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Should the Council be put on trial in ME3?


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To me, what would be preferable is that the Council is expanded into a Citadel Parliament, in which all races get an equal say on galactic events and decisions and where they is no longer a gross imbalance of power.

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Also, I'm thinking that perhaps a Secretary-General could be elected to lead the Citadel Parliament, similar to the United Nations. This position would be rotated amongst the species, of course, and no individual species will ever hold the office for two successive terms.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

To me, what would be preferable is that the Council is expanded into a Citadel Parliament, in which all races get an equal say on galactic events and decisions and where they is no longer a gross imbalance of power.


That's like Utopia 

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mashavasilec wrote...
That's like Utopia 


It's preferable to the system the asari, salarians and turians currently employ.

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I like the system in place (with multispecies council)... it gives the idea that it is fair and yet a little corrupt. No system is perfect and it shows that.

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@LesEnfantsTerribles Well, that's just a bit too optimistic. One of the races will always be on top

Modifié par mashavasilec, 11 juillet 2010 - 06:41 .


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With everyone having a say, the larger the government grows as more species join the Council, the more likely the red tape hinders development as each species brings their unique interpretation of law and work to further the goals of their own kind over others. But the Council system as it is now is just as hindering. You could say that's the nature of government.

You could say that each civilization should have the right to develop in their own way with only the Council interfering when development paths interfere with each other. You get your alliances and factions, though.

Protheans must have had it easy if they really were the only spacefaring race of their time.

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Maybe my starry eyed idealism gets the better of me sometimes. ;-)



I understand the concerns, but I do think that the possibility of a Citadel Parliament is very plausible.

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I'm sure it will be included in some form in a very Paragon ending

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Why Volus didn't joined Council.
They did give new economic system with credits.
Oh yeah they can't fight for themself so they can't join Council, well f*ck Council!

Also what's with this BS that you have to wait for decades to have embassy and centuries join Council?
I mean imagine if NATO or UN working like that!

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The volus are a client race of the turians, they are not independent.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

mashavasilec wrote...
That's like Utopia 


It's preferable to the system the asari, salarians and turians currently employ.


Old Republic did have huge Senate and how she end we all known...<_<.

However there is solution for this problem.

There should be two sided Citadel "goverment".

One strict political whit equal for everyone right to vote like in Senate and Security Council keeping under control all military aspects.


I am not sure if anyone who plays ME 1 noticed that information about Virmire location we recived WITHOUT knowledge of Turian Councilor...

I watched pretty closely on that part of the game and i am absolute sure that "Ah Yes..." Councilor was not present during that transmision.

Question is why both Councilors decide to bypas thier Turian counterpart to give us that info?

Too bad that Mr Walters decided to dumbed them down (according to his own words from one of th interviews) for sake of Cerberus "fame and glory as single galaxy saviors<_<" in ME 2 instead pursit path prepared for Drew Karpyshyn at the end of ME 1 (paragon end whit saved DA).

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lovgreno wrote...

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My Shepard was never a jerk or a smartass to the Council.

And their error is that they place public opinion over public defense.

Neither was mine actualy, clumsily of me to write before I thought. My misstake.

If it's against public opinion there is not much a ruler can do. These are not the dictators of the galaxy, without support from other powerfull organisations they are rather powerless. If they would warn about a reaper threat now the media would laugh at them and the military and finance would withdraw their support for creating panic without providing proof. They would be replaced with councilours that doesn't have reapers on their agenda at all wich would only make it worse. At the moment the Council have nothing to gain and everything to lose by supporting Shepards reaper theories.


They could mobilize the galaxy and build their fleets with the excuse of an impending geth attack.

There are lots of things they could do. They're smart people. They choose not to do it.

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He is there... you just have to use the renegade option when you speak to the council.

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Barquiel wrote...

The volus are a client race of the turians, they are not independent.


They are independent, they just have military agreement for protection.
And Volus have army.

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I just want the option to beat the hell out of that one turian. The politicians can handle the rest. I want a promotion however.

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Renegade JIMP: "Emperor Shepard" has a nice ring to it.

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NephilimNexus wrote...

Renegade JIMP: "Emperor Shepard" has a nice ring to it.


Thats an interesting thought, I mean if enough team mates survived he would have some one to represent most of the races in the game in his court.

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Can you put someone on trial for stupidity without malice? I´m remembering Fenthick in NWN. I really missed telling them that Shepard being wrong is not a risk they can take. In both games.

Asheer, AFAIK we don´t know what Drew had planned. Cerberus was significant in the second book which was out well before ME2 was out. When did he exactly move to TOR by the way? Making the Council that stupid is jarring though, even being politicians. If you take Legion I can´t say whether they are so scared they are in denial, lying to Shepard, or even indoctrinated (just half of Sovereign remains? And the core?)


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I'm massively in favour of any sort of trial scene in ME3, though most likely it'd be Shepard on trial if anything! Loved the trial bit in NWN2.



Tali's hearing doesn't count, it was mostly blah and over way too quickly.

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I don't see a good reason for them to be put on trial because their really was no evidence of any Reapers. If their was definitely evidence then yeah they would've done something. Just like the Saren hearing. And aren't the Quarians in the Terminus Systems which is out of the Council's jurisdiction? However when they do see that the Reapers exist then I want them to definitely to admit that their wrong and apologize to Shep, Anderson and the crew. ESPECIALLY THAT ONE TURIAN COUNCILOR. CAN'T STAND THAT GUY!

Modifié par ShadowJ20, 16 juillet 2010 - 02:34 .


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Anderson: RAMIREZ! YOU BE THE JUDGE, JURY AND EXECUTOR!

Ramirez: Gladly sir.

Shepard: Oh come on Anderson I wanted...

Anderson: RAMIREZ! SAY SHEPARD TO SHUT UP IF HE DOESN'T WANT TO END UP LIKE GENERAL SHEPARD!

Ramirez: Shepard shu...

Shepard: I HEARD HIM!

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Screw the trial. Next chance I get I'll kill the council myself. Hopefully in ME3 will have a chance to kill them personally. I wouldn't mind putting the Illusive Man on the new council. He won't be tied down by politics.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

To me, what would be preferable is that the Council is expanded into a Citadel Parliament, in which all races get an equal say on galactic events and decisions and where they is no longer a gross imbalance of power.


I like this idea. I would much rather see Council evolve at the end of ME3  to the point where each speices has a member on the Council instead of watching a single Human, a Turian, a Salarian and an Asari make decissions that affect the whole entire Universe, 4 people should not be alowed to hold that much power especially over other spieces that have nooone to represent thier interests.

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We actually don't know whether they deny the existence of the Reapers or not. Does anyone seriously think the Council would share their intel with Shepard, a dude who's working with a terrorist group?