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[LPPrince]

People should accept a non-positive "walk off into the sunset" ending.



Its different. I like leaving the Warden's story on "I'll find you Morrigan" and keeping the ring.

[DraCZeQQ]

AlexXIV wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

Talonfire wrote...
Planescape: Torment had no relation to Baldur's Gate

so AD&D, Infinity engine, Black Isle studios (worked both on PST and BG), same "universe" ... but sure no relation at all ... (just a foot note)

And most importantly, I liked them both very much.

exactly my point :-)

[Master Shiori]

LPPrince wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Whatever happened to those stories where the hero walked off and people were able to decide for themselves what happened?

Nowadays, everybody wants a definite ending.

But the Warden doesn't just walk off into the sunset- they all mysteriously jump off their couch one day post Awakening and mysteriously run away into Deep Space with Revan, seemingly never to be heard from again.

The US Wardens get a clear ending- why not the DR Wardens?

The DR Wardens went off to find Morrigan. Whether they find her or not is up to you to decide.

Well, thats if you romanced her. Really, its up to the player.

Well, here's the situation for you:

Imagine it's your Warden that romanced Morrigan and went off to find her at the end of Awakening. Now, in some future DA title you actually see Morrigan again but your Warden isn't around for whatever reason. Wouldn't you find that frustrating?

Not to say you couldn't have Morrigan back without the Warden himself, but when people go off after her they expect to see something come out of that decision.

[DraCZeQQ]

LPPrince wrote...

People should accept a non-positive "walk off into the sunset" ending.

Its different. I like leaving the Warden's story on "I'll find you Morrigan" and keeping the ring.

and i like leaving the story with "I will rule the Ferelden as a Queen" :-) no idea what more closure people want ...

[kyles3]

looks like it would have saved everyone a lot of headaches if DAO just made you kill yourself at the end.

[Quinnzel]

David Gaider wrote...

I will only say that some plots remain to be resolved, though they may not be resolved in the manner you'd expect. If you're expecting everything to be wrapped up neatly, however, that may not be in the works. Sometimes heroes really do just walk off into the sunset into unknown adventures. Whether you'll see the Warden again, however, remains to be seen.

Unknown adventures? *insert OTT fan drivel * OH GOD THEY'RE PULLING A REVAN!   The Warden will go off and find the True Sith and teach them the ways of manly beards and midiclorians!

Will Hawke have a nice selection of truly epic beards? And will you finally be giving me the option of giving a LadyHawke a nice big handlebar moustache?

EDIT: Damn, somone made the Revan joke before me! Oh well, despite what Mr Gaider has said, I will still hope for some sort of Morrigan X BeardWarden happy ever after ending.

Modifié par Quinnzel, 10 juillet 2010 - 10:17 .

[AllThatJazz]

I love vague endings. Revan and the Exile? In my head, playing merry hell with the True Sith. Somewhere. Nameless One? Probably completely f***ed, actually, but you never know, and that's why they're so great. Grey Warden? Still Queen. Their endings can be anything you want. Lovely.

[Dave of Canada]

Master Shiori wrote...

Well, here's the situation for you:

Imagine it's your Warden that romanced Morrigan and went off to find her at the end of Awakening. Now, in some future DA title you actually see Morrigan again but your Warden isn't around for whatever reason. Wouldn't you find that frustrating?

Not to say you couldn't have Morrigan back without the Warden himself, but when people go off after her they expect to see something come out of that decision.

Considering how big Thedas is and how you don't know where Morrigan left, it could just be possible that Morrigan left to say.. north to the Free Marches while the Warden went south.

[LPPrince]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Well, here's the situation for you:

Imagine it's your Warden that romanced Morrigan and went off to find her at the end of Awakening. Now, in some future DA title you actually see Morrigan again but your Warden isn't around for whatever reason. Wouldn't you find that frustrating?

Not to say you couldn't have Morrigan back without the Warden himself, but when people go off after her they expect to see something come out of that decision.

Considering how big Thedas is and how you don't know where Morrigan left, it could just be possible that Morrigan left to say.. north to the Free Marches while the Warden went south.

Exactly. Matter of fact, isn't it confirmed she went north?

Our Wardens aren't that lucky. The rings don't have tracking devices on them.

[Brockololly]

Master Shiori wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Whatever happened to those stories where the hero walked off and people were able to decide for themselves what happened?

Nowadays, everybody wants a definite ending.

But the Warden doesn't just walk off into the sunset- they all mysteriously jump off their couch one day post Awakening and mysteriously run away into Deep Space with Revan, seemingly never to be heard from again.

The US Wardens get a clear ending- why not the DR Wardens?

The DR Wardens went off to find Morrigan. Whether they find her or not is up to you to decide.

Well, thats if you romanced her. Really, its up to the player.

Well, here's the situation for you:

Imagine it's your Warden that romanced Morrigan and went off to find her at the end of Awakening. Now, in some future DA title you actually see Morrigan again but your Warden isn't around for whatever reason. Wouldn't you find that frustrating?

Not to say you couldn't have Morrigan back without the Warden himself, but when people go off after her they expect to see something come out of that decision.

Bingo, Shiori.

BioWare has made it fairly clear that in one way or another Morrigan still has a role to play in Dragon Age. The whole DR ending in my view does 2 huge things- it creates the OGB but also keeps the Warden ALIVE. What is the point of keeping the Warden alive if all we ever see or hear of him/her again is to just disappear?

No doubt BioWare can do what they want with the characters going forward. But it would really irritate me and no doubt many others, if the Warden who romanced Morrigan is written off as endlessly searching for her with no resolution. Especially when Morrigan no doubt pops up somewhere else in the DA timeline. Thats just frustrating and writer borne cruelty:(

[Brockololly]

LPPrince wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Well, here's the situation for you:

Imagine it's your Warden that romanced Morrigan and went off to find her at the end of Awakening. Now, in some future DA title you actually see Morrigan again but your Warden isn't around for whatever reason. Wouldn't you find that frustrating?

Not to say you couldn't have Morrigan back without the Warden himself, but when people go off after her they expect to see something come out of that decision.

Considering how big Thedas is and how you don't know where Morrigan left, it could just be possible that Morrigan left to say.. north to the Free Marches while the Warden went south.

Exactly. Matter of fact, isn't it confirmed she went north?

Our Wardens aren't that lucky. The rings don't have tracking devices on them.

In all endings, Morrigan went west over the Frostbacks towards Orlais, actually.

[KendallX23]

David Gaider wrote...

Tezzajh wrote...
so is there a reason as to why you start a new story, when the wardens has not finished as now i dont see how its a sqeual unless it somehow relates to the warden for a possible DA3.

you know halo followed 1 guy and called it 1 2 and 3 then soon as they ditched him they called it ODST and REACH not halo 4 and 5

The Warden's story is not part of DA2.

Dragon Age is not about the Warden-- it's about Thedas, and the period of time within it called the Dragon Age.

I guess we could drag the Warden into new stories even without a Blight to combat-- I could certainly think of things such a hero could do, even at such a high level-- but I also like the idea of visiting different stories, told through different heroes, rather than revisiting the same well over and over or trying to contrive a way to squeeze the Warden into places he/she doesn't belong.

If you disagree, then I'm sorry to disappoint. I hope you'll find something about DA2 to love, and that you'll take ownership of Hawke the same way you did with your Warden. Just because you liked one of our characters that much, after all, doesn't mean it couldn't ever never ever happen again, does it?

well i like my stories to have a set ending...not an unknown one...but actually i want to see more of the companions...i know Morrigan will appear somwhere in the future...but the others ?i usually get attached of companions.....they should still be alive in this decade u tell the story of  Hawkman....i like to know what happened to them...
       in other news...i know i will buy the game...even with litlle info as we have now...i like the idea of shaping our hero the way we want him

[Quinnzel]

LPPrince wrote...

Exactly. Matter of fact, isn't it confirmed she went north?

Our Wardens aren't that lucky. The rings don't have tracking devices on them.

Morrigan does mention that Flemmeth said there is indeed a two way connection, just that Morrigan never had a chance to test it out.

[LPPrince]

Brockololly wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Well, here's the situation for you:

Imagine it's your Warden that romanced Morrigan and went off to find her at the end of Awakening. Now, in some future DA title you actually see Morrigan again but your Warden isn't around for whatever reason. Wouldn't you find that frustrating?

Not to say you couldn't have Morrigan back without the Warden himself, but when people go off after her they expect to see something come out of that decision.

Considering how big Thedas is and how you don't know where Morrigan left, it could just be possible that Morrigan left to say.. north to the Free Marches while the Warden went south.

Exactly. Matter of fact, isn't it confirmed she went north?

Our Wardens aren't that lucky. The rings don't have tracking devices on them.

In all endings, Morrigan went west over the Frostbacks towards Orlais, actually.

Whoops. Wrong direction then. Still, no guarantee the Warden would know where to go find her. It'd have to be happenstance.

[syllogi]

DraCZeQQ wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

People should accept a non-positive "walk off into the sunset" ending.

Its different. I like leaving the Warden's story on "I'll find you Morrigan" and keeping the ring.

and i like leaving the story with "I will rule the Ferelden as a Queen" :-) no idea what more closure people want ...

SPOILERS FOR AWAKENING




Except if you finish Awakening as a HFN who was queen, your character inexplicably leaves one day in the future, never to be seen again, according to the end slides.  Even if my character is experiencing the Calling and goes to the Deep Roads, I would rather know that that's what happened, than be told that my character just leaves Alistair with no explanation.  Very unsatisfying for someone attached to their character (and Alistair). 

[Master Shiori]

Epilogue clearly said she went west, across Frostback Mountains, into Orlais.



Therefore I wouldn't expect, come DA2, for her to appear in the Free Marches.



However, I believe we might see her again at some point, since that's been hinted a few times. I just don't expect, base on what David wrote here, that we'll ever see Morrigan reunited with the Warden.

[DraCZeQQ]

so if i get you guys right about "finishing" the story ... they should make like 10 different games ...

one where you just rule with alistair ... so some kind of sim-kingdom

one where you go looking for Morrigan ... so some kind of travel simulator

one where you are paragon to dwarves, or boss of alienage ... again i bet it would be cool game ...

and ofc we cant forget one game where you are DEAD the entire time ... sounds awesome

[Fishy]

David Gaider wrote...

Paromlin wrote...
Yeah, yeah, I know it's Bioware's new interactive mov.., I mean, game. And I chose not to like it.

As you wish. We're under no illusions that everyone is going to like our decisions.

I'd suggest waiting to learn more before you make sweeping pronouncements, however. Slinking back into a room after you've made a dramatic exit and slammed the door behind you can be pretty awkward.

Actually i'm pretty happy with having a surname .. It's felt a bit weird to be always called (The Warden or The Boss)
I'm also happy with my character being voiced . I have no idea how the DA team will work it out but i'm sure it's will be different than Mass effect.

And finnaly .. Please those hat .. do something about it.

[Tezzajh]

well people we still have a long time of dlc left and a possible expantion in feb so maybe that will wrap things up with the warden

[LPPrince]

I remember a dev saying a long time ago that Morrigan's story wasn't over.



Take that with a grain of sugar(HAR HAR, C WUT I DEED THAR).

[David Gaider]

Suprez30 wrote...
And finnaly .. Please those hat .. do something about it.

From your lips to God's ears, my friend.

[SDNcN]

Master Shiori wrote...

Epilogue clearly said she went west, across Frostback Mountains, into Orlais.

Therefore I wouldn't expect, come DA2, for her to appear in the Free Marches.

However, I believe we might see her again at some point, since that's been hinted a few times. I just don't expect, base on what David wrote here, that we'll ever see Morrigan reunited with the Warden.

Well you would have to travel through Orlais to reach other countries unless you travel by sea.

She could probably pop up wherever.

[Talonfire]

DraCZeQQ wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

People should accept a non-positive "walk off into the sunset" ending.

Its different. I like leaving the Warden's story on "I'll find you Morrigan" and keeping the ring.

and i like leaving the story with "I will rule the Ferelden as a Queen" :-) no idea what more closure people want ...

Well the Warden sort of up and leaves in all of the Awakening epilogues including those where he or she is King or Queen, so there's not much closure there. As I said in another thread I doubt we've heard the last of the Warden, but if I'm wrong and we have it's probably because the writers want us to come up with our own conclusions to their story.

Modifié par Talonfire, 10 juillet 2010 - 10:29 .

[Gill Kaiser]

David Gaider wrote...

Suprez30 wrote...
And finnaly .. Please those hat .. do something about it.

From your lips to God's ears, my friend.

I don't even know what this means, but I am totally on board.

[Gill Kaiser]

Talonfire wrote...

DraCZeQQ wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

People should accept a non-positive "walk off into the sunset" ending.

Its different. I like leaving the Warden's story on "I'll find you Morrigan" and keeping the ring.

and i like leaving the story with "I will rule the Ferelden as a Queen" :-) no idea what more closure people want ...

Well the Warden sort of up and leaves in all of the Awakening epilogues including those where he or she is King or Queen, so there's not much closure there. As I said in another thread I doubt we've heard the last of the Warden, but if we have it's probably because the writers want us to come up with our own conclusions to their story.

That's kind of your own fault for importing into Awakening and ruining your character's ending.