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[PhantomAlpha1]

Dude, that would be unexpected. In my opinion it would be more interesting if Flemeth would possess morrigan and the Dragon Lady would be trying to avenge her mother. Though we know little about the game, there's a good chance that there won't even be any of the character mentioned in here. Bioware could be saving them for Dragon age 3.

[Tooneyman]

WilliamShatner wrote...

TheGrumpyOne wrote...

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

Morrigan is Flemmeth.  Flemmeth is an idea, a concept, not a specific person.

Flemmeth herself even says that names don't matter much, think of Flemmeth as like a superhero: the same person isn't always going to be that superhero but it doesn't matter who it is when they use the name.

Good theory. That could be possible.

Introducing Morriflem.

Considering this game ends around 10 years after Origins, Morrigan hasn't aged at all well. 


(For the record I don't think that's Morrigan).

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I thought they said ten years during the origins story. This way you see it from a different perspective

Modifié par Tooneyman, 11 juillet 2010 - 04:30 .

[FlyinElk212]

Wait. Are we all assuming that the white-haired girl is the God child? If Dragon Age 2 takes place 10 years into the future, wouldn't that make the God child...9? or close to 10?

That white haired chick looks slightly older.........

Modifié par FlyinElk212, 11 juillet 2010 - 04:33 .

[IronVanguard]

pitchblaq wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

_-Greywolf-_ wrote...
Ok and where in that entire forum topic is there any Dev quotes, Dev confirmations or any article links that have any evidence that even suggests that Dragon Age 2 will be set 10 years after Origins?

It will not. DA2 spans ten years-- that's all we've said so far.

Didn't Game Informer mention that the beginning of Dragon Age 2 takes place during Origins?

As it spans ten years, begins during Origins, and is told in past tense, it's a logical conclusion that 'present time' in DA2 is ten years from the fall of Lothering.

Bar any time skip early on that isn't included in the ten year span, I suppose.

Actually, from all I've heard, while it may let you start in Lothering, nothing states that's when the "10 years of playing" begin. It could have a start in Lothering as you flee, skip ahead, then start those long 10 years....

[Gill Kaiser]

I'm saying that the Dragon Lady is either Flemeth herself or another of Flemeth's daughters. I reckon she'll perform a Kreia-style mentor-role to Hawke.

[Tooneyman]

Heres the real questions about the dragon lady. Can there be SNU SNU! hehe.

Modifié par Tooneyman, 11 juillet 2010 - 05:07 .

[Ponce de Leon]

For me, as far as I guess, DA2 will take place some 30 years after Origins... and after the 10 years of game, the age will possibly end. Series over! Next series? Bronto Age!

[Brockololly]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I'm saying that the Dragon Lady is either Flemeth herself or another of Flemeth's daughters. I reckon she'll perform a Kreia-style mentor-role to Hawke.

Thats what I'm guessing too. Since GI mentions Flemeth is around, she seems a likely candidate given the whole shapeshifting dragon angle, but it could also be another Witch of the Wilds, like Zev hints at in one of his banters with Morrigan.

And I'm definitely picking up a Kreia vibe too...

[Ju13es]

The

Archdemon and flemeth are two different old gods, if flemeth is even an old god.The ritual bounded the soul of the archdemon, not flemeth, to the child

[Tooneyman]

Well lets put it this way. Morrigan stats that Flemeth is if you kill her she will come back. Morrigan then says she will gather enough power later on to help prevent Flemeth from taking over her body. The archdemon goes from soul less vessal to soulless vessal each time you kill it unless your a warden. The archdemon is a old dragon gold and there are still 4 or 3 gods left. Maybe she was one of the old gods who excaped from the underground prison made by the maker and avoided the dark spawn all this time some how hiding in the fade and in the real world, by moving from body to body. Some how she finds another body and assumes direct control! Thus we have Dragon lady. Who maybe we can get our hawke's a little snu-snu with. hehe.

[SOLID_EVEREST]

It can't be Morrigan or the God Child--major spoilers in my post.









Morrigan takes the baby to the Frostback Mountains, or she herself travels to Orlais. They are both very far from the Free Marshes, and the game takes place during and a little after Origins. Morrigan would've had to have aged tremendously.





I think the lady is Flemeth because we kill her, and Morrigan even states that she will be back. Also, Alistair even says that Morrigan looks just like Flemeth--so that lady should probably look like Morrigan, maybe? I just find it too hard to believe that Morrigan could've traveled all the way to the Free Marshes when it says in the epilogue that Morrigan leaves towards Orlais (either Frostback Mountains which is bordering Orlais, or to Orlais itself).

[L33TDAWG]

TheGrumpyOne wrote...

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

Morrigan is Flemmeth.  Flemmeth is an idea, a concept, not a specific person.

Flemmeth herself even says that names don't matter much, think of Flemmeth as like a superhero: the same person isn't always going to be that superhero but it doesn't matter who it is when they use the name.

Good theory. That could be possible.

Introducing Morriflem.

The avatar! born again as anyone!

[thenemesis77]

here is what I think, but it leads to DA3, IMO, Flemeth has Hawke pushed into thinking she is right and to help her find Morrigan and the baby, leads to DA3 where you can pick Hawke or your Warden to battle Hawke, Flemeth vs. Warden, Morrigan...that would be cool.

[Ulicus]

Well, since we've been told that we import decisions from DA:O into DA2... I don't think the Archbaby can ever become a MAJOR feature of the plot. It could only ever really be a side-dish -- so, clearly it doesn't go on to ravage or save the world.

[_-Greywolf-_]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Wait. Are we all assuming that the white-haired girl is the God child? If Dragon Age 2 takes place 10 years into the future, wouldn't that make the God child...9? or close to 10?

That white haired chick looks slightly older.........

I thought this was covered earlier in the thread?

David Gaider wrote...

_-Greywolf-_ wrote...
Ok and where in that entire forum topic is there any Dev quotes, Dev confirmations or any article links that have any evidence that even suggests that Dragon Age 2 will be set 10 years after Origins?

It will not. DA2 spans ten years-- that's all we've said so far.

[fchopin]

Flemeth is not even dead in my game so she may have taken over Morrigan's body.

[Ulicus]

Flemeth is never truly "dead" in any game.

[OriginsIsBest]

Tooneyman wrote...

Well lets put it this way. Morrigan stats that Flemeth is if you kill her she will come back. Morrigan then says she will gather enough power later on to help prevent Flemeth from taking over her body. The archdemon goes from soul less vessal to soulless vessal each time you kill it unless your a warden. The archdemon is a old dragon gold and there are still 4 or 3 gods left. Maybe she was one of the old gods who excaped from the underground prison made by the maker and avoided the dark spawn all this time some how hiding in the fade and in the real world, by moving from body to body. Some how she finds another body and assumes direct control! Thus we have Dragon lady. Who maybe we can get our hawke's a little snu-snu with. hehe.

If Flemeth is an old god, you would of died when you killed her then because you are a warden.

[OriginsIsBest]

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

It can't be Morrigan or the God Child--major spoilers in my post.




Morrigan takes the baby to the Frostback Mountains, or she herself travels to Orlais. They are both very far from the Free Marshes, and the game takes place during and a little after Origins. Morrigan would've had to have aged tremendously.


I think the lady is Flemeth because we kill her, and Morrigan even states that she will be back. Also, Alistair even says that Morrigan looks just like Flemeth--so that lady should probably look like Morrigan, maybe? I just find it too hard to believe that Morrigan could've traveled all the way to the Free Marshes when it says in the epilogue that Morrigan leaves towards Orlais (either Frostback Mountains which is bordering Orlais, or to Orlais itself).

Umm ... it just said she was traveling that way she could of went further for all we know. Plus she would have to take the frost back moutain path ... because I really cant see Morrigan taking a boat can you?

[rooky91]

David Gaider wrote...

_-Greywolf-_ wrote...
Ok and where in that entire forum topic is there any Dev quotes, Dev confirmations or any article links that have any evidence that even suggests that Dragon Age 2 will be set 10 years after Origins?

It will not. DA2 spans ten years-- that's all we've said so far.

You big tease!

This makes me think that Hawke may have ran as a child, but X number of years pass THEN the story starts which THEN spans 10 years.

[Gill Kaiser]

OriginsIsBest wrote...

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

It can't be Morrigan or the God Child--major spoilers in my post.




Morrigan takes the baby to the Frostback Mountains, or she herself travels to Orlais. They are both very far from the Free Marshes, and the game takes place during and a little after Origins. Morrigan would've had to have aged tremendously.


I think the lady is Flemeth because we kill her, and Morrigan even states that she will be back. Also, Alistair even says that Morrigan looks just like Flemeth--so that lady should probably look like Morrigan, maybe? I just find it too hard to believe that Morrigan could've traveled all the way to the Free Marshes when it says in the epilogue that Morrigan leaves towards Orlais (either Frostback Mountains which is bordering Orlais, or to Orlais itself).

Umm ... it just said she was traveling that way she could of went further for all we know. Plus she would have to take the frost back moutain path ... because I really cant see Morrigan taking a boat can you?

She could just shapeshift into a fish and swim, or fly across as a bird.

...and it's the Free Marches, not marshes. Sigh.

Modifié par Gill Kaiser, 11 juillet 2010 - 10:26 .

[thenemesis77]

One thing, it says that at the end of DAO, Morrigan was seen crossing the Frostback Mountains, thats no where near the Free Marches, so I think it's Fleneth or Wayne, not Morrigan, by the way who is going to be shocked if its Morrigan, Flemeth or the godbaby, I don't think any of us would be, I think it has something to do with the Makers lover...if you know who Iam talking about..she is looking for the god baby, you think the Maker wants any kind of rival for power, hell he put down the other gods, what makes you think he won't go for the godbaby, something to think about.

Modifié par thenemesis77, 12 juillet 2010 - 12:45 .

[munananustaja]

Morrigan is an Irish name meaning "great queen". Morrigan shares her name with the goddess of war and death of Irish mythology who often took the form of a crow. The Morrigan of Irish lore appears as both a young and beautiful woman as well as an old and ugly one.





"The Morrigan" is an often manipulative goddess in Irish Mythology. As many of the names in DA:O are taken from ancient Irish names and Morrigan's personality is often spiteful and callous, it is likely she was inspired in some way from this Irish legend.

[SirFlynn]

Stalky24 wrote...

Nah, Flemmeth is dead. Very dead. So dead that even if she reincarnates, she reincarantes as a corpse.

But Morrigan has the Grimmoire, she knows how to perform that spell. So, she will rise her god daughter and then take control over her.

I'm curious as to why everyone seems to think Morrigan child is for sure a girl,yes she might be the woman in the art but nobody knows for sure either.

[Halo Quea]

SirFlynn wrote...

Stalky24 wrote...

Nah, Flemmeth is dead. Very dead. So dead that even if she reincarnates, she reincarantes as a corpse.

But Morrigan has the Grimmoire, she knows how to perform that spell. So, she will rise her god daughter and then take control over her.

I'm curious as to why everyone seems to think Morrigan child is for sure a girl,yes she might be the woman in the art but nobody knows for sure either.

Given the Flemeth tradition, it's most likely a girl.