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[a_tucker]

i bought dragon age origins for pc a few weeks ago when my xbox broke and ive been unable to get dragon age working, some ****** on another site told me i had to uninstall my video drive in order to get another but now my computer wont even give me a chance because the resolution is to low for me to see the whole download page for sites that would work, is there any chance i can get it working and if so could i get it in plain and simple english not computer talk cause i just wanna play the damn game

[Loerwyn]

The "******" was correct in a way, although he gave you only half of the truth from what you told us. What you should really have done beforehand is downloaded the latest version first, and where you get that from depends on what card you have (you didn't mention it so I can't name a place).

You have maybe 2-3 options to rectify this issue:
1. Is there another computer you could use to download the file, perhaps one belonging to a friend or relative? You'd just have to put the file onto a memory stick or something similar.
2. Buy a gaming magazine with a DVD in it, as they often have the latest, or near-latest graphics drivers on them, although it tends to just be for ATi or nVidia cards.
3. You can still use websites at a small resolution. You can use the mouse wheel as a button (or use the scroll bars as your browser should auto-adjust to your resolution) and move around the webpage to locate the download link. It requires a little patience, but it's not that hard to do and it's worth trying if it can get things back to normal.

[Gorath Alpha]

You probably also needed to remind the OP about the System Requirements, because even with the latest drivers, an FX 5200 or one of its brothers isn't going to work {nor an Intel video chip, but we are (we had been, based on the OP information at first)  thinking's it may be an ATI}, but we really didn't know. 

It very well could have been an X300 / X1050 / 9550 -- all of which are the same, and none of which can be used. 

P. S. I'm editing this a day later.  We now know that an Intel video chip is all that is available, so that drivers for it are meaningless in the context of this forum and this game. 

AFAIK, only the very latest of the Intel bad excuses for video offer some (limited) access to the Dragon Age game.  Just as all of the ATI and nVIDIA onboard video chips are too slow, that includes the very fastest of the Intel devices, none of which are as fast as the best ATI onboard chips, and the comparison with the nVIDIA video chips still falls short because of the limited number of shader units by comparison. 

There have been i3s and i5s from Intel with a somewhat modified "IGP" chip that is riding inside the packaging with the cores.  Because of the directness of connection between the (non-integrated) video chip to the cores, it picks up more speed.  In my personal definition of the word "run" for game play, slow animations don't count, & neither a standard Intel IGP, nor these latest products they have now can meet my standards. 

However, each person out there in gaming land has his / her own unique sensorium, and forms his own opinion about what level of slowness he can accept, so some people are bound to think that those i3s / i5s with video in them are sufficient to their needs. 
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Gorath
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Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 12 juillet 2010 - 01:20 .

[a_tucker]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

The "******" was correct in a way, although he gave you only half of the truth from what you told us. What you should really have done beforehand is downloaded the latest version first, and where you get that from depends on what card you have (you didn't mention it so I can't name a place).

You have maybe 2-3 options to rectify this issue:
1. Is there another computer you could use to download the file, perhaps one belonging to a friend or relative? You'd just have to put the file onto a memory stick or something similar.
2. Buy a gaming magazine with a DVD in it, as they often have the latest, or near-latest graphics drivers on them, although it tends to just be for ATi or nVidia cards.
3. You can still use websites at a small resolution. You can use the mouse wheel as a button (or use the scroll bars as your browser should auto-adjust to your resolution) and move around the webpage to locate the download link. It requires a little patience, but it's not that hard to do and it's worth trying if it can get things back to normal.

none of these are really an option for me though
i have a: Intel® 82865G Graphics Controller

[Loerwyn]

Why are they not an option, a_tucker? Do you not know anyone else with an internet enabled computer?

[PSUHammer]

Gees...just right click anywhere on your desktop, go to properties and change your resolution back to something larger (your monitor's default). Then go download the driver.



Problem solved.

[Gorath Alpha]

You missed the key element.  That system failed the System Requirements minimums by a couple of miles.  Not even the very best and fastest Intel tinker toy video chip is good enough for proper game play, no matter what drivers are involved. 

Modifié par Gorath Alpha, 11 juillet 2010 - 04:27 .

[PSUHammer]

But that would at least get his desktop resolution back to something respectable and allow him to see the browser links.

[Gorath Alpha]

In the sense that this is a forum for GAME problems, and not for introductory learning of basic computer operations subjects, the inability of the computer to run the game effectively meant go get a different computer to use, then visit here once again.  However, there's almost nothing else happening, and there hasn't been any moderation for much of anything in here for months, so if we are off topic now, it is somewhat cruel to stop short, I suppose, whatever might be the technical situation. 

[PSUHammer]

Yes...having been a Tech Moderator on another developer's board for over 10 years, most tech support requests devolve into basic PC troubleshooting. It's why I stopped doing it. Free PC support isn't worth my time when I could just be playing with my kid. LOL!

[a_tucker]

ok i got my computer back to the way it was before i deleted the video driver but the driver still isnt good enough and whenever i go to ATI or nvidia something goes wrong with the download for nvidia it says my computer cant support nvidia and when i do ATI my com says the download finished with errors but nothing changes at all

[PSUHammer]

Thats because you dont have either one of those graphic cards. My recommendation for you is to not play games on the PC. You obviously have a learning curve there and would need to spend cash to upgrade. Just buy a new Xbox or PS3 (or get one on eBay). And be done with it.

[Loerwyn]

If he's on a PC, the OP'd be able to install a dedicated card and play the game, assuming the rest of the hardware is up to scratch.

[PSUHammer]

OnlyShallow89 wrote...

If he's on a PC, the OP'd be able to install a dedicated card and play the game, assuming the rest of the hardware is up to scratch.

I know, but I am factoring my advice on:

• He knows very little about PC's and would need to educate himself on drivers, patches, software installation, hardware components, etc., to be functional.
• He would need to buy a gaming card which, most likely, would be PCI-E.  A lot of basic PC's that have onboard video lack PCI-E slots.  SO, he would have to investigate that.
• Even if he were to get a graphics card, his processor and/or RAM could be a bottleneck in his system and I bet the OS is sadly out of date.
• He is familiar with Xbox and probably has games for it already.  Buying a new or used one can be had for $99 or the price of a decent graphics card and he won't have to worry about keeping it up to date.

Some people just shouldn't dive right into PC gaming without basic computer skills.

I know I don't have the time to teach an A+ course for free, do you? 

Modifié par Hammer6767, 11 juillet 2010 - 05:55 .

[a_tucker]

actually the only reaon i bought dragon age for pc is because im waiting for my xbox to be repaired and if there is any possible way for me short of buying a new computer id like to know and everybody i know that had internet has something other than windows xp so does that matter or not?

[Loerwyn]

a_tucker wrote...

actually the only reaon i bought dragon age for pc is because im waiting for my xbox to be repaired and if there is any possible way for me short of buying a new computer id like to know and everybody i know that had internet has something other than windows xp so does that matter or not?

No, I don't see why it'd matter. Either way, if what Gorath Alpha says is correct, you'll be unable to play Dragon Age regardless of if you sort your drivers out or not.

But you still should sort them out.

[PSUHammer]

It's correct that you won't be able to play without a new graphics card. You are looking to spend, at least, $100+ on one.

[Gorath Alpha]

My standard answer here is to ask for a few criteria from the OP, such as his budget, since many of the potential upgrades would have to include power supply upgrades as well.  Next, I want to know the screen resolution that is planned on, which is the most performance-related of all video items.  Only last do I care to know how high of a quality imaging is desired. 

It is entirely possible to get through the period between now and the repair / return of the console for as little as $60 by finding the appropriate sale or rebate deal.  An HD 4650 is usually available in the online market for that kind of cost here in the states and Canada.  Newegg frequently has more than one such deal, so you can skip past the least expensive option (Powercolor, which I don't recommend). 

Gorath
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