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[Pissed_off_Gamer108]

 
Bioware's making DragonAge 2 more cinematic? We all know what that means. They're going to turn it into a $60 movie like ME2!! 
and the gaming industry is wondering WHY they've had their lowest grossing year in over a decade. Hmm, maybe because game developers keep focusing on the 'pretty' and not the f*cking DEPTH OF THE DAMN GAMES!!

Listen up Bioware, and you b*stards listen GOOD! We don't WANT A MOVIE!! We don 't want to play as some concept character of yours known as HAWKE! The whole f*cking point of Origins was to make our own Hero. What the hell happened to your boast of decisions in one game carrying over to the sequels,HUH?! In ME2, the decisions made in the first game counted for absolutely NOTHING! Ohhh, if we let Ash die or Alenko, the one who lived gets to tell us off. Yay! What fun! And the Rachni Queen. All we get is a message from her through some random Assari. WEEEE! We were sure happy about that, let me tell ya. 
The Suikoden Games back on the old PS1 and PS2 carried over from sequel to sequel better than your games! And the decision making in Alpha Protocal, while a short and boring game, at least had an impact on the game as you progressed. 
All you are,Bioware, is empty promises. It's like you all got degrees from Politician school! Oh, let's tell the gamers that we're going to give them a great game, and heh, let's half-ass it. 

Here's the bottomline. Unless you, and all the other developers,want to lose money and end up destroying the video game industry, you'll come to understand this simple concept. We gamers are the bosses. You all work for US! We pay your damn salaries every time we buy one of those $60 wastes of silicon! So don't YOU tell US what WE'LL like! We'll tell YOU!
Now,Dragon Age 2. No Hawke, no new cinematic BS. Give us exactly what the first game was. The graphics were fine, great to most, and the cinematics did they're job. You do NOT need to improve on that aspect and screw up the damn franchise! We get to use OUR HEROES from the first game, in an all new story. Because that's ALL we games want, a new story. Let the level cap go higher, give us new enemies and challenges, improve on the choice system--all that is fine. Just don't, and I repeat, DO F'N NOT, give us a Mass Effect 2 clone! Cause I promise you, we won't buy it. We won't talk about it, and BioWare will cease to be our favorite company. 
Now, if you need ideas for a new story, come to me. I'm a writer. I've played the game, the DLC, and read the novels based on them. I can sit down with your writers and give the people the sequel they all want. 

Fellow gamers, do you agree with what I've said? C'mon, stand up and be heard. This might just be a forum, but I know reps from the company watch it. Tell them what you want. Tell them what you'll do if you don't get it. My suggestion, boycott all BioWare products if they screw up Dragon Age!
Because I don't know about the rest of you, but in this era of gaming where everything is either First Person Shooters or lame ass Kiddy games(Yeah,talking to you Nintendo!), Dragon Age was the ONE game that reminded me WHY I shelled up $400 for the Original 360. 

[Gorthaur the Cruel]

You really live up to your name. Besides aren't their enough hate threads?

[Kijin]

Mass Effect 2 was highly cinematic, yet it still sold millions of copies. Granted, Dragon Age sold better, but it's not as if the whole gaming community hates the Cinematic style. Hell, cinematic games have sold extremely well as of late. They're the latest trend, so it's not surprising that Bioware is attempting to capitalize on it.

[MKDAWUSS]

What's wrong with movie video games? I kinda like eating popcorn while playing video games.

[Arttis]

wall of text hurts my poor eyes.

Anyways.

They already probably got all the major things done with DA2 we can only hope for a better DA3.I will probably buy the game as i enjoyed fable and this reminds me of a DA fable mix.

[Efesell]

Bring on some cinematic Dragon Age.

I'm excited to try it.

[Chuvvy]

U mad?

[Onyx Jaguar]

I should make multiple accounts to express my disappointment of this decision. Everyone else is apparently.

[MKDAWUSS]

Should they have used FMVs (live action [real people]) instead?

[Zerthus]

Um....hey, you should seriously calm down. =.=

Being more cinematic means it'll look a lot better, not destroy the game with a lack of depth.

And yes, the point of Origins was to create your own hero. That's why they called it Origins, and might I point out that the sequel is called Dragon Age 2, NOT Dragon Age: Origins 2.

Seriously, calm down and think before you sit down and rant about stuff you obviously put limited amount of thought into.

Also, with the limited information we have right now, we can't really tell ANYTHING specific about the game other than the very vague information we've been given.

-.-

[YunoRay]

Rawrrr! Angerrrrrr! SMASH!



Chill...



There's no reason for you to get so pissed off at a game that hasn't even been announced for the better side of a week. We don't know enough about this game to judge it so thoroughly. It's obviously not what many of us expected, but that does no automatically make this game unworthy of being played, and possibly even outshining Origins in story or depth.

[bjdbwea]

You got this wrong. They do all these things because they figure it will make them the most money, and it probably will.

[Onyx Jaguar]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

Should they have used FMVs (live action [real people]) instead?

Somebody has to bring it back.  Command and Conquer shouldn't be the only property that does this no?

[Darth_Trethon]

It's all over.....I understand that you hate good games and that if it was up to you you'd destroy the entire gaming industry with the exception of the worst studios but you've lost. DA2 will be a great and amazing game just like ME(1 & 2) were. I and all the other gamers out there that can appreciate great games with amazing narratives will buy and enjoy it while people like you will have to look for another developer that is willing to destroy their own games at your whim.....good luck with that.

[PsychoYoshi]

Looks like a Rage Demon made it out of the Fade somehow.

[LPPrince]

This dude needs to OD on chill pills.

[Babyinf3rno]

I just wanted to say Pissed off gamer, I bow to you good sir. I hate how we shell out so much money to play a great game and then the gaming industry goes and ruins it. I loved Origins, Awakening could of used more especially since it was an expansion. I am not looking forward to making one character, learning all new story line based on this new character and only that character. Sure, add a voice to our warden, let our characters get cocky and pissed off, but why force us to not have a choice in who we are. Everyone is going to be playing Hawk, human..hmm lots of fun...Origins built up the story line for awakening, where is the continuing story after awakening. Some say that the warden ran off looking for her/his lost love, some say she/he went back to court, but the story isn't over yet. How is the story going to continue with Hawk? He had no part in either campaign and they come up with this crappy story line that he is a survivor of the blight by escaping from Lothering blah blah blah. Come on, I know there are a lot of brilliant minds behind these games, I know they can come up with a lot better product then this. Let us import our characters and have Hawke as a companion or something. Everything I've read so far, which isn't a lot of detail on the game, doesn't sound like it's going to be worth the price or even the time to put into this. There are still a lot of questions that everyone has on their minds and hopefully some will be answered when we have more news of this DA:2, sadly I doubt we will be able to import though. And to me that is going to ruin the whole experience of the game. Graphics are great, but game play is what really sells the game. They say it will all be shaped around our decisions, which is great, but in my opinion playing with a strange character in a new land is something that I'm not really looking forward to at this time. IF we were able to import our characters I think that would help a great deal in enjoying the game more. Some of you may disagree but that is just my opinion.

[moteh]

Pissed_off_Gamer108 wrote...
Bioware's making DragonAge 2 more cinematic? We all know what that means. They're going to turn it into a $60 movie like ME2!! 
and the gaming industry is wondering WHY they've had their lowest grossing year in over a decade. Hmm, maybe because game developers keep focusing on the 'pretty' and not the f*cking DEPTH OF THE DAMN GAMES!!

Um, I thought it was because a) new game sales have decresed due to the recession, people end up buying used games and The Wii is still the top selling console around which doesn't cater to 'teh hardcorez" (it does, you just have to pay attention, but I digress)

Listen up Bioware, and you b*stards listen GOOD! We don't WANT A MOVIE!! We don 't want to play as some concept character of yours known as HAWKE! The whole f*cking point of Origins was to make our own Hero. What the hell happened to your boast of decisions in one game carrying over to the sequels,HUH?! In ME2, the decisions made in the first game counted for absolutely NOTHING! Ohhh, if we let Ash die or Alenko, the one who lived gets to tell us off. Yay! What fun! And the Rachni Queen. All we get is a message from her through some random Assari. WEEEE! We were sure happy about that, let me tell ya. 

Complaining about the choices from ME1 not having a huge impact in ME2 is like giving Frodo a map to Mordor in Fellowship of the Ring and expecting him to be in Mordor in the middle of Two Towers.  Return of the King is the last chapter when everything came to a climax, just as ME3 will be when all the major choices finally come to bear from ME1 and ME2.

The Suikoden Games back on the old PS1 and PS2 carried over from sequel to sequel better than your games! And the decision making in Alpha Protocal, while a short and boring game, at least had an impact on the game as you progressed. 
All you are,Bioware, is empty promises. It's like you all got degrees from Politician school! Oh, let's tell the gamers that we're going to give them a great game, and heh, let's half-ass it. 

I would not call ME2 half-assing it where decisions came into play, because the third chapter is still being made, so I have not seen the resolution of my choices much yet.  I have simply seen glimpses into the ocean depths so far, I have not dived in, yet..

Here's the bottomline. Unless you, and all the other developers,want to lose money and end up destroying the video game industry, you'll come to understand this simple concept. We gamers are the bosses. You all work for US! We pay your damn salaries every time we buy one of those $60 wastes of silicon! So don't YOU tell US what WE'LL like! We'll tell YOU!

Um, people who buy the game are the customers, people who produce the games are the bosses, the developer simply has the creative vision that the producer helps them to make a reality via funding and support.

Now,Dragon Age 2. No Hawke, no new cinematic BS. Give us exactly what the first game was.

Cause that moves an industry forward alright, constantly remaking the same thing is truly the way to go.

The graphics were fine, great to most, and the cinematics did they're job. You do NOT need to improve on that aspect and screw up the damn franchise! We get to use OUR HEROES from the first game, in an all new story. Because that's ALL we games want, a new story. Let the level cap go higher, give us new enemies and challenges, improve on the choice system--all that is fine. Just don't, and I repeat, DO F'N NOT, give us a Mass Effect 2 clone! Cause I promise you, we won't buy it. We won't talk about it, and BioWare will cease to be our favorite company. 

Yet here you are talking about it and on their fan forums.  I want a new story too, but you can't have the same hero all the time.  What happens if your warden died in the first game?  Why can't there be more than one hero in the universe?  Why is your one warden the only person who can affect change in the world?  What an ego to think you hold such power.

Now, if you need ideas for a new story, come to me. I'm a writer. I've played the game, the DLC, and read the novels based on them. I can sit down with your writers and give the people the sequel they all want.

Unless I can go to my local libarary and find you on the shelves of the fantasy section or go to IMDB and find you on the listing as a writer for a movie rated above a 5 I dont' think you would work out writing a story for a game like DA, unless you just want it to be some fanfic that isn't cannon and doesn't fit with the designers overall ideaology for the universe..

Fellow gamers, do you agree with what I've said? C'mon, stand up and be heard. This might just be a forum, but I know reps from the company watch it. Tell them what you want. Tell them what you'll do if you don't get it. My suggestion, boycott all BioWare products if they screw up Dragon Age!
Because I don't know about the rest of you, but in this era of gaming where everything is either First Person Shooters or lame ass Kiddy games(Yeah,talking to you Nintendo!), Dragon Age was the ONE game that reminded me WHY I shelled up $400 for the Original 360. 

Go play Super Mario Galaxy 2 and when you get to 242 stars I'll allow you to call it kiddy if you still believe it. Graphics and sound effects doesn't make something kiddy. The ability to look past the surface and see the substance beneath is the mark of a mature gamer.

As for your purchasing an Xbox 360 for Dragon Age... um... PC version anyone?  You can mod it, make your own campaigns, keep making them for years and you can sit there in your little DAO heaven where everything is exactly how you want it.

I have stood up, I have been heard... I wanted a deep world where I could get lost in.  I wanted an experience that I could make lasting decisions in.  I wanted to see new lands and meet new people.  I became a gamer, now if you want to become a game designer and make the game the way you want, by all means, the industry needs fresh ideas, but chastising a game before you even play it is seldom a way to get things done.  I hear it doesn't work for books either.  Imagine that.

Modifié par moteh, 10 juillet 2010 - 05:25 .

[Mercuriol]

Pissed_off_Gamer108 wrote...

 
Give us exactly what the first game was.

But but but... I already played that game.

[SDNcN]

Mercuriol wrote...

Pissed_off_Gamer108 wrote...

 
Give us exactly what the first game was.

But but but... I already played that game.

[Davasar]

To the OP: A courageous stance sir. Few people have the back bone voice their ACTUAL opinion, let alone put it in text form. The spend time being diplomatic instead of just laying it all on the line. I pay homage to you.

[LPPrince]

SDNcN wrote...

Mercuriol wrote...

Pissed_off_Gamer108 wrote...

 
Give us exactly what the first game was.

But but but... I already played that game.

[errant_knight]

Dude...you have to relax. I agree with you in principle, and I'm saying that. Seriously, you're going to give yourself an aneurysm. We don't have to buy this if it turns out to be what I think it's going to be. We can still play Origins. We have the toolkit. It's not worth getting this upset. Elements of this are very disappointing, but it's still not worth it.