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[ezek01]

Is it just me or is this the hardest decision ever?  I am trying to RP my character to be a good character, but I am so torn as for what to do here.  On one hand you can side with Alistair (who is my favorite character in the whole game btw), but that means you have to kill Loghain.  If you side with Anora you save Loghain's life but you lose Alistair.  I have not had to think this hard about a video game decision in ages!

[Benndak]

Think about everything Loghain's done. Think reeaaal hard.

[hyacinthi]

Ditto.

[Wissenschaft]

Easy choice for me. I take my sword and chop Loghain head off.

[BewareTheDrow]

Yeah same, Loghain is responsible for the death of the king, the death of duncan, and the death of the vast majority of Grey Wardens in Ferelden. I let Allistar chop off his head.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Loghain deserves so many deaths...

[PMorgan18]

Killed him right there it was.... satisfying.

[dewayne31]

even though i'm not that far yet. i have no love for the man who is a traitor to the crown he swear to protect, no matter his motatives

[Dregor Thule]

I still can't really reconcile Loghain in the game and Loghain in the book. I've only read the first book, I dunno if he's in the second at all, but there seemed to be a huge disconnect in personality between them.



Maybe it's just me.



Anyways, I kept Loghain and Alistair ran off.

[Reiella]

Dregor Thule wrote...

I still can't really reconcile Loghain in the game and Loghain in the book. I've only read the first book, I dunno if he's in the second at all, but there seemed to be a huge disconnect in personality between them.

Maybe it's just me.

Anyways, I kept Loghain and Alistair ran off.

Haven't read the book, but what I can tell from the game, is that he's lost his rational self out of fear of the Orlesians.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Heh, I hated his guts when I read the book. When I played the game I actually expected to see something that would make me respect his decisions and make the choice harder, but the game Loghain just made my previous hatred for him all the more justified and concrete.



I can't express how glad I was to be able to end his mad, selfish pursuits.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Ok. On one hand, you have a child, inexperienced and who has proven that he can act like a baby, like abandoning us to fight the blight because we let Loghian live. What would Duncan say?

On the otherhand, you had Loghain, who is a military genuis and is willing to repent.



For me it was very easy. Help Loghain, screw Alistair. I was really happy that Bioware allowed us to redeem Loghain. Such a great man deserves a chance at redemption.

[jones0901]

im like dregor, i liked loghain alot in the first book, im reading the second and hes not really been in it yet...i wish they had done more with him in the game. his actions dont really seem to square with the character in the book. he wants to protect ferelden, and he fears the grey warden are orlisian proxies, but its a stretch to think he would essentially murder the king and plunge the country into civil war. still, great story, great characters, great game

[Mystranna Kelteel]

He's in the second book. And if you think about what he does you pretty clearly see it leading up to the game.

[Curry Noodles]

I redeemed him too. Actually I wasn't planning on it, I was just going to leave him alive since killing him in a duel after he yields is...ehhh....But then I was really shocked at how Alistair acted, especially considering how his disposition was at 90 or so. A senior grey warden suggested making him a warden, and Alistair didn't even consider it. Just shouted, abandoned his duty, and ran away. Couldn't believe it, so I accepted Loghain.



Then when Riordan had the talk about the sacrifice a little light in my head went on and I thought "Ah, this is why he wanted to recruit Loghain". I wonder if Alistair knew about the sacrifice? I wonder if he would have accepted Loghain if he had known...

[Reiella]

jones0901 wrote...

im like dregor, i liked loghain alot in the first book, im reading the second and hes not really been in it yet...i wish they had done more with him in the game. his actions dont really seem to square with the character in the book. he wants to protect ferelden, and he fears the grey warden are orlisian proxies, but its a stretch to think he would essentially murder the king and plunge the country into civil war. still, great story, great characters, great game

Although his fears aren't too unfounded.  A Warden may have taken the Throne and may have recieved noble land, something that caused something of a problem at Soldier's Peak as I recall .

[Vinditater]

I spared Loghain, married his daughter, became prince-regent, made Loghain a Grey Warden, sacced him to the dragon. In my opinion that was the best revenge. =)

[Curry Noodles]

Too bad you can only marry her if you're a noble. It's like a consolation prize if your romance turns out badly.

[Nintendre]

well i got allistar and Anoura to marry each other. I killed Loghain b/c of what he did to the grey wardens. While I found Allistar to be funny sometimes, most times he was just I found him to be whiney. Especially, when he confronts you AFTER he becomes king. His whole point was he never had any choice in the matter, and what about what he wants. I wish the designer had put lines in for my char to let him know that I never had a choice about any of this. As a Dalish, I ended up having to join the Grey Wardens or die to the taint, no choice in the matter at all. Not to mention that after Ostigar, you troop around the whole world doing things for everyone not b/c you want to but b/c you have to...



Basically, I made him King to teach him a lesson, and maybe keep him from whining all the time.

[JancariusSeiryujinn]

I got them to marry eachother. Interestingly, if you just kill him outright, there's no problem getting that, if you even consider letting him live, Anora and Alistar are so mad at eachother they refuse eachothers hand.

[Cheiron the Centaur]

Actually, there are 9 different outcomes to the Landsmeet... so yes, this is very likely the hardest decision in the game.

[Vicious]

Becoming King and letting Loghain LIVE are the most satisfying choices unless you're an Alistair fan. I was, but I was frankly astonished at how often in the game he disagreed with my choices - without gifts I had extremely high approval from all my companions... except him and Sten.

Then he yaks and yaks about how he doesn't want to be King... okay, so I talk to Anora and she agrees to marry and become King. At the Landsmeet I wipe the floor with Loghain and I decide to show him mercy since I reasoned Howe probably had a lot to do with his actions of late, when before the guy was a revered hero, and with good reason.

Suddenly Alistair wants to be king again so he can force the issue! I was very disappointed with him and when I told Loghain that he cost me Alistair, he said, "Yeah, well you're welcome"


Besides, it's much funner when Loghain says you're going to be his son-in-law and admits he has great respect for you.

A very very interesting character. I killed him a couple times to see different endings/outcomes but I can't bear to do it anymore, he is way cooler and more interesting than Alistair.

Modifié par Vicious, 10 novembre 2009 - 08:42 .

[asaiasai]

I am curious as to what ending one has to choose so that Leilana and I can run off to Orlais, to hell with all of these whinny little dogs. I am running around in circles like an idiot with my foot nailed to the deck because everybody wants to fight over scraps. Hello people there is a blight on all of this insignifigant stuff you are fighting about will be ground to dust if you do not pull your heads out of your butts. You all deserve each other what Leilana wants Leilana gets and we are going to Orlais we are OUTTA HERE!!



lolz

Asai

[5Warlocks]

I want to use Alistair in my next playthrough, since I had him executed and all this time, and I love his character.



But I can't imagine killing Loghain. :X Damn you Bioware.

[Boeresmurf]

u had allistair executed.. how where.. damn i missed something again :S