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#101
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Jimmy Fury wrote...

I think someone is confused by the difference between "recruit" and "seek"
You might not have gone looking for the deadliest of allies but unless you killed them or left them to die you certainly did recruit most of them.


Well, we did go looking for the elves, dwarves, redcliffe knights(really the support of their leader), and mages.

That's what I mean by, "Deadliest of Allies".

That's what we did. We recruited them for a war. We faced it and won.

That was DAO in a nutshell. ME2 in a nutshell is the same thing, except its individual people rather than groups of people.

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Who the hell apologized for what they said. If you said it you mean it.

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But did they announce no race selection and you get one predefined character with DA:O?

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Kalfear wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Wait, what troll?

not you, leave it at that


Whoo. I was about to say neither of us are trolling so who is.

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Anathemic wrote...

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ITT: people freaking out over what might be the least amount of information ever released about a video game. I've seen no confirmation about any "Mass Effect" styled conversations, nor has any information regarding details of the voice-over been released.


You're behind look up the 5 facts of DA2 that gameinformer released


Those aren't details, that's just confirmation of the voice-over.  My wording was precise and is still accurate.

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Either me or Darth is the troll I take it

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Well, we'll just have to wait for the game to be released, whereupon following standard BioWare game release cycles, 95% of us and the rest of the gaming world will probably enjoy the game.



...don't let me down, guys XD Then I'll look silly, and all the dire predictions about the end of CRPGs as we know them will come true O.O

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Jestina wrote...

But did they announce no race selection and you get one predefined character with DA:O?


We need more info before we say he/she's predefined.

We do know they escaped Lothering, but we don't know what effects the choices we make will have on said backstory.

Its a bit convoluted. He/she is predefined, but at the same time, isn't.

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I say we declare a witch...troll hunt.

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LPPrince wrote...

Jestina wrote...

But did they announce no race selection and you get one predefined character with DA:O?


We need more info before we say he/she's predefined.

We do know they escaped Lothering, but we don't know what effects the choices we make will have on said backstory.

Its a bit convoluted. He/she is predefined, but at the same time, isn't.

Just no paragon/renegad crap....my head will expolde. But I know you're better then that Bioware. :)

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Gaider said something along the lines that the paragon/renegade system wasn't something that will make it into DA 2 in another thread

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David Gaider wrote...

elfdwarf wrote...
i'm sorry David Gaider
anything i that were harsh said in forum about dragon age 2 and champion hawke, i am sorry
and think dragon age 2 is great

It's okay, no need to apologize. The internet exists to post while you're hot, and then regret at leisure... I've done it myself. ;)

I'm glad you think DA2 is looking great, but isn't it just as early to say that, just like the people predicting doom? I'd wait to see how we've done the things that are being mentioned... just because they might resemble another game's system on the surface doesn't mean we'll implement it in exactly the same way. It's the nature of these forums for people to take a piece of information and applying the most extreme interpretation of that-- but it's no more true here than it was for these same predictions back in the days of meager DAO information (if anyone remembers them).

Not everyone will like what we've done, but we've yet to really show anyone what we've done... and that will come in time, as with any announced game.

Even so, I hope you do like the game when you eventually see/play it.


Why can't this be posted in every single thread on this board?

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Isabelle, dev has confirmed this in another front page topic. The topic title has something to do with "morality points"

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Isabelle Mortello wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Jestina wrote...

But did they announce no race selection and you get one predefined character with DA:O?


We need more info before we say he/she's predefined.

We do know they escaped Lothering, but we don't know what effects the choices we make will have on said backstory.

Its a bit convoluted. He/she is predefined, but at the same time, isn't.

Just no paragon/renegad crap....my head will expolde. But I know you're better then that Bioware. :)


It was annouced in another thread.
There is NO morality meter :D

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Gaider said something along the lines that the paragon/renegade system wasn't something that will make it into DA 2 in another thread

*Heartattack relieved* I hate that. I can never be who I want without consequences.

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Isabelle Mortello wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Jestina wrote...

But did they announce no race selection and you get one predefined character with DA:O?


We need more info before we say he/she's predefined.

We do know they escaped Lothering, but we don't know what effects the choices we make will have on said backstory.

Its a bit convoluted. He/she is predefined, but at the same time, isn't.

Just no paragon/renegad crap....my head will expolde. But I know you're better then that Bioware. :)


There won't be the paragon/renegade system. That's confirmed. That will remain as it was in DAO-

You decide what's positive and negative.

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Mr. Gaider, would you mind telling us if the Dark Ritual ending of Origins has indeed been canonized? A great many users would appreciate this matter being cleared up.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Mr. Gaider, would you mind telling us if the Dark Ritual ending of Origins has indeed been canonized? A great many users would appreciate this matter being cleared up.


This

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ejoslin wrote...

There is no reason at all for anyone to lie about the wheel and voiced Hawke. If it weren't true, someone from Bioware would have said so by now.

I honestly don't get it. There were parts of DAO that I wasn't crazy about, but it was the dialog that really kept me going.

Are the friendships and love interests as intense in ME and ME2 as they are in DA:O? I honestly don't see how they could be. I don't want to watch two people have a conversation, I want to feel a part of that conversation.

I'm sad. I don't mind my Warden's story being over (I was expecting it). I have played some very good voiced protagonist games, but none of them have made me feel a part of the world like DAO did. It's not only the writing. It's hearing the protagonist's line in my inner voice. Gah, I don't want to be surprised by why I'm supposed to be saying.


Look at me totally agreeing with Ejoslin! DA2 is uniting disparate elements of the fan base--in irritation, confusion, and dismay. ;)

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I still go back to the fact that DA: O was a very personable experience. It didn't matter if you made relationships with your companions. Whereas in ME2 you had to get along with your companions if you wanted them to survive in the end.



ME2 was an excellent game no doubt, but it wasn't the same as Dragon Age. So why put elements of ME 2 into Dragon Age? Maybe DA will be similar to ME, or maybe not. Time will only tell. I just hope the experience is as good as its predecessor.

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Is there really anything that is canon? That is kinda scary. Although probably necessary.

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LPPrince wrote...
Well, we did go looking for the elves, dwarves, redcliffe knights(really the support of their leader), and mages.

That's what I mean by, "Deadliest of Allies".

That's what we did. We recruited them for a war. We faced it and won.

That was DAO in a nutshell. ME2 in a nutshell is the same thing, except its individual people rather than groups of people.


I meant Kalfear and that other one who were claiming it's a ripoff because we didn't go looking for our companions.
Frankly by that logic both games are a ripoff because "picking up companions" is a pretty common part of the Heroes Journey.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Mr. Gaider, would you mind telling us if the Dark Ritual ending of Origins has indeed been canonized? A great many users would appreciate this matter being cleared up.


This


It was already said by one of them earlier in a former thread. I cannot for the life of me remember which, but I do remember they confirmed it was not, and Hawke is not her child, therefore, it is not canonized.

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Krytheos wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Mr. Gaider, would you mind telling us if the Dark Ritual ending of Origins has indeed been canonized? A great many users would appreciate this matter being cleared up.


This


It was already said by one of them earlier in a former thread. I cannot for the life of me remember which, but I do remember they confirmed it was not, and Hawke is not her child, therefore, it is not canonized.


He specifically said that Hawk was not the God Child.  But nothing more on that front. 

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Immersion immersion immersion. Am I going to feel like I am Hawke while I'm playing this game? Is it going to be a vacation from my every day life, getting me out of my head and into his/hers? Or am I going to be watching a movie where I get to direct the fight scenes somewhat and have to click a button every so often? "Cinematic" always makes me cringe. If I want to play an adventure game, I have a huge boner for parkour, I'll go play those; they're way more exciting, to me, than the combat style of ME or DA. If I want to play an RPG... well, it sounds like now I'll be stuck replaying older games and rolling dice like a nerd if I want to RP something.

You know, I could just go watch a movie and not have to click a button to advance, too.

It might be a great game, but it really is starting to sound like Dragon Effect, and I wanted DA2, which, you know, would have improved upon DA:O, not radically changed to resemble other games.

So, that's my big concern.  Am I, as generic player X, going to feel like I'm owning Hawke, am I going to be pulled into the character such that his actions are a natural expression, or am I just going to be directing his awesome adventures around Thedas?


This. Characters in The Witcher often look like they were halfway into their default modelling posed, had eyes that stared forever, and look like plastic. I was still far more immersed in it than I ever was in Mass Effect.

At least Mass Effect doesn't have stupid sex cards, to bring down the game's reputation, though.