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[AllThatJazz]

Plus yes, I bet it'll get a name all of its own at some point. Hoping it's not 'Flight of the Hawke', though ...

[David Gaider]

Talonfire wrote...
Planescape: Torment had no relation to Baldur's Gate though, heck BioWare didn't even have anything to do with it aside from the licensing of the engine to Black Isle. I never posted on or even visited the Black Isle boards in the era of the Infinity Engine games, but I doubt that there was that much of an outcry since Torment was Torment and Baldur's Gate was Baldur's Gate.

The fact that it was based on a D&D license was plenty, trust me. I remember the storm caused one day when it was revealed that our fire giants in ToB were not going to have charcoal-black skin LIKE IT CLEARLY DESCRIBED IN THE MONSTER MANUAL OMG.

[Ecael]

David Gaider wrote...

Talonfire wrote...
Planescape: Torment had no relation to Baldur's Gate though, heck BioWare didn't even have anything to do with it aside from the licensing of the engine to Black Isle. I never posted on or even visited the Black Isle boards in the era of the Infinity Engine games, but I doubt that there was that much of an outcry since Torment was Torment and Baldur's Gate was Baldur's Gate.

The fact that it was based on a D&D license was plenty, trust me. I remember the storm caused one day when it was revealed that our fire giants in ToB were not going to have charcoal-black skin LIKE IT CLEARLY DESCRIBED IN THE MONSTER MANUAL OMG.

ALERT: PLOTHOLE DETECTED

Modifié par Ecael, 10 juillet 2010 - 09:45 .

[Tezzajh]

David Gaider wrote...

OriginsIsBest wrote...
Yes YOUR story, this is why most of us dont like the sound of Dragon age 2, and why so many of us are disapointed.

Hate to break it to you, but DAO was a story we wanted to tell, as well.

If you wish to refuse to admit the possibility that the next chapter may draw you in just like the first one did, that's up to you. I guess you will eventually see for yourselves.

so is there a reason as to why you start a new story, when the wardens has not finished as now i dont see how its a sqeual unless it somehow relates to the warden for a possible DA3.

you know halo followed 1 guy and called it 1 2 and 3 then soon as they ditched him they called it ODST and REACH not halo 4 and 5

[Dave of Canada]

Ecael wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Talonfire wrote...
Planescape: Torment had no relation to Baldur's Gate though, heck BioWare didn't even have anything to do with it aside from the licensing of the engine to Black Isle. I never posted on or even visited the Black Isle boards in the era of the Infinity Engine games, but I doubt that there was that much of an outcry since Torment was Torment and Baldur's Gate was Baldur's Gate.

The fact that it was based on a D&D license was plenty, trust me. I remember the storm caused one day when it was revealed that our fire giants in ToB were not going to have charcoal-black skin LIKE IT CLEARLY DESCRIBED IN THE MONSTER MANUAL OMG.

ALERT: PLOTHOLE DETECTED

[female voice] I WILL DESTROY YOU.

[soteria]

so is there a reason as to why you start a new story, when the wardens has not finished as now i dont see how its a sqeual unless it somehow relates to the warden for a possible DA3.



you know halo followed 1 guy and called it 1 2 and 3 then soon as they ditched him they called it ODST and REACH not halo 4 and 5

Further Halo games weren't about Halo anymore. They were still called "Halo: ODST" for title recognition, but after Halo 3 the story of the ring worlds was over. "Dragon Age" is, well, the name of the age, or era. It's still set in the same world, and even in the same timeframe. It should still be called Dragon Age, even if it's not about the same character.

[David Gaider]

Tezzajh wrote...
so is there a reason as to why you start a new story, when the wardens has not finished as now i dont see how its a sqeual unless it somehow relates to the warden for a possible DA3.

you know halo followed 1 guy and called it 1 2 and 3 then soon as they ditched him they called it ODST and REACH not halo 4 and 5

The Warden's story is not part of DA2.

Dragon Age is not about the Warden-- it's about Thedas, and the period of time within it called the Dragon Age.

I guess we could drag the Warden into new stories even without a Blight to combat-- I could certainly think of things such a hero could do, even at such a high level-- but I also like the idea of visiting different stories, told through different heroes, rather than revisiting the same well over and over or trying to contrive a way to squeeze the Warden into places he/she doesn't belong.

If you disagree, then I'm sorry to disappoint. I hope you'll find something about DA2 to love, and that you'll take ownership of Hawke the same way you did with your Warden. Just because you liked one of our characters that much, after all, doesn't mean it couldn't ever never ever happen again, does it?

Modifié par David Gaider, 10 juillet 2010 - 09:52 .

[javierabegazo]

And it's NOT called "DAO 2"



It's called DA2.

[LPPrince]

David Gaider wrote...

Tezzajh wrote...
so is there a reason as to why you start a new story, when the wardens has not finished as now i dont see how its a sqeual unless it somehow relates to the warden for a possible DA3.

you know halo followed 1 guy and called it 1 2 and 3 then soon as they ditched him they called it ODST and REACH not halo 4 and 5

The Warden's story is not part of DA2.

Dragon Age is not about the Warden-- it's about Thedas, and the period of time within it called the Dragon Age.

I guess we could drag the Warden into new stories even without a Blight to combat-- I could certainly think of things such a hero could do, even at such a high level-- but I also like the idea of visiting different stories, told through different heroes, rather than revisiting the same well over and over or trying to contrive a way to squeeze the Warden into places he/she doesn't belong.

If you disagree, then I'm sorry to disappoint. I hope you'll find something about DA2 to love, and that you'll take ownership of Hawke the same way you did with your Warden. Just because you liked one of our characters that much, after all, doesn't mean it couldn't ever never ever happen again, does it?

Another post that pretty much settles it. Jesus you're good at this.

[Dave of Canada]

David Gaider wrote...

Tezzajh wrote...
so is there a reason as to why you start a new story, when the wardens has not finished as now i dont see how its a sqeual unless it somehow relates to the warden for a possible DA3.

you know halo followed 1 guy and called it 1 2 and 3 then soon as they ditched him they called it ODST and REACH not halo 4 and 5

The Warden's story is not part of DA2.

Dragon Age is not about the Warden-- it's about Thedas, and the period of time within it called the Dragon Age.

I guess we could drag the Warden into new stories even without a Blight to combat-- I could certainly think of things such a hero could do, even at such a high level-- but I also like the idea of visiting different stories, told through different heroes, rather than revisiting the same well over and over or trying to contrive a way to squeeze the Warden into places he/she doesn't belong.

If you disagree, then I'm sorry to disappoint. I hope you'll find something about DA2 to love, and that you'll take ownership of Hawke the same way you did with your Warden. Just because you liked one of our characters that much, after all, doesn't mean it couldn't ever never ever happen again, does it?

Will there be closure for the Warden's tale before DA2 launches or is Awakening the ending of his / her tale, even though the epilogue suggests otherwise?

[javierabegazo]

Offtopic:

Thanks for taking so much time on the forums Mr. Gaider, despite what anyone can say here, a game forum where the lead writer regularly converses with it's forum members is far and few and inbetween.

[AlexXIV]

javierabegazo wrote...

And it's NOT called "DAO 2"

It's called DA2.

Where is DA1 then?

[LPPrince]

AlexXIV wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

And it's NOT called "DAO 2"

It's called DA2.

Where is DA1 then?

DA1 is DAO.

It was called, "Dragon Age:Origins", not "Dragon Age Origins", and that makes the whole world of difference.

Dragon Age is the series. Origins just referred to the first game.

So DA2 really is DA2. There is no DAO2, as some would love to believe.

Modifié par LPPrince, 10 juillet 2010 - 09:59 .

[Master Shiori]

David Gaider wrote...

Tezzajh wrote...
so is there a reason as to why you start a new story, when the wardens has not finished as now i dont see how its a sqeual unless it somehow relates to the warden for a possible DA3.

you know halo followed 1 guy and called it 1 2 and 3 then soon as they ditched him they called it ODST and REACH not halo 4 and 5

The Warden's story is not part of DA2.

Dragon Age is not about the Warden-- it's about Thedas, and the period of time within it called the Dragon Age.

I guess we could drag the Warden into new stories even without a Blight to combat-- I could certainly think of things such a hero could do, even at such a high level-- but I also like the idea of visiting different stories, told through different heroes, rather than revisiting the same well over and over or trying to contrive a way to squeeze the Warden into places he/she doesn't belong.

If you disagree, then I'm sorry to disappoint. I hope you'll find something about DA2 to love, and that you'll take ownership of Hawke the same way you did with your Warden. Just because you liked one of our characters that much, after all, doesn't mean it couldn't ever never ever happen again, does it?

Well, do you consider Warden's story to be over with DA:O or do you think he could be back in future DA titles provided it makes sense storywise?

[David Gaider]

Dave of Canada wrote...
Will there be closure for the Warden's tale before DA2 launches or is Awakening the ending of his / her tale, even though the epilogue suggests otherwise?

I can't comment on unannounced projects-- and that's not to imply the existence of anything, just that I can't say one way or the other.

I will only say that some plots remain to be resolved, though they may not be resolved in the manner you'd expect. If you're expecting everything to be wrapped up neatly, however, that may not be in the works. Sometimes heroes really do just walk off into the sunset into unknown adventures. Whether you'll see the Warden again, however, remains to be seen.

[Dave of Canada]

David Gaider wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
Will there be closure for the Warden's tale before DA2 launches or is Awakening the ending of his / her tale, even though the epilogue suggests otherwise?

I can't comment on unannounced projects-- and that's not to imply the existence of anything, just that I can't say one way or the other.

I will only say that some plots remain to be resolved, though they may not be resolved in the manner you'd expect. If you're expecting everything to be wrapped up neatly, however, that may not be in the works. Sometimes heroes really do just walk off into the sunset into unknown adventures. Whether you'll see the Warden again, however, remains to be seen.

I see, thank you for the answer.

[LPPrince]

David Gaider wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
Will there be closure for the Warden's tale before DA2 launches or is Awakening the ending of his / her tale, even though the epilogue suggests otherwise?

I can't comment on unannounced projects-- and that's not to imply the existence of anything, just that I can't say one way or the other.

I will only say that some plots remain to be resolved, though they may not be resolved in the manner you'd expect. If you're expecting everything to be wrapped up neatly, however, that may not be in the works. Sometimes heroes really do just walk off into the sunset into unknown adventures. Whether you'll see the Warden again, however, remains to be seen.

Whatever happened to those stories where the hero walked off and people were able to decide for themselves what happened?

Nowadays, everybody wants a definite ending.

[DraCZeQQ]

Talonfire wrote...
Planescape: Torment had no relation to Baldur's Gate

so AD&D, Infinity engine, Black Isle studios (worked both on PST and BG), same "universe" ... but sure no relation at all ... (just a foot note)

[Tezzajh]

well i guess the voice is something I'd look forward 2 as i was asking for it, and agree with you about warden being in places he shouldnt.



you dont happen to know if they included cloaks/capes in this game do you ?



and having a fixed amount of income would be good something like they did in fable and assaisns creed 2, cash every 5 and 20mins from shops

[Dave of Canada]

LPPrince wrote...

Whatever happened to those stories where the hero walked off and people were able to decide for themselves what happened?

Nowadays, everybody wants a definite ending.

I can live with that sort of ending, I was just wondering if the Warden's journey was concluded or not.

[Brockololly]

LPPrince wrote...

Whatever happened to those stories where the hero walked off and people were able to decide for themselves what happened?

Nowadays, everybody wants a definite ending.

But the Warden doesn't just walk off into the sunset- they all mysteriously jump off their couch one day post Awakening and mysteriously run away into Deep Space with Revan, seemingly never to be heard from again.

The US Wardens get a clear ending- why not the DR Wardens?

[AlexXIV]

DraCZeQQ wrote...

Talonfire wrote...
Planescape: Torment had no relation to Baldur's Gate

so AD&D, Infinity engine, Black Isle studios (worked both on PST and BG), same "universe" ... but sure no relation at all ... (just a foot note)

And most importantly, I liked them both very much.

[LPPrince]

Brockololly wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Whatever happened to those stories where the hero walked off and people were able to decide for themselves what happened?

Nowadays, everybody wants a definite ending.

But the Warden doesn't just walk off into the sunset- they all mysteriously jump off their couch one day post Awakening and mysteriously run away into Deep Space with Revan, seemingly never to be heard from again.

The US Wardens get a clear ending- why not the DR Wardens?

The DR Wardens went off to find Morrigan. Whether they find her or not is up to you to decide.

Well, thats if you romanced her. Really, its up to the player.

Modifié par LPPrince, 10 juillet 2010 - 10:06 .

[Master Shiori]

LPPrince wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...
Will there be closure for the Warden's tale before DA2 launches or is Awakening the ending of his / her tale, even though the epilogue suggests otherwise?

I can't comment on unannounced projects-- and that's not to imply the existence of anything, just that I can't say one way or the other.

I will only say that some plots remain to be resolved, though they may not be resolved in the manner you'd expect. If you're expecting everything to be wrapped up neatly, however, that may not be in the works. Sometimes heroes really do just walk off into the sunset into unknown adventures. Whether you'll see the Warden again, however, remains to be seen.

Whatever happened to those stories where the hero walked off and people were able to decide for themselves what happened?

Nowadays, everybody wants a definite ending.

The thing is in those stories the hero walks off after everything has been resolved. In DA:O:A the Warden goes off while there are still unresolved plot threads.

Therefore it's natural for people to expect to see him again. Doesn't mean it's bound to happen however.

[Sable Rhapsody]

LPPrince wrote...
Whatever happened to those stories where the hero walked off and people were able to decide for themselves what happened?

Nowadays, everybody wants a definite ending.

Even if it's not a very happy one 

I agree, I liked the way the BG series ended, regardless of your final choice.  The implication was "And then you went off and had more awesome adventures YAY FOR YOU."  Unless you downloaded a romance mod that shackled you to an LI and his/her frillions of kids and tremendously detailed epilogue   I kinda liked having a walk off into the sunset ending.