LPPrince wrote...
Glad I helped with that.
I like "York Hawke" too.
LPPrince wrote...
Glad I helped with that.
BeLikeHan wrote...
Well when you quote a post directly and use language like "you" and "yours" it does give a certain kind of impression.
Riona45 wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
Glad I helped with that.
I like "York Hawke" too.
BeLikeHan wrote...
That's fair.zahra wrote...
BeLikeHan wrote...
Nor do I. Which is why I never used any of the words you just quoted out...are you sure you meant to quote my post? Because if you read it again, you'll see I was not attacking you and was in fact wondering aloud why those who support the changes are so hostile to the negative opinions of others.17thknight wrote...
BeLikeHan wrote...
I'd venture to say that you're quite a minority in that view. But of course, you are entitled to it.17thknight wrote...
Phazor58 wrote...
Yeah yesterday I was completely up in arms. Today I'm a little more relaxed. My main concern is still having DA:O be relevant, but I'm finding ways that the dialogue wheel could work (if they implement it correctly).
The dialogue wheel is one of the worst elements of Mass Effect, and I say that as a fan of the series. Not knowing what your character will say is terrible. Not knowing how they will react is terrible. KNowing that "Upper right = good" and "Lower right = bad" and "Left = generic and meaningless" absolutely destroys any immersion in the conversations. You simply steer the character to "paragon or renegade" as you see fit, never really knowing what Shepard is going to say, and completely disengaged from the conversations as a result.
The wheel is awful.
As for this thread. Can't we all just get along?
Why does everyone who doesn't have a problem with the game insist on turning into such children and throwing tantrums every time someone doesn't like something that they are changing?
I'm really looking forward to DA2 and I'm actually excited for many of the changes. I just don't see the point in bickering like little kids. I know it's an impossible dream, but shouldn't this forum be about discussing the game reasonably and taking advantage of the fact that we actually get to interact with the folks at Bioware and have our concerns heard?
/grandstand
That our opinions don't perfectly mimic yours does not make us "unreasonable". That's pretty arrogant and actually pretty offensive.
I'M sick of listening to everyone who has a complaint be called "ignorant' "whiner" "moron" "******" "children" etc.
We have LEGITIMATE concerns based on confirmed information. One of those is the dialogue wheel, which has significant problems in ME2. There's nothing like having your character flat-out murder someone in cold blood when you only thought he was going to yell. That ruins the game immersion.
Having this opinion doesn't make us "ignorant" or "whiners".
Despite being taken aback at first, I like what I've heard about DA2 so far, but have found the attacks on those who don't pretty childish. Though, if this is the way you respond to all attempts at beckoning reasoned discussion I can certainly understand their inclination...
I believe there are faults on both sides and the best way is to infect the forum with a lot of calm and reasonable posts.
There are certainly unreasonable people on both sides. I just think that the outrage on the side of those who see a problem with the game is at least coming from somewhere. I don't see the point in meeting their outrage at the changes with even more outrage.
But you're right. As a wise man once said, "It took everyone working together to screw this one up." It's just best not to give in to the impulses to join in, eh.

LPPrince wrote...
Well, that wasn't me. But I take all the credit in the World for Mike Hawke.
LPPrince wrote...
GOOD GOD WHY DID I STEP INTO THIS THREAD!?
Riona45 wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
Well, that wasn't me. But I take all the credit in the World for Mike Hawke.
*applauds*
You deserve a medal.
zahra wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
GOOD GOD WHY DID I STEP INTO THIS THREAD!?
Hey, I DID give a warning.
*cackles evilly*
LPPrince wrote...
zahra wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
GOOD GOD WHY DID I STEP INTO THIS THREAD!?
Hey, I DID give a warning.
*cackles evilly*
The picture's FRIGGEN HUGE.
zahra wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
zahra wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
GOOD GOD WHY DID I STEP INTO THIS THREAD!?
Hey, I DID give a warning.
*cackles evilly*
The picture's FRIGGEN HUGE.
A small JPEG would not be able to contain his greatness.
tennyochan wrote...
ah god. enchantment >.<
zahra wrote...
tennyochan wrote...
ah god. enchantment >.<
Enchantment!
LPPrince wrote...
zahra wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
zahra wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
GOOD GOD WHY DID I STEP INTO THIS THREAD!?
Hey, I DID give a warning.
*cackles evilly*
The picture's FRIGGEN HUGE.
A small JPEG would not be able to contain his greatness.
Never. Post. That. Again. For. The. Love. Of. Every. God. Known. To. Man.
zahra wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
zahra wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
zahra wrote...
LPPrince wrote...
GOOD GOD WHY DID I STEP INTO THIS THREAD!?
Hey, I DID give a warning.
*cackles evilly*
The picture's FRIGGEN HUGE.
A small JPEG would not be able to contain his greatness.
Never. Post. That. Again. For. The. Love. Of. Every. God. Known. To. Man.
Shall I link you to the mod that created theabominationgreatest ever picture on the internets?
*looks very shady and wicked*
Honestly some of the mods are just... erk. I just came across a mod that promoted incest and mass orgies. THIS IS WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR TALENT??? Make me ninja outfits dammit. Not some manifestation of the deepest darkest corner of your filthy minds. Ugggh.
It's a fairly specific term, actually. But hey, at least you cleared all this up for me. Now I know exactly why this place so rife with bickering...17thknight wrote...
BeLikeHan wrote...
Well when you quote a post directly and use language like "you" and "yours" it does give a certain kind of impression.
You is a generic term that can refer to a single individual or a group of people. It's exceedingly obvious I wasn't directly speaking to you considering...you know...you didn't actually say those things.
Agreed again. And...oh my.zahra wrote...
BeLikeHan wrote...
That's fair.zahra wrote...
BeLikeHan wrote...
Nor do I. Which is why I never used any of the words you just quoted out...are you sure you meant to quote my post? Because if you read it again, you'll see I was not attacking you and was in fact wondering aloud why those who support the changes are so hostile to the negative opinions of others.17thknight wrote...
BeLikeHan wrote...
I'd venture to say that you're quite a minority in that view. But of course, you are entitled to it.17thknight wrote...
Phazor58 wrote...
Yeah yesterday I was completely up in arms. Today I'm a little more relaxed. My main concern is still having DA:O be relevant, but I'm finding ways that the dialogue wheel could work (if they implement it correctly).
The dialogue wheel is one of the worst elements of Mass Effect, and I say that as a fan of the series. Not knowing what your character will say is terrible. Not knowing how they will react is terrible. KNowing that "Upper right = good" and "Lower right = bad" and "Left = generic and meaningless" absolutely destroys any immersion in the conversations. You simply steer the character to "paragon or renegade" as you see fit, never really knowing what Shepard is going to say, and completely disengaged from the conversations as a result.
The wheel is awful.
As for this thread. Can't we all just get along?
Why does everyone who doesn't have a problem with the game insist on turning into such children and throwing tantrums every time someone doesn't like something that they are changing?
I'm really looking forward to DA2 and I'm actually excited for many of the changes. I just don't see the point in bickering like little kids. I know it's an impossible dream, but shouldn't this forum be about discussing the game reasonably and taking advantage of the fact that we actually get to interact with the folks at Bioware and have our concerns heard?
/grandstand
That our opinions don't perfectly mimic yours does not make us "unreasonable". That's pretty arrogant and actually pretty offensive.
I'M sick of listening to everyone who has a complaint be called "ignorant' "whiner" "moron" "******" "children" etc.
We have LEGITIMATE concerns based on confirmed information. One of those is the dialogue wheel, which has significant problems in ME2. There's nothing like having your character flat-out murder someone in cold blood when you only thought he was going to yell. That ruins the game immersion.
Having this opinion doesn't make us "ignorant" or "whiners".
Despite being taken aback at first, I like what I've heard about DA2 so far, but have found the attacks on those who don't pretty childish. Though, if this is the way you respond to all attempts at beckoning reasoned discussion I can certainly understand their inclination...
I believe there are faults on both sides and the best way is to infect the forum with a lot of calm and reasonable posts.
There are certainly unreasonable people on both sides. I just think that the outrage on the side of those who see a problem with the game is at least coming from somewhere. I don't see the point in meeting their outrage at the changes with even more outrage.
But you're right. As a wise man once said, "It took everyone working together to screw this one up." It's just best not to give in to the impulses to join in, eh.
Whenever that impulse rises up inside me I switch to another web page, or just look out the window. Helps tremendously with keeping things in perspective.The funny thing is that no one person is wrong here, it is natural to voice your fears when unexpected changes happen, and it is also natural to defend something that you are fond of. The only "wrong" thing here is devaluing the opinion of either side.
I think a long thread about Sandal is in order.
Do you know that this is the second image that pops up if you google Sandal Dragon Age??
Warning: Do not scroll down unless you are willing to see something you cannot unsee.
Sometimes DA Modders are really.... woah.
SirOccam wrote...
Man, I came to this thread to calm down, but now I'm all hot and bothered by that picture.
NO THAT JUST MAKES IT WORSE!!!LPPrince wrote...
SirOccam wrote...
Man, I came to this thread to calm down, but now I'm all hot and bothered by that picture.
RAZOR! LOOK AWAY! THINK OF SOMETHING DISGUSTING!
MARGARET THATCHER NAKED ON A COLD DAY! MARGARET THATCHER NAKED ON A COLD DAY!
SirOccam wrote...
NO THAT JUST MAKES IT WORSE!!!LPPrince wrote...
SirOccam wrote...
Man, I came to this thread to calm down, but now I'm all hot and bothered by that picture.
RAZOR! LOOK AWAY! THINK OF SOMETHING DISGUSTING!
MARGARET THATCHER NAKED ON A COLD DAY! MARGARET THATCHER NAKED ON A COLD DAY!