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Bryy_Miller

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GI also revealed that you get to choose what exactly makes you Kirkwall's champion.

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

GI also revealed that you get to choose what exactly makes you Kirkwall's champion.


That's it.

I'm opening the biggest chain of lemonade stands EVARR.

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I thought it should be something more Greek sounding, rather than Scottish.



Maybe they should have called it Portland or Springfield. Aren't enough of those

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I'm pretty sure people would have said the same thing about Lothering if they knew about it before release

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Chaia wrote...

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You realize the PC's name is Hawke, right? That's way sillier IMO.


Maybe they should have done it the other way round. Call the region Hawke, and the guy Kirk.



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Oh dear God no, here comes Hawke with his magical toupee to save the day....

I want a science officer named Spock and a Doctor named McCoy.

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My only problem with "Kirkwall" is that, if I'm not mistaken, Kirk = Church... yet Thedas doesn't have churches; it has chantries.  Of course, that's just me nitpicking.  :P  It's a fine name.

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LPPrince wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

GI also revealed that you get to choose what exactly makes you Kirkwall's champion.


That's it.

I'm opening the biggest chain of lemonade stands EVARR.


"Man, this summer is super hot!"
"Hey kids, I just got the new Cherry-flavored Kirkwall's Champion Lemonade!"
"YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!"

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

GI also revealed that you get to choose what exactly makes you Kirkwall's champion.


That's it.

I'm opening the biggest chain of lemonade stands EVARR.


"Man, this summer is super hot!"
"Hey kids, I just got the new Cherry-flavored Kirkwall's Champion Lemonade!"
"YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!"


"Hey Kids! Say hello to our lovely spokespeople!"

"Bill Brightoutside, Tornado Tederman, Sleet Olrich, Radar Doppler, Muggy Mathers, Windy Clogcakes, Cloudy McMillan, and Humid Hernandez!"

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jselene wrote...

My only problem with "Kirkwall" is that, if I'm not mistaken, Kirk = Church... yet Thedas doesn't have churches; it has chantries.  Of course, that's just me nitpicking.  :P  It's a fine name.


What if "kirk" equals "church" equals "chantry"? Problem solved! ^_^

I'm French so I guess that if the game was set in Orlais I'd be running into the same sort of "problem" with place names. If Bioware is aiming for a Scottish atmosphere for the Free Marches then it will be awesome! Scotland is a fantastic place!

Modifié par Kalcalan, 12 juillet 2010 - 09:07 .


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Bryy_Miller wrote...

GI also revealed that you get to choose what exactly makes you Kirkwall's champion.


Really? I find that hard to believe.

Hawke "So here I am in Kirkwall, whats a man got to do to become champion round here?"

Villager "Well we got an army of Darkspawn ready to breach the north wall, you could deal with that however there is also a few other matters you could take care of"

Hawke "Like what"

Villager "Well our king is dying so I suppose you could go on a dangerous quest to find the cure or there is also the Jade Monkey Dragon that keeps harrasing our village and needs delt with, take your pick"

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I got it, we rename it to Kirkland so then that way in Dragon Age 2, Hawke is the Champion of Costco!

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_-Greywolf-_ wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

GI also revealed that you get to choose what exactly makes you Kirkwall's champion.


Really? I find that hard to believe.

Hawke "So here I am in Kirkwall, whats a man got to do to become champion round here?"

Villager "Well we got an army of Darkspawn ready to breach the north wall, you could deal with that however there is also a few other matters you could take care of"

Hawke "Like what"

Villager "Well our king is dying so I suppose you could go on a dangerous quest to find the cure or there is also the Jade Monkey Dragon that keeps harrasing our village and needs delt with, take your pick"


We'll see. I doubt it will be as lame as that.

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I got it, we rename it to Kirkland so then that way in Dragon Age 2, Hawke is the Champion of Costco!


And they say evolution does not exist.

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

_-Greywolf-_ wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

GI also revealed that you get to choose what exactly makes you Kirkwall's champion.


Really? I find that hard to believe.

Hawke "So here I am in Kirkwall, whats a man got to do to become champion round here?"

Villager "Well we got an army of Darkspawn ready to breach the north wall, you could deal with that however there is also a few other matters you could take care of"

Hawke "Like what"

Villager "Well our king is dying so I suppose you could go on a dangerous quest to find the cure or there is also the Jade Monkey Dragon that keeps harrasing our village and needs delt with, take your pick"


We'll see. I doubt it will be as lame as that.


I am just finding it hard to believe that we will be able to choose what makes us the Champion of Kirkwall, to me it just seems like (and probably is) Game Informer talking it up to be more than it is.

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AlanC9 wrote...

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It shows a total lack of imagination on the part of bioware, may as well call Hawke champion of Dallas or Seattle.


That's assuming anyone at Bio knew there was a real Kirkwall. I didn't know that until I read this thread. It sounded like a place name that might be real, if the local language was English.




This. I had no idea either.

My first thoughts on the name were simple: I'm just glad it wasn't Spockwall or McCoywall.

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Personally, I would feel so awesome if the city in a game was named after my hometown. However, I doubt I would ever become the champion of Chicago in a game.

Modifié par stevej713, 12 juillet 2010 - 10:31 .


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IronVanguard wrote...

Chaia wrote...

MKDAWUSS wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...

Dick Delaware wrote...

You realize the PC's name is Hawke, right? That's way sillier IMO.


Maybe they should have done it the other way round. Call the region Hawke, and the guy Kirk.



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Oh dear God no, here comes Hawke with his magical toupee to save the day....

I want a science officer named Spock and a Doctor named McCoy.


Spock HAS to be an elf

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Ahh The champion of Eagle Rock. I like it.

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Gegenlicht wrote...
Pretty certain they picked a lot of the names from real maps or travel guides or whatever. The Anderfels contain names of a number of existing German towns and cities for example, Rialto, the capital of wherever Zevran's from again, is a city quarter of Venice and so on.

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And mostly all of Thedas is inspired by the real world. Orlais is France, Ferelden is England, the Anderfels is Germany and so on. Hell, the history of the Elves bears striking resemblances to the history the Jewish people to some extent. Driven from their homeland, roaming the earth, ghettoized and generally treated as second class people.

We don't deliberately pick names off a map, if that's what you're suggesting. Sometimes the names we come up with happen to coincide with an existing place-- really, when you're making stuff like this up it's bound to happen from time to time, and I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often than it does.

As it is there's nothing to associate Kirkwall of the Far Reaches with the Scottish town beyond them sharing the name.

Modifié par David Gaider, 12 juillet 2010 - 10:50 .


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David Gaider wrote...

Gegenlicht wrote...
Pretty certain they picked a lot of the names from real maps or travel guides or whatever. The Anderfels contain names of a number of existing German towns and cities for example, Rialto, the capital of wherever Zevran's from again, is a city quarter of Venice and so on.

Edit: 
And mostly all of Thedas is inspired by the real world. Orlais is France, Ferelden is England, the Anderfels is Germany and so on. Hell, the history of the Elves bears striking resemblances to the history the Jewish people to some extent. Driven from their homeland, roaming the earth, ghettoized and generally treated as second class people.

We don't deliberately pick names off a map, if that's what you're suggesting. Sometimes the names we come up with happen to coincide with an existing place-- really, when you're making stuff like this up it's bound to happen from time to time, and I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often than it does.

As it is there's nothing to associate Kirkwall of the Far Reaches with the Scottish town beyond them sharing the name.



in these times it is hard to come up with new things right? Most of the time you come up with a name you realize it later something else is already called that, just like Batman. :happy:

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Wugger wrote...

It shows a total lack of imagination on the part of bioware, may as well call Hawke champion of Dallas or Seattle. And in answer to Alanc9, yes, if your gonna make a fictional world you should have fictional places, it's like the nations in Dragon Age being Fereleden, Orlais and Mexico.


I think your thinking to much of Krikwall. They probably did make it up. There just happened to be a town named Kirkwall.

Well how bout that David proved me right.

Modifié par Slidell505, 12 juillet 2010 - 10:56 .


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I heard somewhere that the country Orlais was named different at first,but because it was named after a French city they named the country Orlais.

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Risax wrote...

I heard somewhere that the country Orlais was named different at first,but because it was named after a French city they named the country Orlais.


Orlais sure does look a lot like Orleans. :)

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Jedi_blues wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Wugger wrote...

It shows a total lack of imagination on the part of bioware, may as well call Hawke champion of Dallas or Seattle.


That's assuming anyone at Bio knew there was a real Kirkwall. I didn't know that until I read this thread. It sounded like a place name that might be real, if the local language was English.




This. I had no idea either.

My first thoughts on the name were simple: I'm just glad it wasn't Spockwall or McCoywall.


I had no idea there was a real Elm Way when I started making my webseries.

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I agree. The names we're hearing so far do sound a bit... uncreative and odd, but maybe it's just something you have to settle into over time in order to feel comfortable with.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 13 juillet 2010 - 12:26 .