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#51
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I have them set on Sten at hp=75% because he goes down so fast. I have killed Morrigan 8 different times but when I am finished, I'm getting beat up on by the other three doppelgangers and all my crew is gone. I've tried using Wynne, Leilani, and the Dog. I can't get past this damn point no matter how easy everybody says it is. And I'm in easy mode.

#52
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Have you tried setting the difficulty to Easy?



Misc things that may help:

- Equip resist gear on your party (if its magic taking you down)

- Set your tactics so all of your party are fighting the same person (Enemy -> Ally Attacking -> Main Character)



The way to use the traps is to lock your party in place far back, set the traps halfway to the room, then get the enemies attention and lead them back over the traps. You're hoping to catch some of the melee in the traps and hold them down, while just 1 or 2 make it past. Kill those that make it past the traps, and continue to the rest.

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uuufffttaa wrote...

Kewl, Morrigan has Winter's Grasp, Drain Life, disorient, Vulnerability Hex, Spider Shape, Horror, Mind Blast, Lightning, Frost Weapons, Herbalism, Bear Shape, Flying Swarm, Curse of Mortality, Affliction Hex. Alistar has Shield Pummel, Cleanse Area, Threaten, Precise Striking, Pommel Strike, Sunder Arms, Indomitable, Mighty Blow, Powerful Swings, Sunder Armor, Holy Smite. Sten has Two handed sweep, Perfect Striking, Sunder Arms, Powerful Swings, Threaten, Taunt, Critical Strike, Disengage, and Sunder Armor. PC only has Momentum, Riposte, Feign Death, Poison, Herbalism, Traps, and Stealth. Exactly what do you mean a 2Her and shield/sword tank?


well you kind of answered your own question.  They're exploiting your weakness so exploit theirs.  Sten is a glass cannon.  Kill him first.  Enter the room and hit Morrigan with a holy smite.  Draw them out to the hallway and gang up on Sten.  Lay two traps so they take moderate damage to make it to you.  Don't attack with anyone accept Morrigan.  Let her get hit once and then use mind blast.  Have her transform into a flying swarm so she has aggro but they can only drain her mana.  Pop a lesser health potion on her before she transforms so she doesn't die from the next one or two hits they'll be able to get on her.  Have Allistair use sunder armor and Sten use sunder arms on Sten.  He'll probably die after that.  Immediately have your PC use dirty fighting then riposte on your PC while Sten and Alliistair are doing that because he's going to try and do that to sten or allistar and that would be detrimental.  As soon as Sten is down have Sten use mighty blow on your PC and have Allistair start tanking Allistair.  At this point Morrigan will be back to her own form with no mana.  Immediately down a mana pot and have her help your PC and Sten take out Morrigan.  Vulnerabiliy hex, winter's grasp, drain life.  This will be enough initial damage so that sten and your PC take out Morrigan with incredible ease.  Now shapeshift morrigan into a bear and have her attack Allistair.

This fight shouldn't be that hard if you micromanage.  You have the benefit of telling your party members to attack based on what you know about your party.  Meanwhile your enemy is going to attack anyone with the highest aggro rating.  It seems like that's Sten for you so have him use disengage and Morrigan start the attack and switch into flying swarm to make that not happen.  And use their own strategy against them.  

#54
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Thanks, At least you have given me some hope and an idea of how to accomplish this task. I couldn't put this down when I first started. This is my first RPG and it's definitely different from a FPS. So I appreciate all the help.

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uuufffttaa wrote...

I think I have tried every ****ing option available to my God Damned ass. I've of a mind to find out where the **** Bioware is headquartered and go and kick every one of them in the ass many many many times.


-Bring up the "Console" by hitting the ~ key on your keyboard
-Type 'god' followed by enter
-Hit esc to put the console away
-Kill clones
-Hit ~ to bring up the console again
-Type 'god' again followed by enter
-Hit esc again.
-Continue normal play.

#56
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My game does not allow me to use the tilde key.

#57
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These ogod odamn oson oa o****es at Bioware owe me 50 dollars for this piece of **** game I bought. It has gotten to the point where I can't do anything and I can't fix the cheat codes to get by them. How ogod odamn stupid can those omother o****ers be.

#58
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Kiss my ass Bioware

#59
TastyLaksa

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Troll forums are that way ---->

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SeanMurphy2

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I understand you are frustrated being stuck on the same fight for a week. I have done this fight once. And found it very hard. I can't remember how I finally beat it.

Are you sure you can't tackle another area first and then come back later?

What if you tackle it solo. Would it be easier if you are fighting just yourself?

Modifié par SeanMurphy2, 14 décembre 2009 - 09:00 .


#61
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I am trying to follow a walkthrough. I got through the Circle of Magi and the walkthrough said this was the next easiest part. Duh, I do have it set to Easy.

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Popemaster123

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I ahve never lost a fight with them.NEVER.They arent that hard they are still the same people u bring with you.

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They also don't use their Powers/abilities Like You. It's more Random. Use your powers, even ones that you don't customarily use.

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tranj84cl

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uuufffttaa wrote...

I am trying to follow a walkthrough.


Well, you can believe me or the walkthrough.  Go do Brecilian Forest, maybe Orzammar, then come back.

Many walkthroughs are wrong.

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wow, those fights have been very easy on all 3 of my playthrus. I was actually hoping they would be more challenging (the BG2 version is definately more challenging)



last game I had dog sick on wynn. His overwhelm makes short work of casters.



Then took out myself as myself always does the most dps. But it's easy to take out yourself with yourself.



If you max your character out, this should pose no problem. By max I mean powergame.

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That is the one fight none can tell you tactics because none knows your exact weak spots as well as you should. Just use that knowledge.

Personally I wouldnt mind if they made it even more challenging than it is.


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tranj84cl wrote...

uuufffttaa wrote...

I am trying to follow a walkthrough.


Well, you can believe me or the walkthrough.  Go do Brecilian Forest, maybe Orzammar, then come back.

Many walkthroughs are wrong.


I tend to do it in this order after Loathing:  Tower, Forest, (DLC if you have them), Redcliff, Part of Orzammar, than the Urn.  Between diffrent parts I'm running from Dem and other side quest.

What the person hasn't told us is what level is he doing this.  Areas do scale to your level, but some times that makes them harder at lower levels cause you don't have the damage you can do at upper levels.  I only had problems on my first play through with my mage, now on my 5th playthrough I blow through this like nothing playing on Normal on PC.

Also the golden rule when you come to a hard part....go do anouther area and return when you level up some more or get better gear.  I with my last play through with my Dwarven Warrior and this one with my Delish Rogue I been playing with no healer/mages.  I make alot of potions before I leave, but finding I'm not useing them as much....well Alister tends to alot cause he's my tank.