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[SithLordExarKun]

Man srsly the whiners need to :  

Modifié par SithLordExarKun, 12 juillet 2010 - 03:27 .

[Drasanil]

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Man srsly the whiners need to :

Considering you're whining about whiners maybe you need to:



'cause y'know that makes you a whiner too.

Modifié par Drasanil, 12 juillet 2010 - 03:31 .

[KLUME777]

Suron wrote...

MartinJHolm wrote...

Stop with the mindless "whining" accusations.

People have a right to voice their concerns, many of us oldtimers like fantasy games and since Bioware made a big deal about DA was the spiritual successor of BG I would say it makes sense to complain about being stuck as one character.

Also I see most of the people not wanting people to "whine" are people that have ME, so they obviously would like something like this one-dimensional garbage.

small correction..you mean ME2...

ME1 was a great start...but instead of FIXING what didn't quite work and/or was clumsy/clunky and EXPANDING on it...they STRIPPED it out entirely (and as a side note I find it hilarious the "defenders" claim it's "streamlining"...idiotic)...turning the ME series into Gears of Mass Effect War: Choose your own Shepard Adventure.

but otherwise...yep..this exactly...

because even with what little we DO know..it certainly is aweful similar to when ME2's "enhancements" were being released....

No, he means Mass Effect, the whole series. Think what you will, mass effect 1 is still a shooter and the only big difference in the combat between mass effect 1 and 2 is that 2 had you reloading your gun.

Mass Effect 1 started the VO and dialogue wheel in bioware games, and centered the game aroud Shepherd,and thats the biggest problem with DA 2.

So its the Mass Effect series, not just ME2

[NKKKK]

CONSUMIIIINGG WHAT IS rEAAAAAALLLLLLL

[17thknight]

Phazor58 wrote...

Yeah yesterday I was completely up in arms. Today I'm a little more relaxed. My main concern is still having DA:O be relevant, but I'm finding ways that the dialogue wheel could work (if they implement it correctly).

The dialogue wheel is one of the worst elements of Mass Effect, and I say that as a fan of the series. Not knowing what your character will say is terrible. Not knowing how they will react is terrible. KNowing that "Upper right = good" and "Lower right = bad" and "Left = generic and meaningless" absolutely destroys any immersion in the conversations. You simply steer the character to "paragon or renegade" as you see fit, never really knowing what Shepard is going to say, and completely disengaged from the conversations as a result.

The wheel is awful.

[zahra]

relhart wrote...

zahra wrote...



I bring the most unifying trait(s) of Dragon Age to infect this thread with calmness.

Go back to your happy place. Happy place.

That image will haunt me till the end of my days.

So glad I could make it happen for you.

[zahra]

NKKKK wrote...

CONSUMIIIINGG WHAT IS rEAAAAAALLLLLLL

Stop baiting, seriously.

[SithLordExarKun]

Drasanil wrote...

SithLordExarKun wrote...

Man srsly the whiners need to :

Considering you're whining about whiners maybe you need to:



'cause y'know that makes you a whiner too.

Yes, because asking one to shut up means im whining

And now your whining about me "whining"! Oh boy what a hypocrite!

[yummysoap]

MartinJHolm wrote...

Stop with the mindless "whining" accusations.

People have a right to voice their concerns, many of us oldtimers like fantasy games and since Bioware made a big deal about DA was the spiritual successor of BG I would say it makes sense to complain about being stuck as one character.

Also I see most of the people not wanting people to "whine" are people that have ME, so they obviously would like something like this one-dimensional garbage.

People also have the right to call you a whiner, you massive whiny whiner.

I'm only bothering to reply because of your bashing Mass Effect as one-dimensional garbage, which I just cannot fathom. Because Shepard has a voice? OMG!

Modifié par yummysoap, 12 juillet 2010 - 05:06 .

[Demx]

I think I've lived long enough.



Shepard's voice sucks!



*awaits the pummel*

[Thibbledorf26]

Davasar wrote...

Akizora wrote...

The world is changing, I feel it in the earth, I feel it in the water, I smell it in the air. Much that once was is now
forgotten; for none now live who remember it.

It began with the making of the great games: Three of Baldurs Gate and Neverwinter Nights were given to the oldschool RPG-fans, the most dedicated and loyal of all beings. Two of Knights of the Old Republic and Jade Empire were given to the new generation of RPG fans, great gamers and players of the new era. And Two were passed to the race of men, who  above all else desire power and were thus given Mass Effect.

The oldschool RPG-fans rejoiced upon the release of Dragon Age: Origins and as did all the other races.

...But they were all of them decieved for another game was made: in the halls of Bioware, in the fires of Internet Hate, the dark lord Gaider forged, in secret, a master game to control all others. And into this game he poured his cruelty, his malice, and his will to dominate all life....This game was Dragon Age 2


Had to copy this over, it was too good not to share

This post by Akizora is made of awesome.

[NKKKK]

zahra wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

CONSUMIIIINGG WHAT IS rEAAAAAALLLLLLL

Stop baiting, seriously.

Baiting, are we fishing?

[Wowlock]

Zen........

Happy thoughts * Leliana will be back *

More Happy thoughts * Leliana will be a love interest *

Super happy thoughts * Threesome will be available*

[zahra]

NKKKK wrote...

zahra wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

CONSUMIIIINGG WHAT IS rEAAAAAALLLLLLL

Stop baiting, seriously.

Baiting, are we fishing?

That would be a much more productive activity than what you are attempting to do at the current moment.

[NKKKK]

zahra wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

zahra wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

CONSUMIIIINGG WHAT IS rEAAAAAALLLLLLL

Stop baiting, seriously.

Baiting, are we fishing?

That would be a much more productive activity than what you are attempting to do at the current moment.

Your bitternes at the new game is apparent here.

[DeadInHell]

17thknight wrote...

Phazor58 wrote...

Yeah yesterday I was completely up in arms. Today I'm a little more relaxed. My main concern is still having DA:O be relevant, but I'm finding ways that the dialogue wheel could work (if they implement it correctly).

The dialogue wheel is one of the worst elements of Mass Effect, and I say that as a fan of the series. Not knowing what your character will say is terrible. Not knowing how they will react is terrible. KNowing that "Upper right = good" and "Lower right = bad" and "Left = generic and meaningless" absolutely destroys any immersion in the conversations. You simply steer the character to "paragon or renegade" as you see fit, never really knowing what Shepard is going to say, and completely disengaged from the conversations as a result.

The wheel is awful.

I'd venture to say that you're quite a minority in that view. But of course, you are entitled to it.

As for this thread. Can't we all just get along?

Why does everyone who doesn't have a problem with the game insist on turning into such children and throwing tantrums every time someone doesn't like something that they are changing?

I'm really looking forward to DA2 and I'm actually excited for many of the changes. I just don't see the point in bickering like little kids. I know it's an impossible dream, but shouldn't this forum be about discussing the game reasonably and taking advantage of the fact that we actually get to interact with the folks at Bioware and have our concerns heard?

/grandstand

[NKKKK]

@ BeLikeHan



What he said

[zahra]

NKKKK wrote...

zahra wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

zahra wrote...

NKKKK wrote...

CONSUMIIIINGG WHAT IS rEAAAAAALLLLLLL

Stop baiting, seriously.

Baiting, are we fishing?

That would be a much more productive activity than what you are attempting to do at the current moment.

Your bitternes at the new game is apparent here.

I am not "bitter". A little afraid, but less apprehensive than I was at the beginning. I will reserve my judgment until the day of release, and I certainly won't go the route of condemning something I haven't even seen yet. But I am concerned, yes. 

I don't support addressing the devs/writers in a rude fashion, or any of these "Bioware selling out" threads, but neither am I particularly impressed by the behavior of some of the DA2 defenders. You can disagree in a mature and civilized fashion, no? The best way to respond to childish and immature behavior is to lead by example; mirroring what they do is contradictory to your own purpose. 

[Riona45]

BeLikeHan wrote...
Why does everyone who doesn't have a problem with the game insist on turning into such children and throwing tantrums every time someone doesn't like something that they are changing?

Everyone does that?  Come on...

People on both sides start sniping at each other because conversations about these games get personal.  Insults get thrown, loaded terms get tossed around.  It's unfortunate but in my experience it's kind of inevitable (in fact, it wasn't too long ago that a franchise I loved changed dramatically, and I was on the side that hated the changes).

[Arrtis]

Follow the advice in my SIg.

TO defeat all when everyone can only use words.

You must learn.

The game will turn out fine they are saving the good stuff for mags adn other people to sell things to us so we may hear about it.

We will all change our minds soon enough.

[term8]

Arrtis wrote...

Follow the advice in my SIg.
TO defeat all when everyone can only use words.
You must learn.
The game will turn out fine they are saving the good stuff for mags adn other people to sell things to us so we may hear about it.
We will all change our minds soon enough.

Why would we be on an internet forum if we didn't have time to waste.... ha ha, but nice Sig, fantastically well done sir

[LPPrince]

Don't tell me this went down the tube too! Christ.



Something tells me this thread can be turned around though. Or maybe not.



I'll step out of the ring of fire now.....

[NKKKK]

LP, this thread started going downhill when someone suggested this was an anti-whiner thread, which it isn't.

[LPPrince]

NKKKK wrote...

LP, this thread started going downhill when someone suggested this was an anti-whiner thread, which it isn't.

Need my help trying to get this back to being a "Calm Down" thread?

Cause people do need to relax. At least this thread doesn't have some hardly hidden meaning behind it(STARES AT YOU).

[DeadInHell]

Riona45 wrote...

BeLikeHan wrote...
Why does everyone who doesn't have a problem with the game insist on turning into such children and throwing tantrums every time someone doesn't like something that they are changing?

Everyone does that?  Come on...

People on both sides start sniping at each other because conversations about these games get personal.  Insults get thrown, loaded terms get tossed around.  It's unfortunate but in my experience it's kind of inevitable (in fact, it wasn't too long ago that a franchise I loved changed dramatically, and I was on the side that hated the changes).

Don't tell me you've never heard of hyperbole...

Obviously not everyone. Seeing as I support the new DA2 and I wrote the post.

It's just sad that this forum has to erupt in childish hysterics (yes, on both sides) every time anything happens.