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[Xoxman1]

I'd just like to point out to everyone, that we only know two things regarding timeline;

Hawke was at Lothering, and the game spans a decade.

The game does not necesarily start AT lothering, it could in fact start several years after. I mean, just look at Hawk? Does he look like someone to run from a fight? No, so it's likely he was young and inexperienced at Lothering, perhaps little more than a child. Does he look like a young man either? Again, no, so it's likely this takes place a good few years after Lothering.


Just had to get that off my chest. Although, knowing my luck I'm going to find out immediately after this thread that GI confirmed it starts in Lothering or something. (My copy hasn't come in the mail yet.)

[jsachun]

Maybe he was that little boy you talked to in Lothering that lost his mother?

[LPPrince]

Rofl. I hope you're luck isn't so bad. But we'll see. I'll be glad to see Lothering again.

[LPPrince]

jsachun wrote...

Maybe he was that little boy you talked to in Lothering that lost his mother?

Hawke can be a girl you know, so that link would be impossible.

[Onyx Jaguar]

You just made me think of the possibility of all those fine folk you meet in DA:O getting slaughtered in front of your eyes in DA 2

[TheMadCat]

I don't think I've seen anyone say the game is going to start in Lothering. Of course threads are flying are to damn quick to keep tabs on every little thing. But no, I doubt this game starts in Lothering considering you're the champion of Kirkwall I believe, or whatever the hell the title is.

[MKDAWUSS]

LPPrince wrote...

jsachun wrote...

Maybe he was that little boy you talked to in Lothering that lost his mother?

Hawke can be a girl you know, so that link would be impossible.

And that boy was preset with red hair.

It could be one of those random NPCs, though.

[mosaiclobster]

THANK YOU. This has been bothering me.



And Maker's Breath I am so sick of this theory about the BOY in Lothering. It was clearly a boy, with a boy's voice and boy's body. Aka it cannot be Hawke, who can be either gender. Play through that part again and you'll see that there's no gender ambiguity. If I had a dollar for every time I've read about that stupid kid today..

[jsachun]

LPPrince wrote...

jsachun wrote...

Maybe he was that little boy you talked to in Lothering that lost his mother?

Hawke can be a girl you know, so that link would be impossible.

He certainly isn't pictured as a female in the Marketing Material.

Modifié par jsachun, 10 juillet 2010 - 05:36 .

[Aristorum]

Stop assuming we're making assumptions.



But I agree. If Hawke is half the badass he appears to be, I don't think he'd run away from a fight. But I think an entire army of darkspawn is certain death for a single man.

[mosaiclobster]

And this is why we need some Fem!Hawke marketing

[Indoctrination]

images.play.com/banners/content/15784432%20Large.jpg

I think it's likely that the prologue involves Hawk being chased out of Lothering by the darkspawn given these Play.com screens.

[jsachun]

Why do I feel Bioware is ripping off Obsidian? Is it just me or does the begining of FO NV sound just like DA2

[Zerthus]

Another hint that it may not start in Lothering is that the game is supposed to take place in a new area, with new challenges, a new hero, and all that other new stuff they mentioned. The new area/region is the big key in this discussion. If the game takes place in a new location, which we assume are the Free Marches based on the Kirkland reference, then I highly doubt they'd start in one of the more familiar areas.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Indoctrination wrote...

images.play.com/banners/content/15784432%20Large.jpg

I think it's likely that the prologue involves Hawk being chased out of Lothering by the darkspawn given these Play.com screens.

Looks like a modified version of the engine DA:O runs.  At least some of my fear that this game is being rushed is being smothered a bit.

[SDNcN]

jsachun wrote...

Why do I feel Bioware is ripping off Obsidian? Is it just me or does the begining of FO NV sound just like DA2

Guy gets shot delivering a package and wakes up in Vegas.

Guy flees a horde of monsters and arrives as a refugee in Kirkwall.


Completely the same.

[Onyx Jaguar]

I don't know if you are looking for a yes. But sure why not

[Jimmy Fury]

TheMadCat wrote...

I don't think I've seen anyone say the game is going to start in Lothering. Of course threads are flying are to damn quick to keep tabs on every little thing. But no, I doubt this game starts in Lothering considering you're the champion of Kirkwall I believe, or whatever the hell the title is.

You sir, have not been reading enough of the panic attack threads

Indoctrination wrote...

images.play.com/banners/content/15784432%20Large.jpg

I
think it's likely that the prologue involves Hawk being chased out of
Lothering by the darkspawn given these Play.com screens.

How on earth can you possibly see entire storyline elements based on two tiny pictures!?
Plus, if you look between the ogres legs you can see a city, at a lower altitude, off in the distance. Lothering was not on a mountain.

Modifié par Jimmy Fury, 10 juillet 2010 - 05:44 .

[RunCDFirst]

jsachun wrote...

Why do I feel Bioware is ripping off Obsidian? Is it just me or does the begining of FO NV sound just like DA2

I could think of a lot of worst things than this. 

[SirOccam]

I think the confusion comes from potentially contradictory descriptions of Hawke as a "penniless refugee" and as "Champion of Kirkwall."

So it seems that he flees Ferelden (Lothering) for the Free Marches (Kirkwall), so it certainly doesn't take a great stretch of the imagination to see how someone fleeing a Blight could end up penniless and destitute.
It's obvious that achieving the title of Champion of Kirkwall happens after he arrives there (of course), but if the game only starts after that, then why describe him as a penniless refugee? And "penniless refugee" is a much more logical starting point for a story that is supposed to be documenting a character's "rise to power."

So the possibilities, as I see them, are as follows:

1. The game starts in Lothering, and we are there for the flight as well as the stuff in Kirkwall.
2. The game starts in Kirkwall, Hawke having just arrived, and earning that title is sort of the game's introductory sequence, or this game's equivalent to an Origin
3. The game starts AFTER the Kirkwall stuff, in which case I have to ask again, why describe him as a "penniless refugee?"
4. The title of Champion is part of the game's end goal, in which case why describe him as Champion already? Also, most of the hints seem to be that Hawke will be more important than just a hero of one town.

Of course the true answer could be something entirely different, but I'm not sure what else could make sense given what we already know. Personally I think #s 3 and 4 are right out, and if I had to choose, I'd go with #2. I have to say I can't see them creating Lothering for the game if we're only going to be there a short time and then spend the rest of the time in the Free Marches.

Obviously there's a lot of information we don't have yet; I'm sure something will come out soon that will make some sense of all of this.

Modifié par SirOccam, 10 juillet 2010 - 05:51 .

[Arttis]

I think becomin champion would be like At the Ostagar level.

Origin would be the training.

And then the main plot is revealed.

[MKDAWUSS]

Also, keep in mind that basically everyone in Lothering was pretty much penniless, especially the refugees

[Arttis]

I see becoming the champion of Kirkwall similar to becoming a grey warden in DAO.

In the DAO ads you were a greywarden but you did not start as such in the game.

[TheMadCat]

You sir, have not been reading enough of the panic attack threads /images/forum/emoticons/wink.png

No, unfortunately I've read quite a few. But there is just so goddamn many.

[jsachun]

It just begs the question "Is he going to be a champion of the Grey as well?" Not without slaying the Archdemon I suppose. So it's a half ass battle with dark Spawns or Full fledged battle with Free Marchians?!!

Modifié par jsachun, 10 juillet 2010 - 05:54 .