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Do Bioware listen to its fans?


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#1
Samb84

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I was just wondering, there is a lot of whining going on right now since they released a little info about DA2 but is there a chance they will listen? 

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Mary Kirby

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LPPrince wrote...

Javi hits it again.

Hell, when I spoke to Patrick Weekes, I referred to him as "Mr. Weekes" many times.

Speaking of which, where is he anyway?


I'm pretty sure the Mass Effect team keeps Patrick in a hermetically sealed container somewhere in the labyrinth of their offices downstairs, so that only the most stalwart heroes make it through to distract him from writing things which are awesome.

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David Gaider

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_-Greywolf-_ wrote...
I think the game is too far into development to be changed now, however even if they could change things they would have to believe that the fans ideas are better than their own.

I think it'd be a rare thing for an idea to come from a single fan. That'd have to be a "lightning strike" of an idea-- sort of "oh wow, why didn't we think of that before?" I can think of perhaps two times in my career that this has happened.

Other ideas tend to develop as a consensus. More of "there seems to be a lot of people on the forums who think X would be a good idea" followed by "maybe we could do something like that? What do you think?" and we proceed from there. It's happened more than once.

The thing to keep in mind is that these forums are a conversation-- one you're having with each other as well as, occasionally, with someone from the dev team (whether they're actively participating or not). If you treat them like a conversation you'd have in real life, try to listen as well as talk, instead of treating them like a personal order form or a soap box then you might have a chance of actually convincing someone to think your way.

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David Gaider

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...
You might be basing your assessment of negative off of the forums and the wiki, which is fine.  But more broadly, on sites like Kotaku and Escapist and the rest of the gaming community, there's decidedly less backlash going on.  Not everyone who plays BioWare games frequents these forums--the majority as a matter of fact do not, and just buy the game when it comes out and play it.


This is a fair assessment. The number of people that would play a game and then head to that game's online forums is decidedly small-- never mind the people that would thereafter continue to hang out on those forums months and months after the game's release. Certainly they have their opinions and the things that they want, but that should come with the realization that these are the game's most committed fans.

Is that a bad thing? Of course not. Who doesn't want fans? Besides the idea that they might be evangelists, they're also an excellent source of feedback. But I call it the "fishbowl effect" when people come here and start to get the perception that the fans here are all there is, that everyone feels the same way they do despite the fact that millions of people bought the game and they all couldn't possibly be here (or even a small percentage of them). That's simply the way it is.

And besides, BioWare know the games industry, and its patterns of inevitable Internet backlash.


"Backlash" is a polite way of saying "wankage". :)

It happens. People are passionate about the game; that's always a good thing. People talking about things they're passionate about can never be completely wrong-- and at the end of the day it'll be up to them to decide whether or not they buy into what we're selling (literally or otherwise). That's their power.

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David Gaider

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thenemesis77 wrote...
I will be the first of us that want to keep our Warden to say Iam sorry, really iam. I just know for a fact that David, made the best story for a game to ever be told and you did one hell of a job, I hope they have you a raise for that. I have lashed out as many othere have and again I'am sorry for that. I was taken on such a ride with DAO, unlike anything I have had, either in a book or a game and I didn't want it to end. I wanted to see my Warden save Morrigan and the child, for how ever that sound corney or not. I really want somekind of end for him and with DAA, I felt like he left but was not done and his story was not done. I know David has great storys and I will not lie, I bet he has a great one for DA2 and I have no dought it will do well. Many of you have seen me vent out on the boards and I thank the mods for putting up with it and I would like to say Iam sorry to them too. You just never want to see a good story with characters you love end and it is sad to me, like any book, I have grown to love them. I hope we can all take a few steps back and see what David has for us, I know I have not even given the man a chance and Iam sorry David, really Iam.


You don't need to be sorry, Nemesis. I know when people lash out about a game it's because they feel a lot of ownership-- and that's quite a compliment, thank you. I truly hope you do enjoy what we have in store for you.

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David Gaider

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thenemesis77 wrote...
Thanks, David, you have never let me down I know. I know you might and can't speak of it this time around, is there any kind of DLC for our current Warnde or was DAA his final hour? I understand if you can't talk about it. I love your way of telling the story and I have faith, just am a fan boy of my warden and the morrigan story.

If any such project existed, I couldn't talk about it-- and would have to give you an unsatisfying non-answer that would only hurt you.

Why do you make me hurt you? ;)

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Mike Laidlaw

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In many cases, we're simply in a position where we cannot discuss certain points due to the way we're handling the release, or in order to be respectful of people like Game Informer who vary graciously gave us an opportunity to appear on their cover, even when other titles were certainly hoping to fill the post-E3 wrap up issue cover spot.



We do listen, and are, in fact, listening right now, but as someone you'll meet very soon is fond of saying, "You need to hear the whole story." We know what we're working on, and I firmly believe that the end product will not disappoint.



You may disagree with a few decisions, and that's fair, it's your right as consumers, fans and avid RPG players. So long as the discussion is civil, we're happy to have it with you....once we can dive in in detail and discuss it in context, because we all know that platitudes and teases are only fun in limited doses, if at all. You guys are too plugged-in for that, and we're going to try and get you more updates as time goes by. That's a big part of Victor's role, for instance.



For now, I will simply beg your patience, and enjoy the speculation that I'm starting to see about the characters (returning and new), story, and just what changes we made to combat. Always interesting to see what guesses folks make this early on. Some of them are even right on, but I'm not saying which, of course.



Mike..