BeLikeHan wrote...
It's just sad that this forum has to erupt in childish hysterics (yes, on both sides) every time anything happens.
LPPrince wrote...
NKKKK wrote...
LP, this thread started going downhill when someone suggested this was an anti-whiner thread, which it isn't.
Need my help trying to get this back to being a "Calm Down" thread?
Cause people do need to relax. At least this thread doesn't have some hardly hidden meaning behind it(STARES AT YOU).
NKKKK wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
NKKKK wrote...
LP, this thread started going downhill when someone suggested this was an anti-whiner thread, which it isn't.
Need my help trying to get this back to being a "Calm Down" thread?
Cause people do need to relax. At least this thread doesn't have some hardly hidden meaning behind it(STARES AT YOU).
This thread was created with the purpose for people who have calmed down after initial attacks to come and share. Several things happened since then.
NKKKK wrote...
Can't argue there.
Modifié par NKKKK, 12 juillet 2010 - 06:50 .
NKKKK wrote...
Hey, maybe we should do elections or something.Cause I've only seen like two mods in the whole forum
IckyLicks wrote...
I feel a little better now since my initial reaction but I don't like the new direction these games are going in. I've never had problems with Bioware games, except for the bugs they do not fix for the consoles.
Luckily, I subscribed to the GI magazine so I'm anxious to get some real information. My only wish is for Bioware to at least change that stupid name "Hawke."
BeLikeHan wrote...
I'd venture to say that you're quite a minority in that view. But of course, you are entitled to it.17thknight wrote...
Phazor58 wrote...
Yeah yesterday I was completely up in arms. Today I'm a little more relaxed. My main concern is still having DA:O be relevant, but I'm finding ways that the dialogue wheel could work (if they implement it correctly).
The dialogue wheel is one of the worst elements of Mass Effect, and I say that as a fan of the series. Not knowing what your character will say is terrible. Not knowing how they will react is terrible. KNowing that "Upper right = good" and "Lower right = bad" and "Left = generic and meaningless" absolutely destroys any immersion in the conversations. You simply steer the character to "paragon or renegade" as you see fit, never really knowing what Shepard is going to say, and completely disengaged from the conversations as a result.
The wheel is awful.
As for this thread. Can't we all just get along?
Why does everyone who doesn't have a problem with the game insist on turning into such children and throwing tantrums every time someone doesn't like something that they are changing?
I'm really looking forward to DA2 and I'm actually excited for many of the changes. I just don't see the point in bickering like little kids. I know it's an impossible dream, but shouldn't this forum be about discussing the game reasonably and taking advantage of the fact that we actually get to interact with the folks at Bioware and have our concerns heard?
/grandstand
Nor do I. Which is why I never used any of the words you just quoted out...are you sure you meant to quote my post? Because if you read it again, you'll see I was not attacking you and was in fact wondering aloud why those who support the changes are so hostile to the negative opinions of others.17thknight wrote...
BeLikeHan wrote...
I'd venture to say that you're quite a minority in that view. But of course, you are entitled to it.17thknight wrote...
Phazor58 wrote...
Yeah yesterday I was completely up in arms. Today I'm a little more relaxed. My main concern is still having DA:O be relevant, but I'm finding ways that the dialogue wheel could work (if they implement it correctly).
The dialogue wheel is one of the worst elements of Mass Effect, and I say that as a fan of the series. Not knowing what your character will say is terrible. Not knowing how they will react is terrible. KNowing that "Upper right = good" and "Lower right = bad" and "Left = generic and meaningless" absolutely destroys any immersion in the conversations. You simply steer the character to "paragon or renegade" as you see fit, never really knowing what Shepard is going to say, and completely disengaged from the conversations as a result.
The wheel is awful.
As for this thread. Can't we all just get along?
Why does everyone who doesn't have a problem with the game insist on turning into such children and throwing tantrums every time someone doesn't like something that they are changing?
I'm really looking forward to DA2 and I'm actually excited for many of the changes. I just don't see the point in bickering like little kids. I know it's an impossible dream, but shouldn't this forum be about discussing the game reasonably and taking advantage of the fact that we actually get to interact with the folks at Bioware and have our concerns heard?
/grandstand
That our opinions don't perfectly mimic yours does not make us "unreasonable". That's pretty arrogant and actually pretty offensive.
I'M sick of listening to everyone who has a complaint be called "ignorant' "whiner" "moron" "******" "children" etc.
We have LEGITIMATE concerns based on confirmed information. One of those is the dialogue wheel, which has significant problems in ME2. There's nothing like having your character flat-out murder someone in cold blood when you only thought he was going to yell. That ruins the game immersion.
Having this opinion doesn't make us "ignorant" or "whiners".
17thknight wrote...
BeLikeHan wrote...
I'd venture to say that you're quite a minority in that view. But of course, you are entitled to it.17thknight wrote...
Phazor58 wrote...
Yeah yesterday I was completely up in arms. Today I'm a little more relaxed. My main concern is still having DA:O be relevant, but I'm finding ways that the dialogue wheel could work (if they implement it correctly).
The dialogue wheel is one of the worst elements of Mass Effect, and I say that as a fan of the series. Not knowing what your character will say is terrible. Not knowing how they will react is terrible. KNowing that "Upper right = good" and "Lower right = bad" and "Left = generic and meaningless" absolutely destroys any immersion in the conversations. You simply steer the character to "paragon or renegade" as you see fit, never really knowing what Shepard is going to say, and completely disengaged from the conversations as a result.
The wheel is awful.
As for this thread. Can't we all just get along?
Why does everyone who doesn't have a problem with the game insist on turning into such children and throwing tantrums every time someone doesn't like something that they are changing?
I'm really looking forward to DA2 and I'm actually excited for many of the changes. I just don't see the point in bickering like little kids. I know it's an impossible dream, but shouldn't this forum be about discussing the game reasonably and taking advantage of the fact that we actually get to interact with the folks at Bioware and have our concerns heard?
/grandstand
That our opinions don't perfectly mimic yours does not make us "unreasonable". That's pretty arrogant and actually pretty offensive.
I'M sick of listening to everyone who has a complaint be called "ignorant' "whiner" "moron" "******" "children" etc.
We have LEGITIMATE concerns based on confirmed information. One of those is the dialogue wheel, which has significant problems in ME2. There's nothing like having your character flat-out murder someone in cold blood when you only thought he was going to yell. That ruins the game immersion.
Having this opinion doesn't make us "ignorant" or "whiners".
BeLikeHan wrote...
Nor do I. Which is why I never used any of the words you just quoted out...are you sure you meant to quote my post? Because if you read it again, you'll see I was not attacking you and was in fact wondering aloud why those who support the changes are so hostile to the negative opinions of others.17thknight wrote...
BeLikeHan wrote...
I'd venture to say that you're quite a minority in that view. But of course, you are entitled to it.17thknight wrote...
Phazor58 wrote...
Yeah yesterday I was completely up in arms. Today I'm a little more relaxed. My main concern is still having DA:O be relevant, but I'm finding ways that the dialogue wheel could work (if they implement it correctly).
The dialogue wheel is one of the worst elements of Mass Effect, and I say that as a fan of the series. Not knowing what your character will say is terrible. Not knowing how they will react is terrible. KNowing that "Upper right = good" and "Lower right = bad" and "Left = generic and meaningless" absolutely destroys any immersion in the conversations. You simply steer the character to "paragon or renegade" as you see fit, never really knowing what Shepard is going to say, and completely disengaged from the conversations as a result.
The wheel is awful.
As for this thread. Can't we all just get along?
Why does everyone who doesn't have a problem with the game insist on turning into such children and throwing tantrums every time someone doesn't like something that they are changing?
I'm really looking forward to DA2 and I'm actually excited for many of the changes. I just don't see the point in bickering like little kids. I know it's an impossible dream, but shouldn't this forum be about discussing the game reasonably and taking advantage of the fact that we actually get to interact with the folks at Bioware and have our concerns heard?
/grandstand
That our opinions don't perfectly mimic yours does not make us "unreasonable". That's pretty arrogant and actually pretty offensive.
I'M sick of listening to everyone who has a complaint be called "ignorant' "whiner" "moron" "******" "children" etc.
We have LEGITIMATE concerns based on confirmed information. One of those is the dialogue wheel, which has significant problems in ME2. There's nothing like having your character flat-out murder someone in cold blood when you only thought he was going to yell. That ruins the game immersion.
Having this opinion doesn't make us "ignorant" or "whiners".
Despite being taken aback at first, I like what I've heard about DA2 so far, but have found the attacks on those who don't pretty childish. Though, if this is the way you respond to all attempts at beckoning reasoned discussion I can certainly understand their inclination...
BeLikeHan wrote...
Nor do I. Which is why I never used any of the words you just quoted out...are you sure you meant to quote my post? Because if you read it again, you'll see I was not attacking you and was in fact wondering aloud why those who support the changes are so hostile to the negative opinions of others.
...
LPPrince wrote...
Hawke comes from the same inspirations and time periods as the real names found in DAO, so I don't see the problem with it.
Well when you quote a post directly and use language like "you" and "yours" it does give a certain kind of impression.17thknight wrote...
BeLikeHan wrote...
Nor do I. Which is why I never used any of the words you just quoted out...are you sure you meant to quote my post? Because if you read it again, you'll see I was not attacking you and was in fact wondering aloud why those who support the changes are so hostile to the negative opinions of others.
...
Yeah, and if you'll read MY post, you'll note that I never said that YOU had said any of those things. It's pretty expliciltly clear that I meant I am sick of EVERYONE saying those sorts of vile little insults.
Quit whining.17thknight wrote...
BeLikeHan wrote...
Nor do I. Which is why I never used any of the words you just quoted out...are you sure you meant to quote my post? Because if you read it again, you'll see I was not attacking you and was in fact wondering aloud why those who support the changes are so hostile to the negative opinions of others.
...
Yeah, and if you'll read MY post, you'll note that I never said that YOU had said any of those things. It's pretty expliciltly clear that I meant I am sick of EVERYONE saying those sorts of vile little insults.
That's fair.zahra wrote...
BeLikeHan wrote...
Nor do I. Which is why I never used any of the words you just quoted out...are you sure you meant to quote my post? Because if you read it again, you'll see I was not attacking you and was in fact wondering aloud why those who support the changes are so hostile to the negative opinions of others.17thknight wrote...
BeLikeHan wrote...
I'd venture to say that you're quite a minority in that view. But of course, you are entitled to it.17thknight wrote...
Phazor58 wrote...
Yeah yesterday I was completely up in arms. Today I'm a little more relaxed. My main concern is still having DA:O be relevant, but I'm finding ways that the dialogue wheel could work (if they implement it correctly).
The dialogue wheel is one of the worst elements of Mass Effect, and I say that as a fan of the series. Not knowing what your character will say is terrible. Not knowing how they will react is terrible. KNowing that "Upper right = good" and "Lower right = bad" and "Left = generic and meaningless" absolutely destroys any immersion in the conversations. You simply steer the character to "paragon or renegade" as you see fit, never really knowing what Shepard is going to say, and completely disengaged from the conversations as a result.
The wheel is awful.
As for this thread. Can't we all just get along?
Why does everyone who doesn't have a problem with the game insist on turning into such children and throwing tantrums every time someone doesn't like something that they are changing?
I'm really looking forward to DA2 and I'm actually excited for many of the changes. I just don't see the point in bickering like little kids. I know it's an impossible dream, but shouldn't this forum be about discussing the game reasonably and taking advantage of the fact that we actually get to interact with the folks at Bioware and have our concerns heard?
/grandstand
That our opinions don't perfectly mimic yours does not make us "unreasonable". That's pretty arrogant and actually pretty offensive.
I'M sick of listening to everyone who has a complaint be called "ignorant' "whiner" "moron" "******" "children" etc.
We have LEGITIMATE concerns based on confirmed information. One of those is the dialogue wheel, which has significant problems in ME2. There's nothing like having your character flat-out murder someone in cold blood when you only thought he was going to yell. That ruins the game immersion.
Having this opinion doesn't make us "ignorant" or "whiners".
Despite being taken aback at first, I like what I've heard about DA2 so far, but have found the attacks on those who don't pretty childish. Though, if this is the way you respond to all attempts at beckoning reasoned discussion I can certainly understand their inclination...
I believe there are faults on both sides and the best way is to infect the forum with a lot of calm and reasonable posts.
Riona45 wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
Hawke comes from the same inspirations and time periods as the real names found in DAO, so I don't see the problem with it.
Neither do I--in fact, I like it. I am fond of "Mike Hawke," though.
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17thknight wrote...
Yeah, and if you'll read MY post, you'll note that I never said that YOU had said any of those things. It's pretty expliciltly clear that I meant I am sick of EVERYONE saying those sorts of vile little insults.
boojumsnark89 wrote...
As one of those who's been calm about this from the beginning... I'm just gonna say "it's going to be okay". Seriously.
But then again, I love ME as much as DA - so apparently I'm one of the bad guys here. Uh oh.
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