Amidst all the rage about not being able to pick your race or having to talk etc etc, the thing that annoys me most is the use of the place name Kirkwall.
I have family in the REAL Kirkwall http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkwall so whenever I hear the name used I just remember going there to visit my family, the radoactive beaches and the time me and my cousin set and old sofa on fire. It ruins immersion for me.
You'd think in a magical fantasy kingdom of magical wonder elves and dragons and stuff they'd be able to make up a new place name rather than rehashing an obscure Scottish town.
Kirkwall- A silly place name to use
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Wugger
, juil. 10 2010 01:14
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 01:16
Arttis
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Think Kirkell.
Sorry to hear that bud.
Sorry to hear that bud.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 01:16
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While the development is pretty far along, there might still be time to add a burning sofa into Dragon Age II to improve immersion.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 01:16
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You realize the PC's name is Hawke, right? That's way sillier IMO.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 01:17
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Better than simply "Kirk" I suppose... or "Kirkfloor".
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 01:20
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At least they didn't pick Weisshaupt, which translates as 'Whitehead' and while a legal composite bears no meaning without context and is not part of any idiomatic place naming convention. Bloody foreigners and their dictionaries.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:12
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Dick Delaware wrote...
You realize the PC's name is Hawke, right? That's way sillier IMO.
Maybe they should have done it the other way round. Call the region Hawke, and the guy Kirk.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:18
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Said it in another thread as well. To me 'Kirkwall' sounds like the name of a 50-man village in the middle of nowhere, where the regional delicacy is mud with chicken.
I can think of better-named places to be champion of.
I can think of better-named places to be champion of.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:26
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Helena Tylena wrote...
Said it in another thread as well. To me 'Kirkwall' sounds like the name of a 50-man village in the middle of nowhere, where the regional delicacy is mud with chicken.
I can think of better-named places to be champion of.
hey nothing against 50-man villages.... were a... strong community.....thats right..... always be aware.....
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:27
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Like Haven was a strong community?
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:27
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AlexXIV wrote...
Dick Delaware wrote...
You realize the PC's name is Hawke, right? That's way sillier IMO.
Maybe they should have done it the other way round. Call the region Hawke, and the guy Kirk.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:44
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So Bio has to use only completely made-up place names that don't match any real-world towns?
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 02:46
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There's nothing particularly silly about it. Since most of the cultures are inspired by real ones, and many of the place names are styled after a particular real culture and language, its not at all surprising that a real world match might pop up.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 03:48
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It shows a total lack of imagination on the part of bioware, may as well call Hawke champion of Dallas or Seattle. And in answer to Alanc9, yes, if your gonna make a fictional world you should have fictional places, it's like the nations in Dragon Age being Fereleden, Orlais and Mexico.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 03:49
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Please. The real Kirkwall is hardly as well known as Dallas or Seattle.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 03:50
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Who can come up with something better?
instead of Hawke...
instead of Kirkwall...
instead of Hawke...
instead of Kirkwall...
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 03:53
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Maybe Hawke could be:
-Landon
-Carter
-Garrison
Kirkwall:
-You what? I kinda like Kirkwall.
-Landon
-Carter
-Garrison
Kirkwall:
-You what? I kinda like Kirkwall.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 03:55
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Oh dear God no, here comes Hawke with his magical toupee to save the day....MKDAWUSS wrote...
AlexXIV wrote...
Dick Delaware wrote...
You realize the PC's name is Hawke, right? That's way sillier IMO.
Maybe they should have done it the other way round. Call the region Hawke, and the guy Kirk.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 03:56
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Kirkwall in Orkney.
Or is that Hawkeney?
Or is that Hawkeney?
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 03:58
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The real problem with Kirkwall per se is that the word kirk references a church. And we have no churches in Thedas, only Chantries. So etymologically, the name has no place in Thedas.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 04:00
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Are you saying Mike Hawke won't want to breach Kirkwall?
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 04:01
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This just in! People really will complain about anything imaginable. More at 11.
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 04:03
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Are you saying Mike Hawke won't want to breach Kirkwall?
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Posté 10 juillet 2010 - 04:08
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[quote]Wugger wrote...
It shows a total lack of imagination on the part of bioware, may as well call Hawke champion of Dallas or Seattle.
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That's assuming anyone at Bio knew there was a real Kirkwall. I didn't know that until I read this thread. It sounded like a place name that might be real, if the local language was English.
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And in answer to Alanc9, yes, if your gonna make a fictional world you should have fictional places, it's like the nations in Dragon Age being Fereleden, Orlais and Mexico.[/quote]
Bad example. Orlais isn't a made-up word either. Google it for yourself and you'll see. You'll have to filter out a ton of DA content, of course.
But let's just discount that as another Bio mistake, and say that Bio should use made-up gibberish rather than names that sound like they're from English. I'm going to disagree -- Kirkwall sounds better than made-up gibberish.
Tolkien could get away with just making up original names because he had a made-up language to use. Even then, the Common names of places were often the names of real places. And of course, he often translated Common names into English equivalents because they captured the meaning better.
It shows a total lack of imagination on the part of bioware, may as well call Hawke champion of Dallas or Seattle.
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That's assuming anyone at Bio knew there was a real Kirkwall. I didn't know that until I read this thread. It sounded like a place name that might be real, if the local language was English.
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And in answer to Alanc9, yes, if your gonna make a fictional world you should have fictional places, it's like the nations in Dragon Age being Fereleden, Orlais and Mexico.[/quote]
Bad example. Orlais isn't a made-up word either. Google it for yourself and you'll see. You'll have to filter out a ton of DA content, of course.
But let's just discount that as another Bio mistake, and say that Bio should use made-up gibberish rather than names that sound like they're from English. I'm going to disagree -- Kirkwall sounds better than made-up gibberish.
Tolkien could get away with just making up original names because he had a made-up language to use. Even then, the Common names of places were often the names of real places. And of course, he often translated Common names into English equivalents because they captured the meaning better.
