(sorry im gonna whine)
Ok, so were getting dialogue wheel. I dont mind, I kinda liked it in MEs.
But one thing that annoyed me a lot was that lines in the wheel were paraphrased.
I mean, clicking "Investigate" then go "Personal History" is... just boring.
I wanna see what im clicking at. Like in The Witcher (yes I went there)
Please, do not paraphrase lines.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 12:01
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Boring you say?
Reading through something, and then sitting through it being repeated again sounds even more boring to be honest.
Reading through something, and then sitting through it being repeated again sounds even more boring to be honest.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 12:02
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Whats so bad about mentioning The Witcher? There's only so many ways they can do dialog. My guess is there will be paraphrasing.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 12:03
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Behindyounow wrote...
Boring you say?
Reading through something, and then sitting through it being repeated again sounds even more boring to be honest.
Yeah dialogue was boring since phrases had no spice.
I mean, yeah, repeating isnt really best, but if I have to pick one of two evils, Id go for the Witcher/Gothic way.
It wouldnt be problem if character wasnt voiced. But thats different topic.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 12:03
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That guess makes me a sad panda.slimgrin wrote...
My guess is there will be paraphrasing.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 12:06
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Maybe they will better approximate, or abbreviate what Hawke will say, so there will be no surprises. It did get reduntant in The Witcher, reading a line and then hearing it immediately after.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 12:06
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slimgrin wrote...
Whats so bad about mentioning The Witcher? There's only so many ways they can do dialog. My guess is there will be paraphrasing.
Yep, it is already comfrimed
Thats the reason of my whine
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 12:11
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slimgrin wrote...
Maybe they will approximate, or abbreviate what Hawke will say, so there will be no surprises. It did get reduntant in The Witcher, reading a line and then hearing it immediately after.
This. One of the many reasons, albeit a small one, why I didn't like The Witcher. I've read it already, do I really need to listen to it, again?
I'd rather pick the opposite approach, like presented in Alpha Protocoll. There you just pick the general tone of your response, and it worked, at least for me.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 12:16
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Merci357 wrote...
slimgrin wrote...
Maybe they will approximate, or abbreviate what Hawke will say, so there will be no surprises. It did get reduntant in The Witcher, reading a line and then hearing it immediately after.
This. One of the many reasons, albeit a small one, why I didn't like The Witcher. I've read it already, do I really need to listen to it, again?
I'd rather pick the opposite approach, like presented in Alpha Protocoll. There you just pick the general tone of your response, and it worked, at least for me.
I didnt really mind hearing stuff again, since czech voice actor was just genial. But still, one click and you skip it
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 12:17
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Stalky24 wrote...
(sorry im gonna whine)
Ok, so were getting dialogue wheel. I dont mind, I kinda liked it in MEs.
But one thing that annoyed me a lot was that lines in the wheel were paraphrased.
I mean, clicking "Investigate" then go "Personal History" is... just boring.
I wanna see what im clicking at. Like in The Witcher (yes I went there)
I think it depends on how good the paraphrasing is. I mean, when talking we have a germ of an idea that we feel emotionally before we actually speak. If the paraphrase gives us a good idea of what to expect I'm fine with it. After all, the games have never allowed us to write our own dialogue. We're already just picking lines that Bioware writers write.
For example, in Dragon Age when Morrigan asks if she should be tied to a stake and burned you can choose "Maybe tied to a flagpole and tickled." On a wheel, it just becomes "Maybe tied and tickled." Then you could hear the full line from your PC. That would be fine. "[Mocking and flirtatious]" would be a pretty fail paraphrase though. I think it comes down to the implementation. I say give the writers the benefit of the doubt for now. And, if need be, mock them later.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 12:21
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Giltspur wrote...
Stalky24 wrote...
(sorry im gonna whine)
Ok, so were getting dialogue wheel. I dont mind, I kinda liked it in MEs.
But one thing that annoyed me a lot was that lines in the wheel were paraphrased.
I mean, clicking "Investigate" then go "Personal History" is... just boring.
I wanna see what im clicking at. Like in The Witcher (yes I went there)
I think it depends on how good the paraphrasing is. I mean, when talking we have a germ of an idea that we feel emotionally before we actually speak. If the paraphrase gives us a good idea of what to expect I'm fine with it. After all, the games have never allowed us to write our own dialogue. We're already just picking lines that Bioware writers write.
For example, in Dragon Age when Morrigan asks if she should be tied to a stake and burned you can choose "Maybe tied to a flagpole and tickled." On a wheel, it just becomes "Maybe tied and tickled." Then you could hear the full line from your PC. That would be fine. "[Mocking and flirtatious]" would be a pretty fail paraphrase though. I think it comes down to the implementation. I say give the writers the benefit of the doubt for now. And, if need be, mock them later.
I'm down with this approach. I also think its most likely what they will do. We'll get a dialog wheel, but the choices will closely approximate what Hawke says.
Modifié par slimgrin, 10 juillet 2010 - 12:22 .
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 12:41
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I urge you, do not restate the discussion in a different form.
Stalky24 wrote...
(I apologize, for I may vent)
We have acknowledged the presence of a dialogue wheel. I bear no ill-will, for I appreciated this feature in Mass Effect.
However, hiding the meaning of the responses by restating them on the dialogue wheel was a major source of irritation.
Navigating to the "Investigate" option to access personal history is trite. I would prefer to view my available options. This is most comparable to "The Witcher" game (although I agree that this may be slightly tangential to the topic at hand)
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 12:50
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If we have to have paraphrasing, then I'd like to see an overall sentiment added to it. For example 'no' could be 'No [apologetic and sympathetic]' or 'No [Annoyed and violent]'. The former could translate into 'I'm sorry, but I can't do that right now' while the latter could be '*punch in the face*'.
