts at lothering.

Modifié par Jimmy Fury, 10 juillet 2010 - 06:09 .

[phaonica]

sporky1 wrote...

Unless Morrigan's child ages in dog years, not likely

My thoughts exactly.

Felfenix wrote...

Who actually knows how fast a half Dragon-Demon-God half Human child conceived via ancient wild magic ritual by a Gray Warden and Witch would mature?

The quick to mature super child is a gimmick that's been pulled a lot in various settings, and I wouldn't put it past Bioware. There is crazier stuff in the DA world.

Yeah, this aging thing totally worked for Twilight.

[phaonica]

Kandene wrote...

If could be that the cult was right and either you killed the dragon and her soul took over a party member or the dragon became that.

Its totally gonna be andraste for the twist factor.

I think it'd be cool if she was Andraste. Or an awakened archdemon. And even though it wouldn't really be "shocking" for her to be the God Child, I think the story could still be good.

[yiasmin]

Altima Darkspells wrote...

Zerthus wrote...

Altima Darkspells wrote...

Might I offer an alternative theory?

The woman is clearly a magic user. If you look at male!Hawke, you'll notice in his non-sword arm, he has something of a claw. This woman also has a claw.

Couldn't it be possible that she is simply female!Hawke?

Aw, who am I kidding, BioWare will do the same thing it always does. Iconic!Hawke will be male, we'll never even see mention that Hawke can be either gender, and half the game base will be surprised that you can, indeed, choose Hawke to be female.

I am loving that theory sooooooo much, but I think the resemblance to the Dragon in the GI cover kinda makes it unlikely. Also, it's already be said multiple times that Hawke can be either male or female. 

Perhaps it's a mirror image of Hawke--you can be a valiant savior destroying darkspawn, or you can join the Blight yourself and bring destruction?

And yes, I know that BioWare has said Hawke can be male or female, but Iconic!Hawke--the Hawke they will use for commercials, previews, gameplay demos, in short, everything will be your standard ruggedly good looking male, like, say, Shepard.  Or even the Warden from DAO, at least in the commercials.  Go on--scower ME1/2's trailers, movies, and so on, see if you can find mention of femShepard.  You can't.

Beginning to think that BioWare's sexist with DAO, what with them hinting that the most badass female character in the game should end up knocked up.

As if most of the guys on this forum remotely resemble a' standard ruggedly good-looking male' anyway. It isn't called fantasy role-playing just for the 'girls' in bondage leather who vaguely resemble dragons. As a 40-something woman I idebtify about as much with either character in that regard, so I use my imagination instead. Knowing also that there will be lesbians and older women that I can identify with and characters I will like as a human being, or elf, or dwarf, or dog, or darkspawn. The writers already apologised for the antics of the marketing men, if more people listen to marketing than David Gaider when making their consumer purchase of Dragon Age then welcome to one of the eternal questions of any art form, art over commerce.
If there is sexism in the writing of DA2 beyond the deliberately intentional I will be surprised. If marketing executives have no shame I am unsurprised too. This is why i inform myself, as do you. Let's see what concessions in game design and story have been made to the marketing men and women first rather than peripheral advertising before making our minds up.

Modifié par yiasmin, 10 juillet 2010 - 06:17 .

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

http://gameinformer....gon-age-ii.aspx



I never said the game started in Lothering, just his/her lore information is that he was in Lothering and he/she escaped.





"Its totally gonna be andraste for the twist factor."



This would be an amazing plot twist.

[Xoxman1]

Another indicator that the woman and the dragon are in some way related; The game informer cover image. The back of the issue features yet another image of the woman. http://gameinformer....0_Revealed.aspx (Bottom of the article.) This time, just as the picture the OP mentioned, her hair and stance are similar to the dragon, more so in this case because of her left hand extending into the air. It points out in the same direction as one of the dragon's wings, and the C-shape her thumb and fingers form closely resemble the top of said wing. I'd say we can now assume they are CLOSELY related. perhaps she controlls it in some way? (like a puppet?) A darkspawn queen?

[atheelogos]

DJmacpher wrote...

I read this and I thought that it was good enough to share.

http://docs.google.c...mgn&interval=30


It's some very interesting points about the Mystery Girl seen in the concept/teaser art.

Evivva,
DJMacPher

Hmmmmmm Well she is a mage that much is clear, and we see a dragon. Who else is an old woman, is a mage, and can turn into a dragon? Flemeth anyone? That's my two cents on topic. Agree disagree let me know.

Modifié par atheelogos, 10 juillet 2010 - 06:22 .

[RunCDFirst]

atheelogos wrote...
I don't know if anyone has thought of this, but I think she's flemeth. Agree disagree?

Disagree but I would die of happiness if Kate Mulgrew returned.

[atheelogos]

RunCDFirst wrote...

atheelogos wrote...
I don't know if anyone has thought of this, but I think she's flemeth. Agree disagree?

Disagree but I would die of happiness if Kate Mulgrew returned.

It just seems right to me. She a mage that much is clear, and can turn into a dragon. And the devs have dropped hints that we may already know who she is. It has to be flemeth.

[DJmacpher]

Just saw this.

Looks like Indoctrination was on to something!

Modifié par DJmacpher, 10 juillet 2010 - 06:56 .

[mosaiclobster]

But you should all probably also check out the important link that was posted there, which makes our theories about the white haired women all pretty unlikely..

[JoltDealer]

A very well-explained theory. It makes a lot of sense. I really hope that this is the case in Dragon Age 2.

[mosaiclobster]

Game Informer says there's actually a bit of overlap between DA:O and DA2, so unless there's some crazy aging manipulation going on, it's very, very unlikely that the woman is Morrigan's child. Indeed, it seems unlikely that she has anything to do with Morrigan. Flemeth, maybe, but only if she appears late in the 10 year span.

[Felfenix]

mosaiclobster wrote...

Game Informer says there's actually a bit of overlap between DA:O and DA2, so unless there's some crazy aging manipulation going on, it's very, very unlikely that the woman is Morrigan's child. Indeed, it seems unlikely that she has anything to do with Morrigan. Flemeth, maybe, but only if she appears late in the 10 year span.

Felfenix wrote...

Who actually knows how fast a half Dragon-Demon-God half Human child conceived via ancient wild magic ritual by a Gray Warden and Witch would mature?

The quick to mature super child is a gimmick that's been pulled a lot in various settings, and I wouldn't put it past Bioware. There is crazier stuff in the DA world.

Considering the whole premise of Morrigan's child is that it's magical, Godly, and one of a kind, I wouldn't rule it out. What would be an interesting twist is learning Flemeth somehow possessed Morrigan sometime shortly before conceiving the child. Interesting, because of all the "I HAD SEX WITH FLEMETH!? FUUUUUU--" reactions. XD

Modifié par Felfenix, 10 juillet 2010 - 07:40 .

[SDNcN]

If the kid did rapidly mature i think it would be hilarious considering Morrigan's voice actor.

[Master Shiori]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

Span means to extend does it not?

It means the story in DA2 runs over a course of 10 years, not that it starts 10 years after DA:O.

If you actually bothered to read the official information, you'd know that Hawke was a grown man capable of fighting when he fled Lothering and Ferelden during the Blight. Therefore his adventures can start as soon as he arrives in the Free Marches.

That means the first 5 years of DA2 take place at the same time as Origins and Awakening, but in a different country.

[Ponce de Leon]

@OP : convincing, yes... yet too bad I, in my 8 (yes EIGHT) completed runs used the dark ritual just twice... I'd be even MORE disappointed if that was to be a cannon.

[Gill Kaiser]

I don't think those mooks like like Darkspawn. They look like undead to me. Likewise, I think the Dragon isn't an Archdemon.

[BLunted]

I like the Flemeth guess

[ell46]

I must be missing something, my understanding of this new game is that it begins while the blight is still on,



Quote: As the Grey Warden from Dragon Age: Origins was fighting darkspawn, Hawke was living in Lothering.



The game spans only 10 years so if it begins while the blight is still on this doesn't add up for me, any demon baby isn't even going to be 10 years old yet.



Couldn't this just be a case of over analysing an nice piece of art work?

[Livemmo]

Flemeth.

My guess is that since it spans 10 years you wont actually meet this npc until late in the game when the Warden wouldve already killed her/let her go. If the 2 paths of the Warden and Hawke actually are happening during the same time (which would make sense since it is a dragon AGE), and if it were to be Flemeth as predicted, it could all fall into place rather simply.

Modifié par Livemmo, 10 juillet 2010 - 10:37 .

[Gill Kaiser]

ell46 wrote...

I must be missing something, my understanding of this new game is that it begins while the blight is still on,

Quote: As the Grey Warden from Dragon Age: Origins was fighting darkspawn, Hawke was living in Lothering.

The game spans only 10 years so if it begins while the blight is still on this doesn't add up for me, any demon baby isn't even going to be 10 years old yet.

Couldn't this just be a case of over analysing an nice piece of art work?

You're right. The lady is either Morrigan herself or another of Flemeth's daughters, I'll wager.